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there is simple answer ,it's known as gravity Mr click bait,who was it that said never argue with an idiot ,they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time. This is like banging your head against the wall ,it's good when it stops

1 hour ago, amy G said:

I am sorry if this seems repetitive

No it's not repetitive ,it has degenerated into absolute monotony  and is decidedly  boring ,  for someone that is a math wiz

and worked in the aerospace industry( I find that hard to believe) and is  doing so called research, your terms of reference are obviously very limited and as such you are only able to form a rather biased  view  ,therefore you are not doing legitimate  research you are only bolstering your ill informed preconceived ideas. Even when we had the 15 point discussion ,you couldn't even stick to the agreement ( dose in your own words ring a bell)

This will be my last post in this thread, please see statement above for my sanitized opinion of you

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The “Nature of Reality” forum was recently hosting a thread where heated discussion was taking place regarding our plane, “a flat, nonrotating Earth” as nasa themselves reference multiple times in mul

I dont think that flat earth is a thing. But either way - why does the shape of the world matter? If its a flat sphere or a globe - there is no difference for us in our daily lifes, is it?

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13 hours ago, Diesel said:

What made you first think the earth was flat if not the bible?

I was about five years old or something and when I looked, the earth looked flat. Something made think the earth was round I had implicit trust in. When the things that seemed right to you as a kid start looking like the truth concealled by a world in which you misplaced trust, you question everything. Sophistry and philosophy begin to show themselves in the course of time. Sophists say "science says...", philosophers say "nature says...". Science in its original context is the philosophy of nature. The true scientist isnt seeking what scientists say as an end. These are sometimes helpful, sometimes obstacles from what true scientists seek ... wisdom from nature itself.

 

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12 hours ago, amy G said:

POINT 2: Long ago, we should have been seeing video of planes and ships encircling our world in all directions including landing upside down and traveling upside down on "the bottom" of this incredible flying spheroid.

 

How do I know this? It is because of these incredibly detailed pictures and videos that I can now capture at will. I just took this tonight in 35 mph winds and while certainly not perfect, the detail is unmistakable and quite fascinating imho.

 

Planes don't land 'upside-down'. (Or any that do will have crashed)

 

Nice pictures of the moon. It looks like a 'ball' doesn't it?

 

Again, 'from your perspective'. You can see the whole of the Moon, from thousands of miles away, because you have a clear line of sight. Which is the 'top' of the Moon, and which is the 'bottom' though? If you were standing on the Moon's surface, you'd think again that you were standing on a 'flat plane', because you'd see a 'horizon' exactly the same as you see on Earth.

 

Wherever you stand on a 'ball', the ground is always beneath you. That's why planes don't land 'upside-down', they take off from one airport, fly for hundreds or thousands of miles, and then land on the ground again, which is ALWAYS beneath them.

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8 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Planes don't land 'upside-down'. (Or any that do will have crashed)

 

Nice pictures of the moon. It looks like a 'ball' doesn't it?

 

Again, 'from your perspective'. You can see the whole of the Moon, from thousands of miles away, because you have a clear line of sight. Which is the 'top' of the Moon, and which is the 'bottom' though? If you were standing on the Moon's surface, you'd think again that you were standing on a 'flat plane', because you'd see a 'horizon' exactly the same as you see on Earth.

 

Wherever you stand on a 'ball', the ground is always beneath you. That's why planes don't land 'upside-down', they take off from one airport, fly for hundreds or thousands of miles, and then land on the ground again, which is ALWAYS beneath them.

Again, I understand the idea. I am giving you this. You still miss the point. @peter is missing the same point. This is not about how cruise ships and planes fly and cruise around a supposed sphere, but about why we still have never seen the video. Look again at the detail that I can capture and ask yourself why nasa can not absolutely max that kind of detail out from 1/10 of the distance! Remember we are looking at Earth from the perspective of 'space' or at least where satellites are supposedly taking live video from.

 

If they could they would. They had several supposed trips to the moon and yet not one video of our Earth spinning? Today we are told of these thousands of satellites capable of live video with resolution that my camera should never come close to even touching. This one boils down to common sense.

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On 10/27/2020 at 10:38 AM, gregory-peccary said:

Ah! I understand now!

Amy G wants a video taken from the fake ISS showing a plane landing in Australia!

I'm not up to date with the ISS orbit but I'm sure they will be happy to oblige on one of those boring days in space.

Or any 'satellites.' There should be absolutely no problem showing ships and planes moving in all directions around our supposed sphere.

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4 hours ago, amy G said:

Or any 'satellites.' There should be absolutely no problem showing ships and planes moving in all directions around our supposed sphere.

 

There isn't.. .                         .  . ...for the military and intelligence services.

 

It costs a bit for Joe Public to get photos of such detail from orbit as it's an expensive business for private companies to launch and maintain high grade monitoring equipment in space. Here's a short 1080 clip from ISS instead.

 

 

 

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Why are all these images of space devoid of any stars and constellations. It's not a unique request seeing the stars from space is a common question. So why do all these videos omit it. Is it because its too hard to fake?

 

Challenge to Globalists. Show me one video of space with stars and constellations in the background.  It is entirely possible to do this if your claims are valid so please no bullshit excuses about camera speed. 

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On 10/26/2020 at 5:18 AM, alexa said:

 

I came to the truth of flat earth through a good friend of ours 'Richard', he began describing flat earth to the likes of a 'Mexican hat' and somehow FE began to resonate with me.

