The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[amy G]

6 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Your claim, you do it. You claim to be the mathematician.

I have.

Are you going to respond? Why not? Afraid to lose face?

 

[zArk]

17 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Uhuh and you actually believe that big pile of horseshit? The optical illusion says there is NO change to the size. A camera captures the same size no matter where in the sky no matter what angle, no matter where from. And what is your underlying claim - that the Sun is actually a tiny pinprick at the horizon? Or that the air density magnifies it?

 

 

are you saying that refraction doesnt exist for sunsets and sunrises?

 

 

[amy G]

@oddsnsods posted this purposely deceptive meme with obviously fake numbers:

 

 

 

 

I asked where the numbers came from. You claimed mathematics. I asked you to show your work.

 

Are you going to respond? Why not? Afraid to lose face?

 

 

 

 

[Bombadil]

3 hours ago, amy G said:

Where are you getting your numbers?

 

And why bother with obviously dishonest memes?

 

But, you never circumnavigated it because that is impossible.

 

The coastline paradox proves all maps are wrong, especially on a globe. I promise you have no idea what the distance of any coastline is.

 

 

 

The coastline “paradox” is not a paradox. It is the bs you make up when face with incontrovertible facts to ludicrous claims you make. It has been circumnavigated multiple times. I didn’t give any numbers or post any memes.

Edited September 24, 2020 by Bombadil
Redressing a point not made by me within post

[amy G]

6 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

The coastline “paradox” is not a paradox. It is the bs you make up when face with incontrovertible facts to ludicrous claims you make.

It is a mathematical certainty. You have never researched any of this.

 

6 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

It has been circumnavigated multiple times.

There is no proof of this and famous navigators have recorded in their journals trips for years that covered 60 or 70 thousand miles. Yet they were never able to do it.

 

8 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I didn’t give any numbers or post any memes.

I know, if you read the post I was quoting someone else there.

[Comedy Time]

39 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

are you saying that refraction doesnt exist for sunsets and sunrises?

 

 

No. Are you saying it magnifies a tiny dot to a full disc? If not what daft point are you making.

 

Your comprehension failures are seriously getting in the way here.

[Comedy Time]

50 minutes ago, amy G said:

I have.

Are you going to respond? Why not? Afraid to lose face?

 

 

Show me where you have!

 

I have no problem responding, being wrong, or moving on. I have evaded nothing.

 

If I put up a comprehensive video showing massive problems with your silly map....you would ignore it.

[gregory-peccary]

1 hour ago, amy G said:

I suggest you try actual numbers that fit reality. These don't appear on the scripts so some actual research would come in handy here.

 

Now, please tell us the distance between 85.4°N 137.4°W and 85.7°N 142.5°W and also between 85.0°N 132.8°W and 86.4°N 169.8°E.

 

Are you going to respond? Why not? Afraid to lose face?

 

Well, I've just had a happy half hour before starting work!

Navigation calculations are fun aren't they!

'Later' I will post the answers with working.

 

[alexa]

7 hours ago, peter said:

 

your getting close, that was half the question ,in case you have forgotten the other part was, dose the sun change size as it moves across the sky

 

Ha you made a big slip up here didn't you peter 

 

[Comedy Time]

5 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Ha you made a big slip up here didn't you peter 

 

 

 

WTF? The sun moves without changing size EVER and you post some nonsense about references to it moving in the bible, that have NOTHING to do with the point he raised!

Edited September 24, 2020 by Comedy Time

[alexa]

1 minute ago, Comedy Time said:

WTF? The sun moves without changing size EVER and you posts some nonsense about references to it moving in the bible, that have NOTHING to do with the point he raised!

 

I thought in your book that earth orbits the sun and doesn't move across our skies ??

[Comedy Time]

Just now, alexa said:

 

I thought in your book that earth orbits the sun and doesn't move across our skies ??

 

I don't have a book and yes that is quite correct. The whole point is that in YOUR BOOK! the sun DOES move across the sky but does so in a way that cannot equate with what you claim. 

[alexa]

3 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

I don't have a book and yes that is quite correct. The whole point is that in YOUR BOOK! the sun DOES move across the sky but does so in a way that cannot equate with what you claim. 

 

All these passages in the the Scripts, they cant all be wrong surely ?

[Comedy Time]

3 hours ago, amy G said:

@oddsnsods posted this purposely deceptive meme with obviously fake numbers:

I asked where the numbers came from. You claimed mathematics. I asked you to show your work.

Are you going to respond? Why not? Afraid to lose face?

 

 

From Sydney to North Pole is 8,560 miles. Though of course any flat earther can simply deny this without offering the real distance saying "I don't know"!! But according to the flat earth map distances from pole to pole are the same as for the globe. If not explain or evade.

 

Circumference at Sydney is 53,790 miles. If you dispute this, offer the correct distances or evade.

 

Perth 115.8605° E

Sydney 151.2093° E

 

Difference is 35.35 degrees a tad under 10% of the circumference. 

Sydney to Perth on flat earth map is 5,300 miles rounded down.

 

http://distancebetween2.com/sydney/perth#:~:text=The total straight line distance,to Perth is 2045.2 miles.

Only it it's just over 2000 miles!!! 

 

Don't you think the Australians would have noticed. Duhhhhhhhh.

