The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[alexa]

 

 

22 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Alexa, you don't appear to know much at all. Water finds its level according to the rate of fall due to gravity. Gravity pulls things towards the centre of mass. The centre of mass is in the middle of planet. The globe. Like every other planet and Moon and Sun in the solar system.

 

The centre of earth is at the Magnetic North Pole which guides the sun and the moon and gravity lol's........... is just a theory.

 

Tesla said

Quote

“gravity doesn't exist, the only true force in nature is electromagnetism.

 

[peter]

4 hours ago, Bombadil said:

It wasn’t aimed at you Peter, it was a simple explanation for the moronic flat earthers

yes I know.

[Comedy Time]

2 hours ago, alexa said:

The centre of earth is at the Magnetic North Pole which guides the sun and the moon and gravity lol's........... is just a theory.

 

Uhuh. So we are all like little magnets are we? 

 

If my hand was the size of the Earth and my forehead the size of Jupiter.....the deafening noise made with a cosmic facepalm would still not do your "theory" justice.

[alexa]

15 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Uhuh. So we are all like little magnets are we? 

 

 Did you read the quote from Tesla ? Obviously not, you blatantly ignored it.

 

3 hours ago, alexa said:

Tesla said

Quote

“gravity doesn't exist, the only true force in nature is electromagnetism.

 

[oddsnsods]

Just now, alexa said:

 

 Did you read the quote from Tesla ? Obviously not, you blatantly ignored it.

 

 

 

You sure thats a quote by Tesla?

[alexa]

19 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

You sure thats a quote by Tesla?

 

 

I'm not on Facebook so I couldn't really check it out ??

[Golden Retriever]

7 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

 

I'm not on Facebook so I couldn't really check it out ??

 

When Tesla was 82, instead of speaking at a dinner party, he issued a written statement:

 

“I have worked out a dynamic theory of gravity in all details and hope to give this to the world very soon. It explains the causes of this force and the motions of heavenly bodies under its influence so satisfactorily that it will put an end to idle speculations and false conceptions, as that of curved space. According to the relativists, space has a tendency to curvature owing to an inherent property or presence of celestial bodies.

 

“Granting a semblance of reality to this fantastic idea, it is still very self-contradictory. Every action is accompanied by an equivalent reaction and the effects of the latter are directly opposite to those of the former. Supposing that the bodies act upon the surrounding space causing curvature of the same, it appears to my simple mind that the curved spaces must react on the bodies and, producing the opposite effects, straighten out the curves.

 

“Since action and reaction are coexistent, it follows that the supposed curvature of space is entirely impossible -However, even if it existed it would not explain the motions of the bodies as observed. Only the existence of a field of force can account for them and its assumption dispenses with space curvature. All literature on this subject is futile and destined to oblivion.”

 

https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/dynamic-theory-of-gravity/

 

[oddsnsods]

16 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

 

I'm not on Facebook so I couldn't really check it out ??

 

Thats a facebook page not a source.

 

Tesla had a different view about gravity, but he never said it didnt exist.. he said it wasent the strongest force in the universe. But it doesnt change the flat Earth debate anyway, as there is definitely a force call it what you like holding us down on earth.

I call it Karma.

 

Tesla had a theory on Gravity , he also had plans drawn up for an anti gravity flying saucer. Tesla was big into infinite space & electricity.

 

1. The Dynamic Theory of Gravity–which as-sumed a field of force which accounts for themotions of bodies in space; assumption of thisfield of force dispenses with the concept of spacecurvature (ala Einstein); the ether has an indis-pensable function in the phenomena (of univer-sal gravity, inertia, momentum, and movement ofheavenly bodies, as well as all atomic and molec-ular matter)

 

https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/dynamic-theory-of-gravity/

 

@Golden Retriever beat me to it.

Edited September 28, 2020 by oddsnsods

[alexa]

2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Tesla had a different view about gravity, but he never said it didnt exist..

