Grumpy Owl Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, amy G said: Is it not on/near the bottom of a 66.6 degree tilted sphere? Well, I guess it depends on what perspective you look at the 'globe'. Which way is 'up'? Which way is down? From @peter's perspective, he might be wondering why us folks in the northern hemisphere aren't falling off into space, or why our planes don't land upside down here. Can I just ask if you've ever travelled by plane yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: Well, I guess it depends on what perspective you look at the 'globe'. Which way is 'up'? Which way is down? From @peter's perspective, he might be wondering why us folks in the northern hemisphere aren't falling off into space, or why our planes don't land upside down here. Can I just ask if you've ever travelled by plane yourself? Please, I get that, take the point from anywhere on Earth from the perspective of space. Planes and large cruise ships should be visible to the satellites in low earth orbit armed with nasa cameras based on the detailed images I am able to capture of the "bottom point" of the Moon. And what a day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 54 minutes ago, amy G said: All the reasons listed, but especially how brilliantly I can capture minute details of an object that is supposedly 240,000 miles away while the satellites in low earth orbit as depicted by cartoons in @serpentine's thread and the space shuttle/iss which are only a few hundred miles from the earth's surface cannot do the same. Astronomers got over the excitement of realising the shape and diameter of the Earth a while ago and monitoring space debris is a mundane affair that may involve the military so pictures are not of primary importance. The size, speed, trajectory and destination of the object is. A sophisticated space radar system might be desirable for future Moonshots/Marshots/spacestation's but with objects whizzing along at several miles per second it would have to be linked to automatic rocket firing to be meaningful in the saving lives department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 hours ago, amy G said: For further reference, consider we are told we can watch the ISS, which is similar in size to larger commercial aircraft, flying about at over 17,000 mph. At the end of the day, not only should we be seeing incredible video of planes landing upside down in Australia, we should be watching live video of planes and cruise ships moving in all kinds of crazy directions all around our flying, spinning sphere. I hope that made sense. lets be blunt here , what fucking shit , if you can't see what is fundamentally wrong with that pic you need watching . The fact that you posted it speaks volumes and yes it dose make a lot of sense (to idiots) and to your motives,a few numbers in the form of measurements in no way increases the legitimacy of this crap. Extra marks though for something new (however stupid) instead of the same old tired shit over and over and over again 5 hours ago, amy G said: I am sorry for you that you are sick of it, but facts are facts and I will not stop with my camera until the mods decide that they do not want original research on this forum. I hope you understand Facts are facts (in your eyes not mine) , personally I got it the first time I don't have to be told the same shit again and again, come up with something new for christ sake. You call it research, in my book that is a rather liberal use of the term I think I will take a picture of the pile of wood I cut yesterday with my new chain saw and put that up as to why the earth is a sphere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: Well, I guess it depends on what perspective you look at the 'globe'. Which way is 'up'? Which way is down? From @peter's perspective, he might be wondering why us folks in the northern hemisphere aren't falling off into space, or why our planes don't land upside down here. Can I just ask if you've ever travelled by plane yourself? No I have never wondered that ,Mr Malcontent , please credit me with what little brains I do have Edited October 20, 2020 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 9 hours ago, amy G said: another curve bending telescopic camera or..... is ... it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 9:15 PM, Basket Case said: Globe-alists - as in - not FE believers. If 'FE-believers' then it MUST also be 'Globe-believers', thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said: If 'FE-believers' then it MUST also be 'Globe-believers', thank you. That's just playing with words. I was trying to explain the use of the word Globalist on this thread as opposed to the general meaning of the word. Flat Earther - Baller... etc. Just words to explain a person's position. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, zArk said: another curve bending telescopic camera or..... is ... it? We have been camping down here for awhile and have yet to find anywhere where the water is curving around a sphere anywhere near the 8 inches per mile squared that is demanded by the heliocentric cult. I can find boat after boat, day after day that are clearly not visible to observers on the beach, yet are right there for all to see, right on top of the water, and miles beyond where the geometric horizon must exist if we were flying through space on this incredible ride. And here is another beautiful sunrise that wonderfully illustrates how objects appear to get larger as they move nearer to the observer... perspective strikes again! Edited October 21, 2020 by amy G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, amy G said: We have been camping down here for awhile and have yet to find anywhere where the water is curving around a sphere anywhere near the 8 inches per mile squared that is demanded by the heliocentric cult. I can find boat after boat, day after day that are clearly not visible to observers on the beach, yet are right there for all to see, right on top of the water, and miles beyond where the geometric horizon must exist if we were flying through space on this incredible ride. And here is another beautiful sunrise that wonderfully illustrates how objects appear to get larger as they move nearer to the observer... perspective strikes again! https://youtu.be/mEX6VdRSPzg its all very very straight forward and simple but i am sure i will be lectured on how complicated it all is with a blackboard and lots and lots of numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Basket Case said: That's just playing with words. I was trying to explain the use of the word Globalist on this thread as opposed to the general meaning of the word. Flat Earther - Baller... etc. Just words to explain a person's position. BC er.... yeah. My point being some epithets are clearly derogatory on either side and we should be civil and avoid such usages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said: er.... yeah. My point being some epithets are clearly derogatory on either side and we should be civil and avoid such usages. Forum rules apply even when some members are behaving deviously in a persistent fashion to the detriment of the forum. Flat isn't a shape it's a quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, serpentine said: Forum rules apply even when some members are behaving deviously in a persistent fashion to the detriment of the forum. Flat isn't a shape it's a quality. um.... I don't know what you mean or allude to with that first sentence. And yes I would agree that flat is a quality, but what does that have to do with the price of cat food? Edited October 21, 2020 by Nobby Noboddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 God calls the earth a circle and not a ball, as the words 'circle' and 'ball 'are both mentioned in the Bible, their Hebrew translation and meanings