 

Are you going to respond? Why not? Afraid to lose face? Evasion coming up.

 

The only way to get Sydney Perth distance actually correct is to have the distance from Sydney to The North Pole 3,254 miles.....LMAO....as if.

Edited September 24, 2020 by Comedy Time

[Comedy Time]

8 minutes ago, alexa said:

All these passages in the the Scripts, they cant all be wrong surely ?

 

Start a thread and if it piques my interest we can discuss them. But SURELY you know these passages have gone through DOZENS of translations?

 

Notwithstanding that NONE of them talk about the size of the Sun which was the whole point.

[Comedy Time]

@amy G

 

85.4°N 137.4°W to 85.7°N 142.5°W 
Distance 34.44 miles

 

85.0°N 132.8°W to 86.4°N 169.8°E
Distance 210.47 miles

 

Ok. Now what?

Edited September 24, 2020 by Comedy Time

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

5 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Sydney to Perth on flat earth map is 5,300 miles rounded down.

 

 

Only it it's just over 2000 miles!!! 

 

Don't you think the Australians would have noticed. Duhhhhhhhh.

 

I'm not Australian but when I drove a van from just outside Sydney to just outside Perth I'm sure as sure can be that although it took a looooong time the journey was nowhere near 5000 miles. 

LOL  

 

[Comedy Time]

1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

 

I'm not Australian but when I drove a van from just outside Sydney to just outside Perth I'm sure as sure can be that although it took a looooong time the journey was nowhere near 5000 miles. 

LOL  

 

 

The only way to get Sydney Perth distance actually correct is to have the distance from Sydney to The North Pole 3,254 miles.....LMAO....as if.

 

Every single thing brought up that annihilates the flat earth.....is ignored.

[oddsnsods]

2 hours ago, amy G said:

@oddsnsods posted this purposely deceptive meme with obviously fake numbers:

 

 

@bflat outside planet flat thats the distance hundreds of planes travel every day.

 

I dont know why or how you get away with your constant obvious 2+2=5 trolling on here, asking nonsense painstakingly tedious questions to avoid the obvious, gaslighting people claiming the are posting deceptions.

As I stated to you, which you avoid, the map is based on North & South Pole values, stretched out & distorted.

The map works out timeline calculations, not distance travelled.

 

"The map is not so extorted as to lose the relative latitude and longitude of any places on the land or sea, but retains all latitudes and longitudes of places agreeing with other recognized authors; and as the proper relations of continents and countries all stand in their relative position to each other, they are thus impressed upon the mind of the student. The extorsion of the map from that of a globe consists, mainly in the straightening out of the meridian lines allowing each to retain their original value from Greenwich, the equator to the two poles."

 

[peter]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

Ha you made a big slip up here didn't you peter 

 

 

1 hour ago, alexa said:

  8 hours ago, peter said:

 

your getting close, that was half the question ,in case you have forgotten the other part was, dose the sun change size as it moves across the sky

 

This is what I actually said

 

21 hours ago, zArk said:

they moon and sun appear to be the same diameter and you can assume the size is the same

Yes but not for the reasons you postulate

your getting close, that was half the question ,in case you have forgotten the other part was, dose the sun change size as it moves across the sky or more to the point as the earth rotates and the distance to your point of observation increases. Come on you can do it , it either dose or it doesn't

 

 

Out of context once again , and you being such a godly type and all

 

[alexa]

8 hours ago, peter said:

your getting close, that was half the question ,in case you have forgotten the other part was, dose the sun change size as it moves across the sky or more to the point as the earth rotates and the distance to your point of observation increases. Come on you can do it , it either dose or it doesn't

 

I have taken nothing out of context you said, ' dose the sun change size as it moves across the sky' and then knowing what you just said, then said, '  or more to the point as the earth rotates and the distance to your point of observation increases. '

 

Come on you can't have it both ways, either the the sun move across the sky or it doesn't

[Comedy Time]

4 minutes ago, alexa said:

Come on you can't have it both ways, either the the sun move across the sky or it doesn't

 

Incessant diversionary crap. Is this just a comprehension issue - I already answered this. YOU claim the Sun moves and quite clearly he clarified OUR position (normal reality!)

 

"more to the point as the earth rotates and the distance to your point of observation increases".

 

You gonna bloody answer it?

[peter]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

I have taken nothing out of context you said, ' dose the sun change size as it moves across the sky' and then knowing what you just said, then said, '  or more to the point as the earth rotates and the distance to your point of observation increases. '

 

Come on you can't have it both ways, either the the sun move across the sky or it doesn't

(and then knowing what you just said ,I then said) are you shitting me ? you think I have never heard of a back space or delete button on a key board,you got caught and now your trying to dig yourself out of a hole and it's not working

[alexa]

3 hours ago, peter said:

(and then knowing what you just said ,I then said) are you shitting me ? you think I have never heard of a back space or delete button on a key board,you got caught and now your trying to dig yourself out of a hole and it's not working

 

So does the sun move across the sky or not ?

[Comedy Time]

7 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

So does the sun move across the sky or not ?

 

Yes, it moves from our perspective. No, it doesn't in reality the Earth spins on its axis. 

 

Do you have a STFU button for diversionary crap and an ON switch to answer the damn point being made? Just curious.