Comedy Time Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nobby Noboddy said: And if you can't see that what he did (inserting a previous comment of mine into a more recent post) was disingenuous then you are as small as they are I inserted a previous insult as a means to show that you began it and that was after you had accused me of insulting YOU! Not once have you been insulted! 1 hour ago, Nobby Noboddy said: You are insulting. Name calling is being insulting. No I am not and you haven't been called any names. 1 hour ago, Nobby Noboddy said: Trying to belittle me for not being as tech-savvy as you is insulting. No it isn't, this is a forum for debate. If you come on like some big hurrah and act like it, I reserve the right to take you down in the same fashion! 1 hour ago, Nobby Noboddy said: You really need help for your multitudinous problems. Insulting. You being the judge for this means I can safely dismiss it. 1 hour ago, Nobby Noboddy said: If you like I can recommend some self-help books although you'd probably prefer self-abuse books. Insulting personal and unnecessary. 1 hour ago, Nobby Noboddy said: You get paid to do this. To do what? Show me where to apply. I would love to get paid for this!! Oh and that was insulting. You need to lighten up dude, I was kind of warming to you because you were actually reading the responses. Not so much now. Edited October 2, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 MOD NOTE: Can you all please QUIT the bickering and mud-slinging? Get this back on topic again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Deleted and moved Edited October 2, 2020 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Deleted and moved @Grumpy Owl Edited October 2, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grumpy Owl Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 @alexa and @Comedy Time, which bit of "get this back on topic" do you not understand? There is another thread here for arguing debating as to whether space exists/is real or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Take it to the sPaCe ISS fAAkEE thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Amy g No 8 the sun and the moon, let me just say from the outset which will be no surprise but I do believe in the standard model with regards to our solar system and galaxy. The moon , I believe it is as they say it is with regards to size and distance however I don't think it is a natural earth satellite, there are just too many inconsistencies and anomalies, one would expect to find with a natural body ( this could lead us into a different discussion at a later date as to why). The main reason I do believe in the standard model which has been around for a very long time now, it is a very good predictor, it is used to accurately to predict many of the observational artifacts we encounter , eg sun set sun rise ,eclipses ,both solar and lunar, tides, positions of planets when and where etc etc , now if we had a flat earth and no space or gravity etc, there must be a working model that is able to incorporate all the above mentioned things ,but there isn't ,the FE side of the discussion seems to be only capable of stating why a globe doesn't exist and not why a Flat earth dose exist. Now if the solar system is as the model suggests, the size and distance of the sun is paramount as you would need to have an object that big to exert enough gravitational force to keep the respective planets on their particular orbital paths The clincher for me that the model is correct was the discovery of Neptune which is the third largest planet in the solar system and was discovered by ,Galle in 1846 and is the only planet to be discovered by a mathematical prediction( by Verrier) as to it's presence due to the fact that Uranus had a slight wobble in its orbit around the sun . now if the model was not correct or bloody close to it the prediction about the existence of Neptune would not have been possible and therefore not discovered till much later I imagine, this occurrence would give credence to the existence of gravity PS I know I said I wouldn't look up web sites however I did for the discovery of Neptune as I just wanted to confirm the date Edited October 3, 2020 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peter Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I really wish that people would stop using stupid videos to bolster there beliefs as all they are doing is fostering someones else's so called evidence to put their personal opinion across (can't they think for them selves) I think a good majority of said videos whether for or against are ultimately floored and are only produced for financial gain. It would be refreshing to have a discussion solely on personnel attitudes ,beliefs and opinions in the poster's own words instead of ,Joe Blogs said this and Fred Nerks said that, personally I couldn't give two fucks what Fred Nerks or Joe Blogs had to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, peter said: I really wish that people would stop using stupid videos to bolster there beliefs as all they are doing is fostering someones else's so called evidence to put their personal opinion across (can't they think for them selves) I think a good majority of said videos whether for or against are ultimately floored and are only produced for financial gain. It would be refreshing to have a discussion solely on personnel attitudes ,beliefs and opinions in the poster's own words instead of ,Joe Blogs said this and Fred Nerks said that, personally I couldn't give two fucks what Fred Nerks or Joe Blogs had to say It's not flat earth but thanks for your time. And since you didn't watch it how do you know it's stupid? Imbecile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Morpheus said: It's not flat earth but thanks for your time. And since you didn't watch it how do you know it's stupid? Imbecile. I didn't say it was in this instance I was speaking generally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, peter said: I didn't say it was in this instance I was speaking generally Fair enough, sorry for the reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Fair enough, sorry for the reaction. No worries it just happened to come after your post ,I guess that's what they mean by drawing the short straw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, peter said: I didn't say it was in this instance I was speaking generally You were right anyway, they are actually quite bonkers. I watched for long enough before turning off with complete bafflement. Watch 5 mins of the third one and you will wonder how to get that time back - the bloke must be on acid or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Comedy Time said: You were right anyway, they are actually quite bonkers. I watched for long enough before turning off with complete bafflement. Watch 5 mins of the third one and you will wonder how to get that time back - the