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20 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

I know this coz ive flown across the world multiple times & know the time & distance.

Ok, you're not a logician, but be serious. You have no idea what distance you traveled because you flew. No person on earth has that ability.

 

But the goggle map said so?

 

21 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

Prove to you?

Yes, prove the distances or admit the purposeful dishonesty with that ridiculous meme.

 

 

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21 hours ago, Bombadil said:

So if I can see it, then I can record so obviously is not a mathematical certainty.

No, you cannot measure a coastline because of the paradox explained. I know you can see a coastline, but this is not the issue.

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22 minutes ago, amy G said:

Ok, you're not a logician, but be serious. You have no idea what distance you traveled because you flew. No person on earth has that ability.

 

The planes fly at certain speeds as deemed by their specifications. On the vast majority of long haul flights, the route is trackable from a visible map shown during flight. It ALWAYS corresponds to what it should be. The duration of the flight is fairly exact. I've flown amongst hundreds of places to Australia, Thailand across America and the Pacific, seeing landmarks that exactly fit where they should. As have tens of millions of travellers.

 

Now ALL you can do is create yet another massive BULLSHIT scenario where the speed of the plane is faaaaked, otherwise every damn thing checks out!

 

BUT - on many of the flights it HAS to fly well above the sound barrier to enable the distance to be covered on the dumb flat earth map. No sonic booms whatsoever - nothing works on your flat planet!

 

22 minutes ago, amy G said:

But the goggle map said so?

 

So did the flight speed and duration. The world map is very accurate the flat earth "map" is a pile of inaccurate horseshit that doesn't fit! It doesn't fit reality, sun speed and assumes a magic spotlight with the ability to illuminate straight lines across what on the globe is the terminator!!

 

22 minutes ago, amy G said:

Yes, prove the distances or admit the purposeful dishonesty with that ridiculous meme.

 

The distances are proven from the flights that cover those cities. Speed and distance. Proving anything to you is impossible you have no capacity to assess data that doesn't fit in with your crazy claims. I really cannot be arsed to go fetch data for you that you will dismiss without reason. 

 

Why are you afraid to respond to the trigonometry? 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, amy G said:

Ok, you're not a logician, but be serious. You have no idea what distance you traveled because you flew. No person on earth has that ability.

 

Explain how you fly from Chile to Oz non stop on flatardia airlines in your 1st class padded cell with full reclining straighjackets without refuelling?

 

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But the goggle map said so?

 

No Kronos time lord.

 

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Yes, prove the distances or admit the purposeful dishonesty with that ridiculous meme.

 

 

 

Might seem ridiculous with a heavy dose of lithium but to the rest of us makes total sense.

 

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All them planes up there now we think are using GPS for navigation are all just pretending & masons of course reprogram them for the Satanically possessed pilots just to assume they are going in the right direction..but then GPS is a lie anyway as Satellites dont exist .

It makes so much sense to me now, Its them high altitude weather balloons launched from the ice wall, that go round in circles, the bible explains all.

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

OK are you done then? We both know you have nowhere to go with this.

 

it comes from far away, how far you won't say, the same size as at midday everywhere on the globe. It suddenly disappears full size. Distances to horizon are ludicrous.

 

sun travelling across the sky will apparently reduce height the further away it gets from the observer.

the rate of apparent descent is dependant upon sky visual limit and ground visual limit

the observers meeting point of sky and ground is mid eye line , the horizon is always mid view point

the sun visually drops into this midpoint in proportion to the ground visual limit

the meeting point distance is less than the point required for a size difference to be noticable

closer to the meeting point the suns size will apparently become slightly smaller but this is offset by the atmospheric refraction 

 

have you got any explanation for the incredible discrepancy of the solar eclipse being experienced in the atlantic at 20:55 UTC?

the moon moving 6 days and the earths moving 70 days and the earth not spinning left you floundering for an explanation many many many pages back

lets stick to the heliocentric model of

earth spins on axis 15 degrees per hour

moon orbits earth 28~ days 0.5 degrees/hr

earth orbits sun 365 days

 

its really simple basic helio calcs

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

 

sun travelling across the sky will apparently reduce height the further away it gets from the observer.

the rate of apparent descent is dependant upon sky visual limit and ground visual limit

the observers meeting point of sky and ground is mid eye line , the horizon is always mid view point

the sun visually drops into this midpoint in proportion to the ground visual limit

the meeting point distance is less than the point required for a size difference to be noticable

closer to the meeting point the suns size will apparently become slightly smaller but this is offset by the atmospheric refraction 

 

have you got any explanation for the incredible discrepancy of the solar eclipse being experienced in the atlantic at 20:55 UTC?

the moon moving 6 days and the earths moving 70 days and the earth not spinning left you floundering for an explanation many many many pages back

lets stick to the heliocentric model of

earth spins on axis 15 degrees per hour

moon orbits earth 28~ days 0.5 degrees/hr

earth orbits sun 365 days

 

its really simple basic helio calcs

 

 

 

 

I understand now that there is an ENORMOUS effort put into stopping people looking into FE.

