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5 minutes ago, alexa said:

@Carlos these meme's prove nothing, you'll have to come up with better than that ..........sorry to say!

 

No, we are fed up of explaining it........ you explain it, how these work on your globe.........

They have already moved on to dishonest memes. Take the win, lol.

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The “Nature of Reality” forum was recently hosting a thread where heated discussion was taking place regarding our plane, “a flat, nonrotating Earth” as nasa themselves reference multiple times in mul

I dont think that flat earth is a thing. But either way - why does the shape of the world matter? If its a flat sphere or a globe - there is no difference for us in our daily lifes, is it?

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I chalk this whole thing up to indoctrination and  blind faith. I mean considering there is not one replicable experiment that can be done that shows water curving around a ball or sticking to outside of any spinning shape for that matter, what is left? Logical fallacies?

 

See if this helps:

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Changing shape of water

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Sessions Session I: Use different containers to show water takes on the shape of it’s container – 15 minute

 

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Here guys, as always, I beg of you to not take my word or anyone's. Experiment for yourselves. You can try this lesson here:

 

https://web.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/PIEE/1c3.pdf

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4 hours ago, Carlos said:

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why is the light source further from the land in the bottom image?

 

i thought it was pretty much accepted by both sides that the light source is close in the bottom image ... way closer than the claimed 150 million miles for the represented top image

 

also you can see the light distortion at the apparent horizon right???

 

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4 hours ago, Carlos said:

Explain the sunset and explain a lunar eclipse.

 

i tried to explain the solar eclipse with helio/sphere calculations and it doesnt work out...

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time to face the facts that

a shadow of the moon doesnt travel faster than the moon yet the eclipse was observed across 14,000 km in 5 hours west to east

 

that .... doesnt .... work ..... for ... the globe model .....

 

its impossible... the model collapses

 

 

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2 hours ago, zArk said:

tried to explain the solar eclipse with helio/sphere calculations and it doesnt work out...

Wow ,just because you can't do it , it must be so

You have won so many chess games lately with check ,mate and checkmate , not to mention globe  model collapses, but the funny thing is your side doesn't have any model to speak of and can't even explain night and day effectively, (please don't put up that silly sun and moon explanation video again) until you can, actually taking you seriously is rather somewhat  difficult

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3 hours ago, zArk said:

 

just some weird 'lightening' type discharge in the sky

How come we  see lightning going from cloud to cloud and from the earth to the cloud but we never see lightning going from the clouds to the dome ,there would obviously be a static potential difference between the two though that must be feasible, just a thought

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33 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

You explain to me how the sun sets on a flat plane in your own words.

 

The sun doesn't actually set it carries on going through what is called the 6 portals or Gates throughout the night. There are 12 portals in total in which the sun travels through in 24 hrs.

The sun goes down from the heaven and returns through the north in order to reach the east.

 

PS Edit Edit

It just seems like the sun is setting but in actual fact it is still traveling around.

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2 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

The sun doesn't actually set it carries on going through what is called the 6 portals or Gates throughout the night. There are 12 portals in total in which the sun travels through in 24 hrs.

The sun goes down from the heaven and returns through the north in order to reach the east,

 

The bible told you this?

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4 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

That Jewish nonsense doesn't explain a sun set.

 

It claims the sun revolves around the flat earth for 30 days before moving to a new gate through a portal.

 

 

 

I hadn't realized you wanted the perspective of the sun at sunset.

It's strange how this guy in this vid makes so many masonic hand gestures..............

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18 hours ago, theo102 said:

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The Elite have been controlling what we've been taught in schools for years. What we learned was meant to leave us confused and to think the opposite. Who's to say the sun travels around us? We get 'sunrise' and 'sundown'. it makes more sense (forgetting what we learned in school) that it travels over the earth then under. Personally, I dont think the earth is spining, seems still to me.

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7 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Not electrical poles no more then?

 

well there has to be a + ve and -ve imbalance for the effect to be seen, if it is indeed an electrical phenomenon

8 hours ago, peter said:

How come we  see lightning going from cloud to cloud and from the earth to the cloud but we never see lightning going from the clouds to the dome ,there would obviously be a static potential difference between the two though that must be feasible, just a thought

well, i think even with lightening scientists are still arguing over the mechanism.

imo, with absolutely no proof or evidence, people create the conditions for the lightening and in some way create the conditions for the appearance of electrical tracers over the sky

imo, peoples emotional conditions create the weather but this is something completely different to this this discussion thread

 

 

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On 8/17/2020 at 1:04 AM, bflat said:

@ evryone who is scared of facts and physics:

 

--Laser tests over several miles

--A 1000 mile horizon taken from a passenger jet

--Brian Shul, USAF (retired) seeing Canada from above Tucson, NM at 85,000 feet

--Water curving around a ball or any shape has never been proven in any replicable or observable way

--Laser experiments show the exact opposite

--Multiple emergency landings - pilots, nor ship's captains have ever... they have never used a globe to navigate from - they would be lost which is why they have always used something close to the freemason's UN flag (great circle routes are pure reified idiocy brought to you from disney)

 

Need I go on?

