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21 minutes ago, alexa said:

 Ha! Now your on about perspective, how ironic!

 

Explain in your best English grammar why that is ironic. 

 

You're going to ignore that request, just like you're going to continue to avoid answering why the Sun sets without changing size. Or why indeed the damn thing drops below the horizon from "god knows" how high above eye-line.

 

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7 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

thats the distance hundreds of planes travel every day.

That is what freemasons tell you, but you do not know this.

 

If you can prove that those numbers are factual, then I will admit I was wrong. Until then, this clearly dishonest meme stays attached to you along with the many others you have posted on these threads.

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We can let the readers decide why.

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7 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

I dont know why or how you get away with your constant obvious 2+2=5 trolling on here, asking nonsense painstakingly tedious questions to avoid the obvious, gaslighting people claiming the are posting deceptions.

I'm guessing you meant this post for @Comedy Time

 

7 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

The map works out timeline calculations, not distance travelled.

That is why I posted it and why I mentioned that it was patented in several countries for that. It is truly the work of a genius.

 

7 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

the map is based on North & South Pole values, stretched out & distorted.

It only appears stretched and distorted because you have never seen anything close to what we actually live on. The 'southern hemisphere' needs to appear stretched like that because the globe is a projection reality and nopt the other way around. They had to make the lines of latitude decrease to pretend we are on a sphere. They had to make the southern latitudes identical to those above the equator when nothing could be further from the truth as all lines of latitude south of the equator must get physically longer.

 

The reality is still this. No one can show us that any north/south latitudes are evn close to the same distance.

 

If I'm wrong, I'm am fine with admitting it.

 

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21 minutes ago, amy G said:

That is what freemasons tell you, but you do not know this.

 

BULLSHIT - anyone who has travelled on a plane knows this. Duhhhh.

 

21 minutes ago, amy G said:

If you can prove that those numbers are factual, then I will admit I was wrong. Until then, this clearly dishonest meme stays attached to you along with the many others you have posted on these threads.

 

Prove to you? GTFO - tens of millions of long haul travellers could scream in front of you and you'd do this....

 

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21 minutes ago, amy G said:

We can let the readers decide why.

 

Yep decided. Flat earth is ludicrous shite. 

 

You are incapable of responding to anything that tears apart your phoney claims.

 

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10 minutes ago, amy G said:

If I'm wrong, I'm am fine with admitting it.

 

 

No you aren't. You have failed to even address things showing you are wrong.

 

10 minutes ago, amy G said:

The reality is still this. No one can show us that any north/south latitudes are evn close to the same distance.

 

 

Flat earth maps cannot work at any size. They need half the planet to be illuminated. No amount of horseshittery with maps will do this. You cannot supply a flat earth map that works.

 

That SHOULD tell you everything. 

 

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10 hours ago, amy G said:

It is a mathematical certainty. You have never researched any of this.

 

There is no proof of this and famous navigators have recorded in their journals trips for years that covered 60 or 70 thousand miles. Yet they were never able to do it.

 

I know, if you read the post I was quoting someone else there.

So if I can see it, then I can record so obviously is not a mathematical certainty. Yes I have researched this sort of stuff since the 90,s

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10 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

No. Are you saying it magnifies a tiny dot to a full disc? If not what daft point are you making.

 

Your comprehension failures are seriously getting in the way here.

You are deliberately avoiding the obvious 

Refraction occurs but the size of sun appears the same from sunrise to sunset

 

The comprehension failure is yours

 

The sun must be a different size at sunrise and sunset but refraction alters the observed size

 

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That is what freemasons tell you, but you do not know this.

 

If you can prove that those numbers are factual, then I will admit I was wrong. Until then, this clearly dishonest meme stays attached to you along with the many others you have posted on these threads.

 

 

@bflat

I know this coz ive flown across the world multiple times & know the time & distance.

Any pilot would also confirm you need medication & are not well.

Just to clarify for anyone whos still not sure of what a lower dimensional sad troll you are here is an air calculator to go confirm for themselves.

 

The main point on the map tho is Sydney to Argentina. Which on Flerth map would be impossible non stop on anyplane with fuel consumption & time.