 

[peter]

9 hours ago, amy G said:

Oh, peter, I am sorry. I honestly thought you were joking, mocking me actually. Illogical fallacies aren't a thing so I thought you were mocking me explaining to globurists that their use of such fallacies renders their arguments invalid. I am actually referring to formal fallacies which has become the preferred term.

 

Things like begging the question, appealing to the authority of known liars, fallacies of presumption and reifying theory into fact are all consistently used by anyone who supports heliocentrism and at the same time renders their arguments meaningless.

you asked for illogical fallacies so I gave them to you from my point of view, as usual no comment . Weather the fallacy is logical or illogical would rather depend on which side of the argument your on

I don't have to mock you, any one that supports the FE theory with meaningless invalid  arguments and assumptions renders themselves incapable of seeing outside their own deluded box which I find quite amusing .

Here is your big chance ,I put up 15 things which I find illogical and false so to me that would make them   illogical fallacies ( which according to you there is no such thing). This thread has been going around and around and getting nowhere ,below are the 15 points I put up which I believe are false, why not go through them and tell us  what your thinking is with regards to each one that makes you believe they are true, no stupid memes just your own words then we will have a clearer and more concise understanding as to your thinking and the thread can become more focused and the arguments on both sides of this apparent great divide can be more relevant  without any of the peripheral baggage.

So as I said here is you chance,

   

1 there is no space

2 there is no gravity

3 there is no curvature

4 there is an invisible dome

5 the atmosphere can't exist near space

6 there is a 1000 ft ice wall holding the oceans in

7 there is an extra unseen object causing a lunar eclipse

8 The sun and the moon are the same distance away and therefore actually the same size

9 Its impossible to travel to antarctic because it is guarded and you would be turned away or shot

10 there is no progression of the zodiac

11 you cant seem to remember what a planet is ,mars in particular

12 water doesn't curve. Never washed a car or seen the effect of surface tension

14 there are no satellites

15  Oh ,did I mention the earth is a  disc

 

there are a few more ,but this will do

Edited September 28, 2020 by peter

[oddsnsods]

23 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

 

Misquote.

https://flatearth.ws/tesla-misquote

 

[peter]

nice going odds ,alexa's head is about explode

you cruel bastard

Edited September 28, 2020 by peter

[amy G]

2 hours ago, peter said:

you asked for illogical fallacies so I gave them to you from my point of view, as usual no comment . Weather the fallacy is logical or illogical would rather depend on which side of the argument your on

I don't have to mock you, any one that supports the FE theory with meaningless invalid  arguments and assumptions renders themselves incapable of seeing outside their own deluded box which I find quite amusing .

Here is your big chance ,I put up 15 things which I find illogical and false so to me that would make them   illogical fallacies ( which according to you there is no such thing). This thread has been going around and around and getting nowhere ,below are the 15 points I put up which I believe are false, why not go through them and tell us  what your thinking is with regards to each one that makes you believe they are true, no stupid memes just your own words then we will have a clearer and more concise understanding as to your thinking and the thread can become more focused and the arguments on both sides of this apparent great divide can be more relevant  without any of the peripheral baggage.

So as I said here is you chance,

   

1 there is no space

2 there is no gravity

3 there is no curvature

4 there is an invisible dome

5 the atmosphere can't exist near space

6 there is a 1000 ft ice wall holding the oceans in

7 there is an extra unseen object causing a lunar eclipse

8 The sun and the moon are the same distance away and therefore actually the same size

9 Its impossible to travel to antarctic because it is guarded and you would be turned away or shot

10 there is no progression of the zodiac

11 you cant seem to remember what a planet is ,mars in particular

12 water doesn't curve. Never washed a car or seen the effect of surface tension

14 there are no satellites

15  Oh ,did I mention the earth is a  disc

 

there are a few more ,but this will do

Oh, hi again peter. I'd like to first say how honored I am that you, odds and Comedy keep coming to little old me for all your answers. It is even more interesting how agitated some become when their questions don't receive the attention which they feel they are somehow entitled to. And this is regardless of how absolutely off topic and irrelevant these questions are (not yours per se).

 

It really is an honor though, that I feel I'm not worthy of. I have only been in this a few months and I'm sure that many of your answers can be attained by a simple search, and from people far more qualified than myself.

