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The “Nature of Reality” forum was recently hosting a thread where heated discussion was taking place regarding our plane, “a flat, nonrotating Earth” as nasa themselves reference multiple times in mul

I dont think that flat earth is a thing. But either way - why does the shape of the world matter? If its a flat sphere or a globe - there is no difference for us in our daily lifes, is it?

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16 hours ago, alexa said:

 Four Commercial Airline Pilots Admit The Earth is Flat

https://youtu.be/xCPjBhrC6jc

 

lol. I notice the comments are turned off on the video. Probably to stop people trying to correctly inform the poster.

 

If people are happy to try and view it as a disc then why not as a globe? what is your interest in flat earth? what drives your belief?

 

 

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3 hours ago, Asmallperson said:

what drives your belief?

 

The thought of NASA (Satan) deceiving humanity and driving a wedge between us all plus the fact that this ball earth theory with all it's Einstein math's was invented for the pacific reason of distancing ourselves from God which IMO has done a pretty good job.

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

The thought of NASA (Satan) deceiving humanity and driving a wedge between us all plus the fact that this ball earth theory with all it's Einstein math's was invented for the pacific reason of distancing ourselves from God which IMO has done a pretty good job.

How is this distancing anybody from God? Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within so surely God must be too?

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Asmallperson said:

How is this distancing anybody from God? Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within so surely God must be too?

 The ball earth and the big bang theory ridicules Genesis 1 to a point where people don't believe that God created earth. But this was Satan's plan all along. But God said that all truth will be revealed during the last days.

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10 minutes ago, alexa said:

 The ball earth and the big bang theory ridicules Genesis 1 to a point where people don't believe that God created earth. But this was Satan's plan all along. But God said that all truth will be revealed during the last days.

You do realise that genesis is metaphorical?

 

Big bang doesnt ridicule genesis. Let there be light could mean a blinding explosion.

 

The last days are when you die and see your full life before you. 

 

The bible was written by people who didnt have the knowledge we have today. It is not the infallible word of god in writing. I guess for many religious people questioning the bible creates a lot of problems, as it could be seen as doubt, which brings feelings of guilt and shame, etc. God gave you senses to see the world around you. He also gave you a brain so you could learn from it rather than be trapped by the text of an ancient book.

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13 minutes ago, Asmallperson said:

God gave you senses to see the world around you.

I couldn't agree more! Can you see the earth orbiting the sun or do you see the sun moving across the sky? can you see any curvature on the horizon? can you see the earth spinning or even feel it moving, for that matter ? can you see that water always finds it's level ? can you see that the moon is not 384 thousand miles away. can you see that the sun is not a million miles away ?

If only you could see...........

 

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8 minutes ago, alexa said:

I couldn't agree more! Can you see the earth orbiting the sun or do you see the sun moving across the sky? can you see any curvature on the horizon? can you see the earth spinning or even feel it moving, for that matter ? can you see that water always finds it's level ? can you see that the moon is not 384 thousand miles away. can you see that the sun is not a million miles away ?

If only you could see...........

 

 

I can see NASA faking all the footage from inside the ISS, using green screen, CGI, augmented reality and wires.

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The Universe Doesn't Do Straight Lines...

https://articles.whatsn3xt.com/the-universe-doesnt-do-straight-lines-d0d9021f7aaf

 

How does gravity work within the flat Earth scheme ? Does this one assume there's a 'high' and a 'bottom' to the universe ?

 

Why do things and bodies fall down on Earth ? Why do astral objects move in space if not because everything's circular and there's no more straight lines or 'zero gravity' than the ones created by men ?

 

Gravity needs centers, and there would be no such centers if everything was flat, then no move and therefore no life… Don't forget that any vehicle before to move forward needs to separate itself from the ground thanks to wheels or propulsion power, and that it then keeps doing it all the way thanks to suspension or/and air flow, so there's always something turning round and a permanent ascending force resisting gravity.

 

If the Earth was flat then everything on Earth would stay static and lifeless.

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, chud said:

The Universe Doesn't Do Straight Lines...

 Your right chud

 

Isaiah 40:22

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

 

Proverbs 8:27

“When He established the heavens, I was there,

When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep,

 

God doesn't say ball he says circle, as there is a mention of a ball in the Bible

 

Isaiah 22:18

And whirl you around and around, and throw you like a ball into a wide land. There you shall die, and there shall be your glorious chariots, you shame of your master's house.

 

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43 minutes ago, alexa said:

I couldn't agree more! Can you see the earth orbiting the sun or do you see the sun moving across the sky? can you see any curvature on the horizon? can you see the earth spinning or even feel it moving, for that matter ? can you see that water always finds it's level ? can you see that the moon is not 384 thousand miles away. can you see that the sun is not a million miles away ?