But as ive pointed out before, there are non stop flights from Australia to South America, youve tried to deny exist on here several times. Max Igan has recorded one of these trips on video. But course that makes him a freemason obviously.

Even flerther SHILL Santos Bonacci, has confirmed hes flown direct. After being arrested & locked up suddenly turned into a total bullshit artist like yourself. Whats your excu$e?🤔

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2 hours ago, zArk said:

You are deliberately avoiding the obvious 

Refraction occurs but the size of sun appears the same from sunrise to sunset

 

The comprehension failure is yours

 

The sun must be a different size at sunrise and sunset but refraction alters the observed size

That's it zArk your nearly there

1 No one is avoiding anything, obvious or otherwise on this side anyway

2  The sun appears the same size from sunrise to sun set ,you say you only follow the evidence ,so why don't you skip down that path for a while and see where it leads,or could it be the evidence you only follow is indeed rather selective

3 The comprehension failure is yours , now that is a statement we can both agree on

4 The sun must be a different size at sunrise and sunset but refraction alters the observed size . WHAT SHIT that would mean that the atmospheric conditions must be exactly  the same at both sunrise and sunset every single day ,as we know the said conditions have a rather large bearing on the amount of refraction that occurs and the likely hood of that percentage wise would be zero.

Keep clutching at straws,there may be one or two left ,but I doubt it

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3 hours ago, zArk said:

You are deliberately avoiding the obvious 

Refraction occurs but the size of sun appears the same from sunrise to sunset

 

The comprehension failure is yours

 

The sun must be a different size at sunrise and sunset but refraction alters the observed size

 

 

Refraction doesn't have to cause magnification especially when it is through one single medium! The light predominantly follows a uniform curving. There is no sudden dramatic density change like with water.

 

But so bloody what with mega bloody obvious bells on!!

 

Things disappear at the vanishing point and the bloody clue is in the word vanishing!! Duhhh.

 

Not disappearing full identical size as it is the whole time. And you continue to ignore the ludicrous distances via trigonometry to the sun at the horizon.

 

Afraid to be wrong....why?

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9 hours ago, peter said:

4 The sun must be a different size at sunrise and sunset but refraction alters the observed size . WHAT SHIT that would mean that the atmospheric conditions must be exactly  the same at both sunrise and sunset every single day ,as we know the said conditions have a rather large bearing on the amount of refraction that occurs and the likely hood of that percentage wise would be zero.

 

the observed size is created by the object appearing smaller but then readjusted through refraction. as the sun moves across the sky and comes closer the line of sight passes through a a gradient of atmospheric conditions that are relatively consistent throughout the year. the conditions may not be the same each day or month but the gradient will be consistent

additionally the big difference of atmospheric conditions is most noticable with  the Moon because it is easier to watch and notice

the Sun is too bright for the naked eye and any size anomaly (like the moons) would go unnoticed

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8 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Refraction doesn't have to cause magnification especially when it is through one single medium! The light predominantly follows a uniform curving. There is no sudden dramatic density change like with water.

 agreed there is no dramatic density change except in special circumstances like the Supermoon

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2 minutes ago, zArk said:

the observed size is created by the object appearing smaller but then readjusted through refraction. 

 

What total crap. The observed size is identical to the Zinth size or any size ever all over the world any time of day. No matter how far either the Sun or Moon are, they remain the same damn size.

 

2 minutes ago, zArk said:

as the sun moves across the sky and comes closer the line of sight passes through a a gradient of atmospheric conditions that are relatively consistent throughout the year.

 

So what, is this the comedy magnifying glass in play? Dude, this is horseshit.

 

2 minutes ago, zArk said:

the conditions may not be the same each day or month but the gradient will be consistent

 

Why will it! Is it more at the bottom of the Sun than the top?! Why wouldn't it be? From around 10 degrees and lower just above the horizon, the distance changes VERY dramatically with small movements down. Always a perfect circle right up to the point where it begins major refraction on the horizon.