 

That said, I have a proposition for you. I suggest we handle each point one by one. I suggest we each get 3 and only 3 posts per point. If this sounds good to you, I will begin, so the last word will be yours for all 15 points. When we conclude with your 15 points, then we will do the exact same thing except this time it will be for my 15 points.

 

I will also suggest to any on the flat earth side (which I am doing right now, should this go down) to give us space to do this and ask of you that you do same for team globe. Does this sound fair and would you like for me to begin?

[peter]

19 minutes ago, amy G said:

Oh, hi again peter. I'd like to first say how honored I am that you, odds and Comedy keep coming to little old me for all your answers. It is even more interesting how agitated some become when their questions don't receive the attention which they feel they are somehow entitled to. And this is regardless of how absolutely off topic and irrelevant these questions are (not yours per se).

 

It really is an honor though, that I feel I'm not worthy of. I have only been in this a few months and I'm sure that many of your answers can be attained by a simple search, and from people far more qualified than myself.

 

That said, I have a proposition for you. I suggest we handle each point one by one. I suggest we each get 3 and only 3 posts per point. If this sounds good to you, I will begin, so the last word will be yours for all 15 points. When we conclude with your 15 points, then we will do the exact same thing except this time it will be for my 15 points.

 

I will also suggest to any on the flat earth side (which I am doing right now, should this go down) to give us space to do this and ask of you that you do same for team globe. Does this sound fair and would you like for me to begin?

So ,why do you believe there is no space,and I obviously believe there is

[amy G]

4 minutes ago, peter said:

So ,why do you believe there is no space,and I obviously believe there is

Do you agree to the above terms and is it fair to add that we do this amicably,  both of us trying to set an example for how a logical fact based debate can actually happen on this forum?

[peter]

I would like to find out what makes you think the way you do in your own words so if we can do that amicably fine

[amy G]

1 minute ago, peter said:

I would like to find out what makes you think the way you do in your own words so if we can do that amicably fine

I'm sorry, I'm still honored you care so much for my thoughts, but if you cannot honor those simple terms, then I am not interested unless you have alternative terms that would be conducive to legitimate discussion.

 

Be well.

[peter]

4 minutes ago, amy G said:

I'm sorry, I'm still honored you care so much for my thoughts, but if you cannot honor those simple terms, then I am not interested unless you have alternative terms that would be conducive to legitimate discussion.

 

Be well.

what do you mean you tell me why you think   space doesn't exist an I will tell you why I think it does simple

Edited September 29, 2020 by peter

[amy G]

1 minute ago, peter said:

what do you mean you tell me why you think space  space doesn't exist an I will tell you why I think it does simple

3 posts on each of your points with you getting the last word in and then 15 of mine in reverse... yes or no?

[peter]

just one post per point and you can have the last word

[amy G]

1 minute ago, peter said:

just one post per point and you can have the last word

 

There must be at least one response, for misunderstandings if nothing else. I'm sure we agree that posts on the internet do not always translate well the first time.

 

Cool?

 

[peter]

10 minutes ago, amy G said:

 

There must be at least one response, for misunderstandings if nothing else. I'm sure we agree that posts on the internet do not always translate well the first time.

 

Cool?

 

Just one post each ,I have as much chance of looking like an idiot as any one else , I won't be researching other websites  just my thoughts and opinions that's all  and I hope you would do the same

Edited September 29, 2020 by peter

[amy G]

Sorry, too many misunderstandings and this should be fair.

[peter]

well make it so there is no misunderstandings, you get an extra post per point to ask for clarification if needed

[amy G]

Ok, all love.

 

1 hour ago, amy G said:

1 there is no space

Here you have employed a straw man fallacy. It is certainly not fake and I never said that.

 

Imho, none of us have a clue what space is and I have become convinced that the big bang heliocentric model is impossible based on physical laws. The 2nd law of thermodynamics alone falsifies the idea that space exists in the way that freemasons have been pretending since they first began publishing sci-fi fantasies.