 

Ok, how 'bout nasa's own tech manuals? I'm not talking about the kiddie BS they teach wannabees and 'goy - NOPE - here are their own technical documents.

 

While this makes perfect sense to the loudest handful on here, for those reading along, I would really... really... really...Like you to think about this:

 

NASA Technical Memorandum 104330; Predicted Performance of a Thrust-Enhanced SR-71 Aircraft with an External Payload (Page 8 - Digital Performance Simulation Description) "The DPS equations of motion use four assumptions ... a nonrotating Earth."

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88507main_H-2179.pdf

 

NASA Technical Note: A Method for Reducing The Sensitivity of Optimal Nonlinear Systems to Parameter Uncertainty (Page 12 Problem Statement) ... "(2) A flat, nonrotating Earth"

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19710018599.pdf

 

NASA Technical Note; Calculation of Wind Compensation for Launching of Unguided Rockets (Page 8 Trajectory Simulation, 2nd Paragraph) ..."this simulation assumes ... the missile position in space is computed relative to a flat nonrotating Earth"

 

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040008097.pdf

 

NASA Technical Paper 2768; User's Manual for LINEAR, a FORTRAN Program to Derive Linear Aircraft Models (Page 12, Program Overview) ... “Within the program, the nonlinear equations of motion include 12 states representing a rigid aircraft flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat nonrotating Earth”
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88072main_H-1259.pdf

 

NASA Technical Paper 2835; "User's Manual for LINEAR, a FORTRAN Program to Derive Linear Aircraft Models" (Page 1, Summary) AND (Page 126 , Report Documentation Page, Section 16) "The nonlinear equations of motion used are six-degree-of-freedom equations with stationary atmosphere and flat, nonrotating earth assumptions."

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19890007066.pdf

 

NASA Technical Memorandum; Determination of Angles of Attack and Sideslip from Radar Data and a Roll Stabilized Platform (Page 2, Section 16.) “The method is limited, however, to application where a flat, nonrotating earth may be assumed.”

 

NASA Contractor Report 186019; An Aircraft Model for the AIAA Controls Design Challenge (Page 11, Equation of Motion and Atmospheric Model) ... “The nonlinear equations of motion used in this model are general six-degree-of-freedom equations representing the flight dynamics of a rigid aircraft flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat nonrotating Earth.”

 

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88248main_H-1777.pdf

 

NASA Contractor Report 3073; Investigation of Aircraft Landing in Variable Wind Fields (Page 6, Chapter II - Aircraft Landing Model) ... "The Aircraft trajectory model employed in this study was derived based on the following assumptions: a) The Earth is flat and non-rotating. "

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19790005472.pdf

 

NASA Technical Memorandum 81238; A Mathematical Model of the CH-53 Helicopter (Page 17, Equations of Motion) .. "The helicopter equations of motion are given in body axes with respect to a flat, nonrotating Earth."

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810003557.pdf

 

Engineering Experiment Station, Georgia Institute of Technology, Prepared for NASA; Atmospheric Oscillations (Page 10) ... "A model frequently used is that of a flat, nonrotating earth." ... (next paragraph) .. "The most one can profitably simplify the problem is to consider an isothermal atmosphere, plane level surface, and a nonrotating Earth."

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19650015408.pdf

 

NASA Tecnical Paper 2002-210718; Stability and Control Estimation Flight Test Results for the SR-71 Aircraft With Externally Mounted Experiments (Pages 10-11 Equations of Motion) ... "These equations assume a rigid vehicle and a flat, nonrotating Earth."

 

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88733main_H-2465.pdf

 

NASA Technical Memorandum 100996; Flight Testing a VSTOL Aircraft to Identify a Full-Envelope Aerodynamic Model (Pages 4-5, State Estimation) ... “For aircraft problems, the state and measurement models together represent the kinematics of a rigid body for describing motion over a flat, nonrotating Earth…”

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19880014378.pdf

 

NASA Ames Research Center; Singular Arc Time-Optimal Climb Trajectory of Aircraft in a Two-Dimensional Wind Field (Page 2, Section II. Singular Arc Optimal Control) ... “In our minimum time-to-climb problem, the aircraft is modeled as a point mass and the flight trajectory is strictly confined in a vertical plane on a non-rotating, flat Earth."

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20060053337.pdf

 

 

Does this really matter when we live in a holographic simulation of reality,,, lol !! so silly yet I find it too amusing 😀

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