bloke must be on acid or something Nothing wrong with acid ,DMT is better though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: You were right anyway, they are actually quite bonkers. I watched for long enough before turning off with complete bafflement. Watch 5 mins of the third one and you will wonder how to get that time back - the bloke must be on acid or something Says the guy camped out on one thread day to day. Say, you don't work for the 77th brigade do you? Or have a job at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Says the guy camped out on one thread day to day. Say, you don't work for the 77th brigade do you? Or have a job at all? Ad hominem arguments - how tedious. Dude, this thread is about the flat earth. You post 3 totally bonkers videos that appear to be made by somebody who is off their nut. There is no relevance to this thread in any of them and to be honest they are some of the weirdest things I've ever watched on youtube. I have no clue what the bloke is trying to say - it's head shaking stuff. Perhaps a little explanation wouldn't go amiss. Now if they are YOUR videos maybe that's why you are getting all miffed about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) Comedy time you are not. They're not my videos and the topic of this thread is called the reality of our physical plane, not the flat earth thread, because if that was the case, your heliocentric arguments (which I've always maintained I agree with) would also be off topic. What the individual attempts to state is that we live on a massive ball earth and in our instance, in a crater. But if you'd have chosen to watch it through (a bit like when you couldn't be arsed to watch the admiral Byrd video I posted because you're an ignoramus) you would have seen the explanation presented. Instead you claim not to understand it, making out the same is unintelligible and denigrate any possible suggestion that conflicts with your ideologies. Which is fine with me, but to state ad hominem when you've just called me a nut! Ha, what a tit you are. Hypocrite much. Edited October 3, 2020 by Morpheus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Says the guy camped out on one thread day to day. Say, you don't work for the 77th brigade do you? Or have a job at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 46 minutes ago, Morpheus said: It's not flat earth but thanks for your time. And since you didn't watch it how do you know it's stupid? Imbecile. It would have helped if you'd offered some information about what the contents of the video would present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Grumpy Owl said: It would have helped if you'd offered some information about what the contents of the video would present. I have grumpy owl, just above. I actually presented another video by the same YouTube user earlier in the thread and was again attacked by Carlos because that's what he does and he cannot speak to anyone with any degree of respect for the views they hold. Not that I hold any such flat earth views, but I see how he interacts with others. Which should beg the question of why he is even here anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Morpheus said: I have grumpy owl, just above. I actually presented another video by the same YouTube user earlier in the thread and was again attacked by Carlos because that's what he does and he cannot speak to anyone with any degree of respect for the views they hold. Not that I hold any such flat earth views, but I see how he interacts with others. Which should beg the question of why he is even here anyway. I would advise you (and everyone else) to stick to debating the topic at hand instead of complaining openly about other members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Comedy time you are not. Uhuh. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: They're not my videos and the topic of this thread is called the reality of our physical plane, not the flat earth thread, because if that was the case, your heliocentric arguments (which I've always maintained I agree with) would also be off topic. Nope, it was a flat earth thread straight from the off. Making obvious counter claims is part of debate. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: What the individual attempts to state is that we live on a massive ball earth and in our instance, in a crater. Oh, okay. THAT was what he was baffling his audience with was it. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: But if you'd have chosen to watch it through I watched most of it, baffling shite. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: (a bit like when you couldn't be arsed to watch the admiral Byrd video I posted I watch most videos posted - no idea what you are talking about or why you required a response from me personally if you aren't a flat earther. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: because you're an ignoramus Hmmm. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: you would have seen the explanation presented. I saw the "explanation presented" and it was some of the most bizarre gibberish imaginable. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Instead you claim not to understand it, making out the same is unintelligible and denigrate any possible suggestion that conflicts with your ideologies. There wasn't any ideology conflict, it was just bonkers weird stuff. It's rather difficult to understand people who make no sense. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Which is fine with me, Obviously it isn't, you called Peter an Imbecile and me an ignoramus. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: but to state ad hominem when you've just called me a nut! An ad hominem argument is where you address the poster and not what they have written. I suggest you go and look up what it actually means. It is not where you insult somebody! I called the video maker bonkers. So unless that is you, you haven't been called anything dude. 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Ha, what a tit you are. Hypocrite much. Another insult and justified by you not knowing what an ad hominem is and by claiming I insulted you when I didn't. Hypocrisy is when somevbody does what they complain about....google "ad hominem". Tell me what you find out. Why is debating on this forum such bloody hard work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Morpheus said: I actually presented another video by the same YouTube user earlier in the thread and was again attacked by Carlos Link please, show me where this occurred, I shall apologise if I attacked you and review the video if it has merit. I will do neither if I didn't and it doesn't! Edit: Your use of the word "again" denotes a re-occurrence. Since you haven't been "attacked" this time that is invalid. Edited October 3, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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