screamingeagle Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, rideforever said: Why do you say that ? it is a quote from a russian(i think) scientist from the book "who built the moon" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: Hard to say but from my own observation i would say half and half. though, I've seen a lot of flat earthers speak of a creator but not of the 3 main monolithic faiths. Many paths to the center of the circle as the gnostics said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, screamingeagle said: it is a quote from a russian(i think) scientist from the book "who built the moon" One of the authors also wrote The Hiram Key Masons apparently *edit* should say Freemasons ** Edited May 28, 2020 by MrA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Ok so this is where my own conjecture that gravity is real will trip me up Because the Moon is apparently far too big to get caught in Earths gravitational pull Its also.difficult to explain why it is all ways facing the same way as it orbits Earth So yes theres my honest experience with cognitive dissonence and gravity I still believe in it because of other evidence even when I find out the Moon has disqualified itself from the proof , yet its still there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: NASA fakery would debunk the heliocentric model in itself though? there was a fella yonks back who, investigating 9/11 , (i think it was Simon 'september clues' shack) phoned up an intelligence big whig and stated to the big whig "the video footage was fake therefore there were no planes" the big whig replied "well if the footage was fake, you aint got evidence of anything" same with Nasa fakery, doesnt negate the moon landing, just leaves a void between personal experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, MrA said: Witchcraft ? Lol Babylonian Ishtar moon goddess sex magic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Babylonian Ishtar moon goddess sex magic! Flat Earthers believe they have sex with the moon ? This is just too much for one day I will have to try again tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 And they ridicule flat earth believers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 No closeups or still shots. Just CG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Showering down like rain at times but no danger. Sounds more like the convoluted bs NASA puts out on a regular basis to hide something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Odds like these would turn Vegas into a ghost town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: No closeups or still shots. Just CG. They are mostly small objects travelling at high speed when entering the Earth's atmosphere. Any system currently capable of a getting a close up wouldn't be able to track such a thing. There is this however.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory-peccary Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 In the 16th and 17th centuries shooting stars (meteorites) were a religious issue. Protestants didn't believe in meteorites. They thought they were just made up stores by farmers and peasants. Catholics did believe in meteorites (and alexa will like this!) because the only place rocks could fall from was the Heavenly City in the sky. And that is the exact same reason why Protestants didn't believe in them! Then one day sometime in the middle of the 17th century (or maybe the18th) two respectable gentleman were out walking and saw a meteorite land with their own eyes. From then on meteorites falling to earth was accepted as true by the establishment. They still fall to the earth, and they are still from 'up there', but from the solar system or the Heavenly City? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, gregory-peccary said: They still fall to the earth, and they are still from 'up there', but from the solar system or the Heavenly City? So Gods throwing rocks down on us? Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory-peccary Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, alexa said: So Gods throwing rocks down on us? Hmmm Heavens no! Some pope is staggering back home after drinking far too much wine with St Paul and knocks a rock over the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyhoo Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 3:35 PM, rideforever said: When I stand at the beach the horizon looks slightly curved to me, also the heavenly bodies look round, and boats seem to descend below the horizon. Another thing is that on some days I can see the waves on the horizon, meaning I can see the crest and troughs on the horizon. My eyesight is pretty good for long distance. Those boats are not descending below the horizon. They're falling off the edge of the flat earth and floating out into space. I thought everyone knew this already. I myself travelled "around" the world on a 600' ship. I guess I must be part of the disinformation campaign spreading lies and such. Or maybe I was so confused I didn't realize I was going around in circles on a giant flat lake. Here's a simple truth that the flat-earthers can't seem to understand. When you climb higher, you can actually see farther. That's not because the world is flat, it's because that's how basic 9th grade Geometry works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, motleyhoo said: Those boats are not descending below the horizon. They're falling off the edge of the flat earth and floating out into space. I thought everyone knew this already. I myself travelled "around" the world on a 600' ship. I guess I must be part of the disinformation campaign spreading lies and such. Or maybe I was so confused I didn't realize I was going around in circles on a giant flat lake. Here's a simple truth that the flat-earthers can't seem to understand. When you climb higher, you can actually see farther. That's not because the world is flat, it's because that's how basic 9th grade Geometry works. At Mecca there used to be 360 stone idols in a circle before they were destroyed one by one Which might mean nothing at first glance but theres also 360 degrees in a circle My point is even 1500 years ago ignorance won the day and knowledge went to shit as a result Edited May 29, 2020 by MrA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 12 hours ago, gregory-peccary said: Heavens no! Some pope is staggering back home after drinking far too much wine with St Paul and knocks a rock over the edge. You know, this pope has a lot to answer for ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 @Avoiceinthecrowdand @alexa Thanks so much for keeping truth alive. Both of you deserve much credit... especially for your patience. I know it can be frustrating answering the same questions again and again... especially when you are forced into discussing pro wrestling like it is real. @All y'all who have been reading along, but not posting (there are many of you). Are any of you the least bit concerned that this thread is now 12 pages long, has been read thousands of times, and not once has anyone even attempted to dispute even one of my five points I listed in the OP? In my mind, this alone should have bells going off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Flat bells or round bells ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, MrA said: Flat bells or round bells ? You have been on here having all your questions handled for pages now and still have not come close to responding to the OP. Here are the five simple points: 1) Impossible horizons 2) Natural physics of water 3) Natural gas law 4) Emergency landings prove pilots use a flat earth map and they have never used a globe 5) Not only pilot manuals, but nasa's own technical documents repeatedly reference a stationary flat earth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 why can Polaris not be seen by anybody living in the southern hemisphere ? Apparently the Earth is so flat and level you can see Canada from Mexico if you are in a plane on a clear day ? ( according to the OP ) So why cant people all.over the world see Polaris ( the North star ) Surely on a flat and level plane , everyone on Earth should see Polaris no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I have as many questions as you do bflat Except I want to know the vanishing point of light on a flat level.disc 60,000 miles in circumference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 @bflat why dont we try and crowdfund enough money to send a balloon with a go pro in to the sky so we can see for ourselves whats going on ? I mean if I was rich enough I would fund a trip to the ice wall itself It doesnt seem that hard to find considering its surrounding us completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 @MrA A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question.... ... the red herring falls into a broad class of relevance fallacies.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring All your "concerns" can be easily understood with some very basic research, but again all this is simply distracting you from the five simple points. Hit my points first and then anything you can't google for yourself I will help you with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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