If only you could see...........

 

But some things can only be seen from a certain perspective. The eyes are limited to what they can detect. This is why technology is used. If we relied only on what our eyes could tell us then we would know very little. 

 

Do you accept the idea of subatomic particles?

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Just now, alexa said:

 Your right chud

 

Isaiah 40:22

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

 

Proverbs 8:27

“When He established the heavens, I was there,

When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep,

 

God doesn't say ball he says circle, as there is a mention of a ball in the Bible

 

Isaiah 22:18

And whirl you around and around, and throw you like a ball into a wide land. There you shall die, and there shall be your glorious chariots, you shame of your master's house.

 

 

Well this document states there was no word for a sphere in Hebrew at that time. It seems plenty of religious people can accept a globe earth!

 

http://www.eternal-productions.org/PDFS/articles/Does the Bible Teach a Spherical Earth.pdf

 

 

"Does the Bible Teach a Spherical Earth? Many believe that the Bible teaches that the earth is flat (or a flat disk). Both assumptions are incorrect. There are a number of Scriptures that indicate a spherical earth. These Scriptures were penned centuries before a spherical earth was confirmed.

 

Isaiah 40:22 states that God “sits above the circle of the earth.” While there is no Hebrew word for sphere, Khoog which is translated circle, circuit, compass is the closest. Because God is omnipresent, He looks down upon the earth from every direction. Therefore, from God’s heavenly perspective – looking down upon the earth from every location – the earth would appear round from every perspective ONLY if it were a sphere. If the earth were a flat circle for instance, then from most angles the earth would appear as an oval or even a straight-line (if perpendicular to it). Therefore, Isaiah 40:22 indicates a spherical earth.

 

Furthermore, Jesus said “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth” (Matthew 12:40). Of course a person cannot be in the heart of a flat circle anymore than he can be in the belly of a flat fish. And Ephesians 4:9 corroborates when it explains that Jesus “first descended into the lower parts of the earth.”

 

Luke 17:34-36 also implies a spherical earth. Jesus said that at His return some would be asleep at night while others would be working at day time activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night occurring simultaneously.

 

In addition, Job 26:7 explains that the earth is suspended in space, the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon. See also Job 26:10 and Proverbs 8:27.

 

The Bible is the Creator’s Word so it is not surprising that recent scientific discoveries are confirming what the Creator has said for millennia.

 

“For the word of the LORD is right, and all His work is done in truth” (Psalm 33:4)"

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14 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

I think it has something to do with density!

 

OK then density induces 'mass', right ? :classic_blink:

 

'center' means within a mass and not on a plan, and gravity would have no reason to attract things to a middle-point more than to anywhere else on a plan… the fact that the Earth be round explains why things are attracted by it at any place they stand on Earth, which s called 'gravity'...

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Asmallperson said:

Do you accept the idea of subatomic particles?

I can't say that I know anything about subatomic particles!

 

4 minutes ago, chud said:

OK then density induces 'mass', right ? :classic_blink:

 

'center' means within a mass and not on a plan, and gravity would have no reason to attract things to a middle-point more than to anywhere else on a plan…

 

I'm no scientist but I do know that gravity is just a theory and can't be proven!

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1 minute ago, alexa said:

I'm no scientist but I do know that gravity is just a theory and can't be proven!

 

Gravity and the theory of gravity are different things. Theories don't cause solid objects to fall to the ground, gravity does.

 

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7 minutes ago, theo102 said:

Gravity and the theory of gravity are different things. Theories don't cause solid objects to fall to the ground, gravity does.

 

No this is caused by the density of an object!

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3 hours ago, Asmallperson said:

How is this distancing anybody from God? Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within so surely God must be too?

 

 

Yeah I dont see the point either. It doesnt even matter if the world is flat (which it is not) or a globe ...

 

There is no effect whatsoever.

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23 minutes ago, alexa said:

No this is caused by the density of an object!

 

No, buoyancy and gravity are different things. Buoyancy is governed by density, but gravity is governed by mass. 

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@theo102As I said in an earlier post I'm not much of a scientist but I would think that the density of different object has something to do with it's weight i.e a feather or a brick ?

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23 minutes ago, alexa said:

@theo102As I said in an earlier post I'm not much of a scientist but I would think that the density of different object has something to do with it's weight i.e a feather or a brick ?

It does. density = mass / volume, weight = mass * gravitational acceleration.

 

Density matters when you're talking buoyancy, but only mass matters when you're talking gravity (on Earth's surface, at least).

 

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Because of the path of the sun and the moon. In the globe earth model the force of gravity keeps Earth in orbit around the sun and the moon in orbit around us, but in the flat earth model gravity would make the sun and the moon fall from the sky and crash into Earth.

 

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