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The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)


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40 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

If only gratuitous characterizations constituted evidence I might feel compelled to review my convictions. I doubt your colorations of this presentation will matter in the long haul.

In the long haul nothing matters, I was  just stating some observations

Once again rebuttable to your assertion  was ignored, what happened to the gas

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Just now, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

In a vacuum chamber you have a 1000 mph spinning ball covered in water and gaseous atmosphere and gravity holds all this stuff together. My world makes more sense.

 

Because Polaris disappearing below the horizon for some observers makes complete sense on a flat earth, right?

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8 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Polaris can be seen up to 23.5 degrees south latitude.

 

Bullshit. And even if that were true, on a flat earth Polaris should be visible everywhere, regardless of latitude.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

In a vacuum chamber you have a 1000 mph spinning ball covered in water and gaseous atmosphere and gravity holds all this stuff together. My world makes more sense.

There is only one problem , space is not an empty vacuum

about time you put something up we both agree on, (In a vacuum chamber you have a 1000 mph spinning ball covered in water and gaseous atmosphere and gravity holds all this stuff together) ,and MY world dose make more sense 

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2 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Are all the amateur and professional astronomers reporting directly to you?

 

No. You made the claim about Polaris being visible at 23.5 degrees south,  the burden of proof is yours.

 

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On 6/9/2020 at 1:29 PM, serpentine said:

As someone who probably serially posts on a number of forums...

LOL, wrong again.

 

On 6/9/2020 at 1:29 PM, serpentine said:

you may have forgotten that in the previous DI forum you have already directly called me a moron and a freemason.

It is rather convenient that this thread is gone so no one can understand if that actually happened, nor the context if it did.

 

On 6/9/2020 at 1:29 PM, serpentine said:

With that and along with the level of arguments you offer comparable with the activities of a shell game bunkum artist I'll take any suggestions from you with a pinch of the proverbial.

I dunno, friend, it seems odd that you care so much about this topic to "waste time debunking flat earthers," yet REFUSE to go experiment for yourself. It seems like you are just avoiding this issue for some reason. Anyone today can go measure the earth for oneself and as our technology continues to evolve, the simple point regarding horizons will become self evident.

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6 hours ago, theo102 said:

No. You made the claim about Polaris being visible at 23.5 degrees south,  the burden of proof is yours.

How selective, lol.

 

From the above it would follow that you should prove that:

--We live on a ball

--It moves

 

And yet 28 pages in and not one of you have come close to any proof of either.

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1 hour ago, bflat said:

How selective, lol.

Yes, you refused to even address the point that observed change in angular size of the moon falsifies flat earth theory because your theory predicts that the size should change every night when in fact it cycles only roughly every month.

 

1 hour ago, bflat said:

From the above it would follow that you should prove that:

Your standard of proof is irrelevant, and you can't address the point.

 

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6 minutes ago, theo102 said:

Yes, you refused to even address the point that observed change in angular size of the moon falsifies flat earth theory because your theory predicts that the size should change every night when in fact it cycles only roughly every month.

You refuse to provide evidence that we live on one of the freemason's balls.

 

I don't care to explain any of these red herrings. Please start a thread on this as it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SHAPE OF OUR EARTH, NOR IF IT MOVES and stop ignorantly claiming anything has falsified anything you do not even understand.

 

10 minutes ago, theo102 said:

Your standard of proof is irrelevant, and you can't address the point.

My standard of proof is irrelevant as we are discussing objective reality. If you have any proof, just post it already. 28 pages in, bro.

 

Seriously, you just stated the burden of proof is on the claimant. It would follow that you should prove that:

--We live on one of the freemason's balls

--It moves

 

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4 minutes ago, bflat said:

You refuse to provide evidence that we live on one of the freemason's balls.

Because I don't claim that to be the case. We live on the surface of a ~roughly~ spherical planet.

 

6 minutes ago, bflat said:

I don't care to explain any of these red herrings.

Yes, it's painfully obvious that you call any argument that you can't cope with a red herring.

 

12 minutes ago, bflat said:

My standard of proof is irrelevant as we are discussing objective reality.

Non sequitur, it's relevant because you asked for proof, and people have standards of proof.

 

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14 hours ago, peter said:

So what your saying if you have a vacuum chamber in a lab  you have to ask to what degree of vacuum do you want , A total vacuum or or just a few air  molecules or maybe a 90% vacuum , you should be specific.   lets just say there is a 100% vacuum in the chamber and  all the air  has been removed,then through another line you open a valve and you put a small amount of oxygen ,argon ,nitrogen etc etc it don't matter because according to you a gas and a vacuum can't exist unless there is a barrier to separate the gas from the vacuum, so where dose the gas go .

I know this was not directed at myself, but I want to thank you for finally hitting one of the five points in the OP. I was actually quite clear with definitions and if you took time to actually respond to the OP, you would know that.

 

From the OP:

We are told that the greatest vacuum known to us is that of the "infinite vacuum  of space." In fact, Interstellar/Deep Space = ~10^-17 Torr. To put that in perspective, nasa’s vacuum chamber with her two feet thick metal wall that is enclosed by six to eight feet thick cement walls, can only achieve 10^-6.

 

The point? It is physics that falsifies the entire freemason space-ball theory.

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8 minutes ago, theo102 said:

Because I don't claim that to be the case. We live on the surface of a ~roughly~ spherical planet.

 

Yes, it's painfully obvious that you call any argument that you can't cope with a red herring.

 

Non sequitur, it's relevant because you asked for proof, and people have standards of proof.

 

Seriously, you just stated the burden of proof is on the claimant. It would follow that you should prove that:

--We live on one of the freemason's balls

--It moves

 

28 pages in and zip!

 

But please continue (hopefully after you have gone out in the real world and tested for yourself if your beliefs hold water).

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