Nobby Noboddy Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: I will answer this properly tomorrow. But I have to ask .....how on planet Earth have you failed to find the million or so dead simple answers to this mega-spammed question? If it's dead simple why do we have to wait for tomorrow for you to answer it properly? Why is this subject so important to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said: If it's dead simple why do we have to wait for tomorrow for you to answer it properly? Why is this subject so important to you? Who says it is so important.... You are the one struggling to find the answer and sucking up nonsense. Why are you incapable of using Google? I am on my pc in the morning Clue. Sunlight Earthlight daylight on the bloody moon. Triple layer visors. Nighty night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Whys Nobby keep changing the topic? Grumpy warned about that a few pages back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: So if its not the moon eclipsing the Sun, what is it then? even in the absence of an alternative the sphere model collapses under its own calcs they continue with a failed model through dogmatism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 10 hours ago, oddsnsods said: How can the moon be an object & transparent at the same time?? I dont see a transparent moon, pretty sure that phenomena would have been well publicized by now. 1. dunno that doesnt sound right 2. i know like all the other 'well publicised' facts about the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, zArk said: even in the absence of an alternative the sphere model collapses under its own calcs they continue with a failed model through dogmatism No dude, you collapsed under the calcs. I spent about 10 pages and some PMs trying to explain the most basic and simple stuff possible and you ignored vast sections of it. It is absurd for you and your silly inaccurate video think the entire community of science relating to planetary motion are wrong because you did some "maths" especially when the berk who made the video misread the start and end times of the shadow!! Why are you still running away from posts, what are you afraid of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 @peter, it looks like we are almost there! If you have nothing more to say about satellites, I am ready for 15 and am looking forward to your thoughts on my 15 points. If you missed it, which is understandable as this thread is posted on so constantly, I'll just leave it here again. Feel free to comment here and respond as well to 15 if you like. Okay, we are almost there! On 9/28/2020 at 11:48 AM, peter said: 14 there are no satellites I think you and I both know where we are, but let me clarify my position. There are real satellites, many times they fall to earth still attached to balloons and nothing is orbiting anything. This one topic could and probably should be its own thread. The sheer amount of disinformation with satellites alone, tells those who have looked into this topic just how important it is to our masters to keep their heliocentric psyop alive. Drum roll.... On 9/28/2020 at 11:48 AM, peter said: 15 Oh ,did I mention the earth is a fucking disc I never said anything close to this, so yeah, straw man argument in full force. My current position is this. I have no idea what this is. All I do know is that we are not on a ball (oblate spheroid) and we are not moving. No axial or orbital motion has ever been shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Amy G the most honest poster DIF has ever seen. High altitude balloons that ORBIT at 17000mph...how does this happen on a flat earth, do the balloons bounce off the dome then come back? Quote The sheer amount of disinformation with satellites alone Yes start a thread & post a few memes & photos of balloons Amy. Edited October 8, 2020 by oddsnsods 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, amy G said: it looks like we are almost there! You have avoided "there". Four of thousands......... 1. What is a lunar eclipse? 2. Why is the Moon inverted in Australia? 3. Why doesn't the Sun get smaller as it vanishes at the vanishing point? 4. Why is half of Chicago not visible? The lower half!! 16 minutes ago, amy G said: I have no idea what this is. 16 minutes ago, amy G said: All I do know is that we are not on a ball (oblate spheroid) and we are not moving. You don't know anything it seems, if that is "all" you think you know. 16 minutes ago, amy G said: No axial or orbital motion has ever been shown. Sure it has, you just ignore the sources because you are a NASA hating, logic avoiding, question evading, debunk dismissing flat earther. NASA has released a pretty amazing video: It consists of more than 3,000 images of Earth taken by the Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC) on the DSCOVR spacecraft. DSCOVR is in a special orbit, 1.5 million kilometers closer to the Sun than Earth, that keeps it more or less between the Earth and Sun. It faces us, so it always sees the daylit side of Earth, and takes an image every two hours, watching the Earth rotate. The video shows the Earth over the course of an entire year, and it’s mesmerizing. I suggest you listen to the narration while you watch, done by EPIC lead scientist Jay Herman. https://www.brown.edu/Departments/Italian_Studies/n2k/visibility/Alison_Errico/Soft Moon/pendulum.html Foucault's pendulum is an easy experiment demonstrating the Earth's rotation. When Léon Foucault first performed the experiment in 1851, the concept that the Earth revolves was nothing new or radical; the pendulum's accomplishment was to provide a proof that did not require minute observations of the stars or other objects far removed from Earth. Foucault's pendulum is a highly localized, easily prepared experiment whose result is clear, powerful, and accessible even to the non-scientist. In short, the pendulum provides everything a science teacher could ask for in an instructional experiment. So how does it work? The elegant answer is that the pendulum swings in a fixed plane and the Earth rotates beneath it, but this explanation is misleading. At the north or south pole, the pendulum is moving in a fixed plane (if we disregard the fact that the Earth is also revolving through space), so the plane of the pendulum seems to rotate through 360° as the Earth makes one full rotation. At any other point on Earth, however, the point at which the pendulum is attached cannot be considered a "fixed point," because that point also moves as the Earth rotates. The plane in which the pendulum swings is similarly in motion. Because of this, the amount of