are different. Isaiah 40:22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, alexa said: God calls the earth a circle and not a ball, as the words 'circle' and 'ball 'are both mentioned in the Bible, their Hebrew translation and meanings are different. Isaiah 40:22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. I'm still happy I'm on a relatively level (or flat) earth and for a while I became interested in the whole biblical verification stuff (I have studied many and varied religions before now except christianity which i was bought up with -in the usual watery way), I did my usual thing of finding as many old sources, commentaries and possible verifications, including a 600 page book refuting the 'higher critics'. I started reading the bible (KJV - a fecking masonic copy of my grandfathers!) and because I research on average three or four threads at a time (currently - history of vaccines, Antoine Bechamp,chabad lubavitch, anything Tavistock related, and when I can FE) it is not uncommon for me to find links and crossovers in the subjects. I would be happy to point to some of my sources. My current feelings are that whatever we have in religious texts, bible included has been messed with. I could see that for myself in the old testament, wow that's a f*cked up book. Not to totally dismiss the possibility that fragments of truth can be found in places, I don't think we're equipped to discern. I now know the contents of a book I heard about decades ago but have never been able to track down - 'Everything you know is a lie'. History, Science, Religion, you name it. F*cking lies. My home is flat and stationery, that's ALL I know, everything else is at best a guess or wishful thinking. Sorry for the rant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Is that you Mr G (youtube On the level with 6 subscribers) if it is no wonder you won't let this go,as I have said before people with a vested interest etc etc Sorry to burst your bubble but I have irrefutable evidence of a globe earth Now if you click on the picture and zoom in you will definitely see problems concerning your FE theory. If you look at the ends of the logs you will see rather large cracks appearing and if you look at it logically, that indicates the cracks we see in your FE theory, I have thought about this for a long time and that is the only conclusion that is scientifically possible, and yes the logs at the bottom are upside down and the logs at the top are moving out of frame (horizon) more proof the earth is a globe I know less pictures please and come up with a working model, oh but wait there is a standard model that explains all that we see, that's lucky otherwise all my assumptions about the logs would be rather silly. If you like I would be more than willing to post more original research till the mods tell me to stop or this thread is hopefully closed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, peter said: If you look at the ends of the logs you will see rather large cracks appearing and if you look at it logically, that indicates the cracks we see in your FE theory Do you know how to tell the root end of a log/ trunk ? Just chuck it into the water and which ever end sinks is the root end, this reminds me of the spinning globe theory, it's rooted in everyone's mind but on the lighter side it's just a fairy tale invented by the Luciferiens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Talking of stumps Alexa...new theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, alexa said: Do you know how to tell the root end of a log/ trunk ? Just chuck it into the water and which ever end sinks is the root end, this reminds me of the spinning globe theory, it's rooted in everyone's mind but on the lighter side it's just a fairy tale invented by the Luciferiens. you have never thrown a log into water have you the laws of physics state that a floating object of uniform density will always have its center of mass as being higher than its center of buoyancy, which is why tree logs float horizontally. Except the Old Man of the Lake that is, despite being 9-meters-long, with a diameter of about 61 cm, it’s been floating vertically for the last 120 years, and of course this will be your cherry picked example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, peter said: you have never thrown a log into water have you the laws of physics state that a floating object of uniform density will always have its center of mass as being higher than its center of buoyancy, which is why tree logs float horizontally. Except the Old Man of the Lake that is, despite being 9-meters-long, with a diameter of about 61 cm, it’s been floating vertically for the last 120 years, and of course this will be your cherry picked example A log/trunk when in water, is never 100% horizontal, when floating it will always slightly sink either to the left or the right, this how one determines where the root end is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, alexa said: A log/trunk when in water, is never 100% horizontal, when floating it will always slightly sink either to the left or the right, this how one determines where the root end is. and the fact that if you are dealing with a long log one end is thicker than the other will have no bearing on the matter, maybe you would like to let me know the root end of these, I picked an old photo as it is less likely to be digitally stuffed with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 hours ago, peter said: and the fact that if you are dealing with a long log one end is thicker than the other will have no bearing on the matter, maybe you would like to let me know the root end of these, I picked an old photo as it is less likely to be digitally stuffed with The one at the bottom left seems a likely candidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 4:58 AM, alexa said: He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. I think that should read He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, with a lump of 4x2 to squash it's people like grasshoppers if they stuff up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I wanted to share my set up for the most recent videos I've taken for my series on perspective. Depending on the waves, the height of the center of the lens is never above 1.5 feet. This places the geometric horizon we are all told we see ships pass over and then disappear behind at 1.5 miles. Considering the above facts, let's really look at these and see for ourselves that the eye level/horizon is far past all these objects that are in fact gone from anyone observing from the beach. Just amazing! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, amy G said: I wanted to share my set up for the most recent videos I've taken for my series on perspective. Depending on the waves, the height of the center of the lens is never above 1.5 feet. This places the geometric horizon we are all told we see ships pass over and then disappear behind at 1.5 miles. Considering the above facts, let's really look at these and see for ourselves that the eye level/horizon is far past all these objects that are in fact gone from anyone observing from the beach. Just amazing! You have never come across the term ,A BROKEN RECORD, obviously not How many clicks do you need to pay for your new camera, come on be on the level I took this picture of the moon last night and was able to zoom right in and managed to get a picture of the man's face ,not only proving that the moon is a globe just like the earth but there is life on that baron rock, now that has to be a scientific first JUST AMAZING The picture of the tree is to demonstrate the phi ratio and the Fibonacci number sequence as they are intertwined with curvature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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