 

2 minutes ago, zArk said:

additionally the big difference of atmospheric conditions is most noticable with  the Moon because it is easier to watch and notice

the Sun is too bright for the naked eye and any size anomaly (like the moons) would go unnoticed

 

The same size all the time and it disappears from view from ABOVE the eye-line. You cannot possibly believe any of your post, this it just bollocks.

 

VANISHING  POINT, not thing up in the sky magically disappears full size. 

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10 minutes ago, zArk said:

 agreed there is no dramatic density change except in special circumstances like the Supermoon

 

The Supermoon has no bearing on any of that. It just means it is bigger at perigee and stays bigger when it goes over the "vanishing" point.

 

You appear to have (as always) evaded all or most of another post...

 

But so bloody what with mega bloody obvious bells on!!

Things disappear at the vanishing point and the bloody clue is in the word vanishing!! Duhhh.

Not disappearing full identical size as it is the whole time. And you continue to ignore the ludicrous distances via trigonometry to the sun at the horizon.

Afraid to be wrong....why?

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8 minutes ago, zArk said:

@Comedy Time i agreed that the Sun size doesnt apparently change.

 

gah its never enough to agree with you

and i agreed that there is no big density change

 

what is your problem? just take the win

 

Then how the hell does it set and rise? VANISHING point. Explain.

 

The sun doesn't change size whether "apparently" or actually. Neither does the Moon.

 

You continue to avoid responding to trigonometry concerning the distance to the Sun at sunset and questions pertaining to its distance from Earth. 

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1 minute ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Then how the hell does it set and rise? VANISHING point. Explain.

 

The sun doesn't change size whether "apparently" or actually. Neither does the Moon.

 

You continue to avoid responding to trigonometry concerning the distance to the Sun at sunset and questions pertaining to its distance from Earth. 

apparently sets and rises, it just comes from far away and goes to far away

 

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2 hours ago, zArk said:

 

the observed size is created by the object appearing smaller but then readjusted through refraction. as the sun moves across the sky and comes closer the line of sight passes through a a gradient of atmospheric conditions that are relatively consistent throughout the year. the conditions may not be the same each day or month but the gradient will be consistent

additionally the big difference of atmospheric conditions is most noticable with  the Moon because it is easier to watch and notice

the Sun is too bright for the naked eye and any size anomaly (like the moons) would go unnoticed

give it a break mate,  what absolute unadulterated bullshit , oh but I only follow the evidence , so if you have followed it where is the firm proof for your  statement above.

From where I stand your in a deep hole old son and no amount of bullshit is going to get your head any near the parapet let alone above it , do you know how hard it is to type when you have tears streaming out of  your eyes from laughter, the old saying ,if you cant impress them with brilliance baffle them with bullshit bodes well in this case I feel

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

apparently sets and rises, it just comes from far away and goes to far away

Well how fucking scientific , how can I argue with that statement

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4 hours ago, zArk said:

apparently sets and rises, it just comes from far away and goes to far away

 

 

OK are you done then? We both know you have nowhere to go with this.

 

it comes from far away, how far you won't say, the same size as at midday everywhere on the globe. It suddenly disappears full size. Distances to horizon are ludicrous.

 

ONLY A GLOBE WORKS.

 

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On 9/24/2020 at 8:09 PM, Basket Case said:

 

I'm not Australian but when I drove a van from just outside Sydney to just outside Perth I'm sure as sure can be that although it took a looooong time the journey was nowhere near 5000 miles. 

LOL 😂 

 

I rode a motor cycle from Sydney to Perth back in the day and worked in Bolder nickle smelter outside Kalgoolie as a contract sparkie, bloody hot 51 deg c the day I left 

It's pretty close to 4000 Klm or 2500 mile

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On 9/24/2020 at 11:09 AM, Basket Case said:

 

I'm not Australian but when I drove a van from just outside Sydney to just outside Perth I'm sure as sure can be that although it took a looooong time the journey was nowhere near 5000 miles. 

LOL 😂 

 

 

Well I feel dumb now, as that didn't cross my mind.

 

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Once flat no coming back.

 

Flat 4 life! 💀⚰️

 

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