So I began to google 'Earth Looking like a Mexican hat'

I came up with this pic, this is a picture of a libation bowel used by the Ancient's for drinking wine out of, but when you look at one of these you have to ask yourself how can one drink wine out of one of these ?

It's my belief this is how the ancients depicted earth, they made
hundreds if not thousands of these just like our globe today.

But I literally do thank God for his confirmation of FE

 

 

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a desk top map.PNG

 

Here is another pic of a Mexicon hat :classic_biggrin:

 

 

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POINT 3: Choose to believe that either Polaris is stationary over our plane's center (or your envisioned north pole) just as she appears, or choose to believe that she actually moves slightly, but not enough to distinguish for many life times as you have previously claimed.

 

Now consider the model you are supporting that is shown here:

 

https://iili.io/FHLWZl.jpg

 

Here is the challenge. Pick any point in space to place Polaris and regardless of how many light years away you choose, you will not be able to place it anywhere that is correct. Polaris could never be visible to all the northern hemisphere viewers who see her year round.

 

Modus tollens again confirms.

If we lived on a rotating spheroid that orbited the Sun, then Polaris could not be visible during both solstices and equinoxes from the northern hemisphere.
Polaris is always visible from the northern hemisphere.
Therefore, we do not live on a rotating spheroid that orbits the Sun.

 

I hope you and the fam are well.

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Ybotc said:

Newby question

 

if the earth is flat why do people want to hide the fact, we thought it was flat, we thought it was a sphere, what difference would it make ?

Well, those are two really good questions. This is something I have struggled with myself, but to answer your first question, why would they hide it? Considering the fact that nasa receives over 58 million a day and there are no demonstrable facts that nasa has ever gone to the moon, then why do you think they would lie to us?

 

To your second question, do you believe there's a difference between the "big bang theory" where everything exploded from 'nothing' and our existence here due to an intelligent designer?

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I would like to add for a piece of advice that before you ask these questions that you try thinking like a detective walking into a crime scene. When the detective comes to a murder scene they don't immediately ask why or even who is behind the crime. They gather evidence and then based on facts and logic they come to certain conclusions. This is where they generally start asking these other questions.

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1 hour ago, amy G said:

here are no demonstrable facts that nasa has ever gone to the moon, then why do you think they would lie to us?

 

 

Theres a reflector on the moon that proves NASA got to the moon. 

 

I will concede that this doesnt prove man was on the moon - it could have been automated

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1 hour ago, amy G said:

To your second question, do you believe there's a difference between the "big bang theory" where everything exploded from 'nothing' and our existence here due to an intelligent designer?

 

For me whilst i dont believe the latter - Theres no conflict between intelligent design - God- big bang - evolution.

 

Intelligent design enncompasses it all and a cynic may suggest ots the churches attempt to stay relevant in the face of scientific evidence

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14 hours ago, amy G said:

I would like to add for a piece of advice that before you ask these questions that you try thinking like a detective walking into a crime scene. When the detective comes to a murder scene they don't immediately ask why or even who is behind the crime. They gather evidence and then based on facts and logic they come to certain conclusions. This is where they generally start asking these other questions.


thanks for answers to both questions , and I do like to consider myself a logical thinker problem solver / detective, but I like to hear how others thought patterns work.
 

as a background to me and my beliefs , like everybody on here I don’t believe much of what I’m told and assume that most news is a skewed view of reality. However I also believe that the best way of covering up what is going on is to label it a conspiracy so it’s bundled up with all of the insane conspiracies out there.

 

do I believe in Big Bang and luck or intelligent design , I think the Big Bang is much harder to get your head round (how can something exists before nothing), for me I find it easier to subscribe to the theory that we are the product of intelligent design but believe that intelligent design in this case is from the stars not from heaven. I love ancient aliens but it’s so sad that it asks genuinly interesting questions and then promotes flimsy answers as facts.


however, NASA being paid millions doesn’t seem be a reason to cover up the flat earth , if the money is being siphoned off for elicit means it could have easily been done through a different organisation . As an aside I used to be a firm believer that the moon landings where filmed by Kubrick , but now consider myself to be sceptical rather an outright disbeliever.

 

I just can’t see that it would make any difference to people if the earth was flat or spherical , the move from believing the earth was flat to spherical upset the churches but didn’t make a difference to the people , what would have been the advantage of this change in belief in the first place. If it had turned out that it was wrong and the earth wasn’t a sphere it was flat who gained from hiding this and how did they gain.

 

I understand these questions could be seen as an outsider trying to get a rise, but genuinely interested in antártica (why I read the thread) and also why people believe the earth is flat.

 

Cheers

Toby
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ybotc said:

If it had turned out that it was wrong and the earth wasn’t a sphere it was flat who gained from hiding this and how did they gain.

 

The Luciferians, to hide God.

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53 minutes ago, Ybotc said:

can you expand (or link to resource) I’m not sure why a spherical earth prohibits the existentes of God 

 

If you read most of my posts in this thread you will understand why I say this.

 

Genesis 1

 

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, gregory-peccary said:

So if the firmament is heaven, and the flat earth we live on is in the waters under the firmament ... we are living underwater!

 

Not exactly, there is the firmament between us and the waters above which holds the waters back from drowning us all.

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