Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) Meteor showers are seen often enough by the masses to confidently assume they exist. Where are the debris landing? Given that many may be consumed to ash before impacting the ground where are all the broken car windows, transpierced roof shingles, pedestrians struck, farm animals injured, boat decks damaged, or just simply having one hit the ground in front of people. Where do their trajectories end? Airliners crisscross the skies yet appear to not be affected by all these so-called flaming hot space mineral debris. Some say they heard them. Officially we are told that the space traversed by a ball earth in its orbit around the sun intersects with asteroid fields. Causing them to enter our atmosphere and glow from the friction of the atmosphere. The flat earth does not travel so we need another explanation. Are they glass fragments released by elve plasma events in the dome above? I doubt very much that raining molten material raining down in sprites would accelerate to the high speeds observed. Has anyone ever stop-action photographed these racing glowing objects at these altitudes to confirm a mineral constitution? I have seen videos taken by drones while executing agricultural surveillance duties where a frame by frame examination of a faint blurr turned out to be a very fast ufo object. Sometimes quite small in size. Speeds estimated near 5000 to 10,000 mph. How many of these fast movers evade detection by the naked eye on account of their speed? In a flat earth model these shooting stars are not coming from the vacuum of a deep space, they are too fast to be falling plasma and glass from a dome sprite. They glow, they are fast, they do not impact the ground, and some generate sound. No craft we have ever built can go that fast. Edited May 28, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 To give a feel for 5000 mph this drone footage catches a fast mover. Something like this and maybe bigger at high altitudes could be mistaken for a shooting star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Another fast mover: Could these be our meteors flying in formation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 As for the luminescence effect of a ufo in transit we have this short clip. Could easily be mistaken for meteor if the same craft were racing across the upper atmosphere: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) I would think this one behaves and looks like a falling star at night tracking across at high altitude: Edited May 28, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 We had someone on here a few weeks back, claiming the moon was a disk & was above our heads. I cant quote his nonsense posts, but of course none of the his flatliner mates called him on his BS. Funny they agree with each other on everything, even meteor showers are a figment of our imaginations now. Anything is possible on a Flat Earth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 6 hours ago, oddsnsods said: We had someone on here a few weeks back, claiming the moon was a disk & was above our heads. I cant quote his nonsense posts, but of course none of the his flatliner mates called him on his BS. Funny they agree with each other on everything, even meteor showers are a figment of our imaginations now. Anything is possible on a Flat Earth. But even you must see that the moon is filmed behind some kind of Plasma or water, look at the waves ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, alexa said: But even you must see that the moon is filmed behind some kind of Plasma or water, look at the waves ? atmospheric seeing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 At the 2.55 mark of the above moon video bottom right corner something flies across.screen from.bottom to top Lol @ finding a UFO on that video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, oddsnsods said: atmospheric seeing Witchcraft ? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Crow777 used to do videos of the moon wave dont know if youve seen before.@alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 why are protons, neutrons and electrons always displayed as spherical? there is no picture observable evidence of a sphere the assumption of sphere shape is based upon electric fields (however science shows them to be polymorphic) atoms are displayed as a micro solar system which spherical electrons travel in an ellipse and protons + neutrons combine to form a sphere science has an obsession with seeing spheres where there are no spheres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Why do truthers presume that those who are exposing the truth ought to have a perfectly working flat earth model in hand to debunk the globe earth? No truther can possibly know the true shape and functioning of our earth, they would never have the finance, the resources, the power or influence for such a task. The problem is not discovering the flat earth model but discovering the lies of NASA, because they are the gatekeepers between this world and the vast forever expanding universe that we know as space. Funny thing is, even flat earthers argue among each other about what flat model we live on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: Why do truthers presume that those who are exposing the truth ought to have a perfectly working flat earth model in hand to debunk the globe earth? You cant just say " I have debunked the helio centric model of the solar system " and then have no working model as a replacement theory And I dont think flat earthers are uncovering the truth at all Its one thing to point out NASA fakery but it wasnt even NASA who worked out that the Earth is spherical and not flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, MrA said: You cant just say " I have debunked the helio centric model of the solar system " and then have no working model as a replacement theory And I dont think flat earthers are uncovering the truth at all Its one thing to point out NASA fakery but it wasnt even NASA who worked out that the Earth is spherical and not flat NASA fakery would debunk the heliocentric model in itself though? I understand that people will naturally require a replacement theory but I don't see why the fakery of NASA wouldn't be enough to start challenging the heliocentric model and that only.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: NASA fakery would debunk the heliocentric model in itself though? I understand that people will naturally require a replacement theory but I don't see why the fakery of NASA wouldn't be enough to start challenging the heliocentric model and that only.... Would it ? If they faked putting a man on the moon does that mean the helio centric model is wrong ? IDK man I mean if peope can.disprove a moon landing does it also.mean gravity does not exist ? I keep hearing lots of one liners and they dont really stand up.to.mutch scrutiny tbh For example as much as I love zark he said earlier why does smoke only go up ? Well it does and it.doesnt For example the smoke from Chernobyl reactor explosion might LOOk like it just went straight up but the particles and dust spread across the entire northern hemisphere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Or the Panama Canal thing It has docks and steps that literally raise the ships in stages so that makes.up.for the difference in height across that distance And the Earth obviously isnt a perfect sphere with smooth sides so no , its very difficult to.apply basic math to a complicated problem such as the difference in elevation across large distances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 It seems as though its almost at a religious stage again with flat earth though You know ? Team A says : prove god exists Team B : prove it doesnt And from those starting positions the.middle ground is a long way off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, MrA said: If they faked putting a man on the moon does that mean the helio centric model is wrong ? It would be a start, and worthy of skepticism, it will tell us the moon is not terra firma and it might make more sense that the moon is not 300,000 plus miles away 6 minutes ago, MrA said: I mean if peope can.disprove a moon landing does it also.mean gravity does not exist ? It did get people questioning the theory of gravity and its formulas and equations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, Forsaken Bankzy said: It would be a start, and worthy of skepticism, it will tell us the moon is not terra firma and it might make more sense that the moon is not 300,000 plus miles away It did get people questioning the theory of gravity and its formulas and equations. I will.admit right here I have more questions about the moon than answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, MrA said: It seems as though its almost at a religious stage again with flat earth though Ye I know but perhaps that's what the Copernicus heliocentric model was designed to do. To bring us away from an intelligent designer, a creator, a God that we should fear in some way. I discovered the flat conspiracy 5 years ago and I was an atheist at the time. three years into the conspiracy i find myself believing in Jesus Christ which completely transformed my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: Ye I know but perhaps that's what the Copernicus heliocentric model was designed to do. To bring us away from an intelligent designer, a creator, a God that we should fear in some way. I discovered the flat conspiracy 5 years ago and I was an atheist at the time. three years into the conspiracy i find myself believing in Jesus Christ which completely transformed my heart. Is there quite a large number of people who are becoming Christian again in the flat earth movement ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, MrA said: Is there quite a large number of people who are becoming Christian again in the flat earth movement ? Hard to say but from my own observation i would say half and half. though, I've seen a lot of flat earthers speak of a creator but not of the 3 main monolithic faiths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, MrA said: I will.admit right here I have more questions about the moon than answers well with the current knowledge(sciences) the best explanation is "the best explanation for the moon is that it doesn't exist" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, screamingeagle said: the best explanation for the moon is that it doesn't exist" Why do you say that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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