time that it takes for the pendulum to make one full rotation (with respect to its surroundings) is equal to one sidereal day (23.93 hours) divided by the sine of the latitude of its location. Since sin(0)=0, the plane of a pendulum located at the equator will not appear to move at all. In order for a pendulum experiment to be accurate, precautions must be made to assure that the pendulum is not acted upon by any outside forces other than gravity. For example, to start the pendulum moving, it is usually held at an angle by a string, which the experimenter then burns to release the pendulum. Letting the pendulum go from one's hands, or even cutting the string, could give the pendulum undesired momentum in a particular direction. A heavy pendulum on a long, rigid wire can continue oscillating for long periods of time, but eventually air resistance will cause the motion to lessen and stop. Museums will often use an electromagnetic drive to keep their pendula moving, because such a setup provides additional energy to the pendulum without affecting its direction of motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 @peter, although we have done Mars, I just have to show this. I hope you find this as interesting as I did as this will be the closest look we get at Mars until 2035! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) We have geostationary Satellites can be viewed by a telescope, different speed to lower orbiting ISS. How is this possible if the Earth doesn't spin & gravity doesn't exist? Plus we live under a dome, where we dont have any real atmosphere. Which weve already established is completely illogical, as why would the air thin the higher altitude you go if we lived in a vacuum sealed dome?? Claiming Satellites dont exist coz of high altitude balloons does not debunk Satellites. Edited October 8, 2020 by oddsnsods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, amy G said: @peter, although we have done Mars, I just have to show this. I hope you find this as interesting as I did as this will be the closest look we get at Mars until 2035! Edited October 8, 2020 by oddsnsods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 more cgi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, zArk said: more cgi As if. Normal astronomers who do this stuff are using "cgi"??? GTFO People were doing this hundreds of years ago, noting that Mars rotated! Wiki The first telescopic observation of Mars was by Galileo Galilei in 1610. Within a century, astronomers discovered distinct albedo features on the planet, including the dark patch Syrtis Major Planum and polar ice caps. They were able to determine the planet's rotation period and axial tilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Lets say the earth is level, which by observation alone it appears to be, I'd like to know what those that truly believe it is, what they think causes the other celestial bodies to move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 hours ago, zArk said: cgi Your transparent moon disc eclipse with bits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Harmony said: Lets say the earth is level, which by observation alone it appears to be, I'd like to know what those that truly believe it is, what they think causes the other celestial bodies to move The magnetic true North Pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, alexa said: The magnetic true North Pole. Thanks for the reply @alexa are you saying that you believe magnetism causes the movement of the other celestial bodies or some other unknown force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Harmony said: Thanks for the reply @alexa are you saying that you believe magnetism causes the movement of the other celestial bodies or some other unknown force? I believe that at the center of earth is this very high magnetic black smooth rock, it is this that causes the the sea tides on earth to retract in and out every six hours. It is this magnetic mountain/rock at the center ( bulls eye) which causes all the celestial stars, the moon and the sun, which are in the firmament, to rotate above us, this mount also resides under Polaris, the star that never moves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I used to believe that the horizon was a geometric certainty, but now I know it is all perspective. Please note that the true eye-level horizon is still miles beyond everything we see here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, alexa said: I believe that at the center of earth is this very high magnetic black smooth rock, it is this that causes the the sea tides on earth to retract in and out every six hours. It is this magnetic mountain/rock at the center ( bulls eye) which causes all the celestial stars, the moon and the sun, which are in the firmament, to rotate above us, this mount also resides under Polaris, the star that never moves. OK interesting theory, what do you believe causes the tides to come in and out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, amy G said: I used to believe that the horizon was a geometric certainty, but now I know it is all perspective. Please note that the true eye-level horizon is still miles beyond everything we see here. Is there any chance at all you could actually use that camera in a way that is productive? It's like a five year old at Christmas pointing it at things and not knowing what they are doing. People at the beach take pictures of things disappearing over the horizon, it takes a virtual lobotomy not to understand why that is. Edited October 9, 2020 by Comedy Time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Harmony said: OK interesting theory, what do you believe causes the tides to come in and out ? IMO at the centre there is this huge magnetic rock which reaches to the clouds. The seas are drawn in by this magnetic rock which creates a strong whirlpool, every six hours this whirlpool changes to spew out what it has drawn in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) check out these weather balloons. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/1/7/21003272/space-x-starlink-astronomy-light-pollution Skynet! Edited October 9, 2020 by oddsnsods 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, alexa said: IMO at the centre there is this huge magnetic rock which reaches to the clouds. The seas are drawn in by this magnetic rock which creates a strong whirlpool, every six hours this whirlpool changes to spew out what it has drawn in. This is what you believe in coz its suits your confirmation bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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