 

CT and others post debunking stuff that takes time to watch and is usually the same condescending simpleton explanations assuming the sacred nature of scientism.

 

It makes you want to not bother arguing when they wont even take simple proofs like curvature (A thing you can test for yourself in the right places), but that's what their intention is. And they probably get paid to do it.

 

Couldn't care less really. I'm happy knowing the little I do and humble enough to admit I don't know much.

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24 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

I understand now that there is an ENORMOUS effort put into stopping people looking into FE.

 

There is way more effort in AVOIDING the facts! I wrote a massive post tearing your rather inept comments to pieces and lo and behold you pretended it wasn't there.

 

24 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

Couldn't care less really. I'm happy knowing the little I do and humble enough to admit I don't know much.

 

Right there is your problem. But so long as you're happy, I mean it isn't making you unhappy enough to come on here whingeing or nothing is it🙄🌎

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One liner nonsense and for the 50th time he avoids slam dunk posts!!

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

sun travelling across the sky will apparently reduce height the further away it gets from the observer.

 

That is correct. The law of perspective. On a flat Earth...as it gets further away it gets fucking smaller! For the 100th time!

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

the rate of apparent descent is dependant upon sky visual limit and ground visual limit

 

Bullshit. The rate is dependant on the speed of the Sun - it always moves the same speed no matter where it is. On Planet Flat that is impossible.

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

the observers meeting point of sky and ground is mid eye line , the horizon is always mid view point

 

NO IT IS NOT! It is always below eye line on a flat earth or the planet we live on. Ground is always below eye line unless his head is ON the surface looking dead level.

 

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

the sun visually drops into this midpoint in proportion to the ground visual limit

 

Bullshit. It never gets below the red line in the image above! It gets smaller the further away it gets. Basic, basic, brain sapping obvious perspective.

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

the meeting point distance is less than the point required for a size difference to be noticable

 

Jackie time.....

 

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That is some serious gibbering pish. The Sun travels from Zenith to horizon (on the equator) in 6 hrs. When it hits the horizon it is tens of thousands of ridiculously unfeasible miles away and would be a tiny weeny dot.

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

closer to the meeting point the suns size will apparently become slightly smaller but this is offset by the atmospheric refraction 

 

Ditto. You are spewing totally brainless gobbleydegook. You cannot possibly believe this nonsense.

 

Posted and ignored 30 pages ago! Taken from a flat earther video trying to explain how the sun sets. Awwww bless....

 

The flat earther casually shoots himself in the foot. Notice how the Sun is now about a quarter the size and in terms of its proximity to the artificial horizon it's about halfway from when it started. Notice also all the garbage he left up because he knows full well it never goes lower than the worktop. It is impossible.

 

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That was basically the whole flat earth shite owned on my second post! No wonder nobody responded to it.

 

@Nobby Noboddy  Hey nobby, have a look at the simple pictures just above and then ask yourself why the Sun doesn't do that. Perspective.

1 hour ago, zArk said:

have you got any explanation for the incredible discrepancy of the solar eclipse being experienced in the atlantic at 20:55 UTC?

 

 

There is no discrepancy and you are lying if you say I haven't completely addressed this whole thing. You ignored dozens of posts on the matter, including this one!

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

the moon moving 6 days and the earths moving 70 days and the earth not spinning left you floundering for an explanation many many many pages back

 

 

I have no idea what gibberish this is and you are clearly suffering from some sort of need to divert away from your own failures. If this is the simplified diagram I made for you that you dismissed, then well done for your comprehension fail. I replaced it with a fully animated gif that you have ignored about a dozen times!

1 hour ago, zArk said:

lets stick to the heliocentric model of

earth spins on axis 15 degrees per hour

moon orbits earth 28~ days 0.5 degrees/hr

earth orbits sun 365 days

 

its really simple basic helio calcs

 

It is basic reality and you are afraid to address countless posts explaining why the flat earth shit fails to account for ANY reality. Nothing works on the flat model. EVERYTHING works on the real one - a planet.

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

I understand now that there is an ENORMOUS effort put into stopping people looking into FE.

I understand there is a concerted effort to stop people looking into exotic power sources , the true nature of reality, anti gravity, pedophilia and those involved, the corrupt nature of the worlds organizations eg the UN and the WHO and politics in general etc etc. I just don't think FE is big on the list,do you ,honestly?

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Just now, peter said:

I understand there is a concerted effort to stop people looking into exotic power sources , the true nature of reality, anti gravity, pedophilia and those involved, the corrupt nature of the worlds organizations eg the UN and the WHO and politics in general etc etc. I just don't think FE is big on the list,do you ,honestly?

Maybe not in some ways, but I see it as another verification of the multitudinous lies.

 

Right now it probably doesn't matter. What matters most is the continuing roll-out of 5G kit in the background while we're distracted by the socio-political bollox. They're going to keep this confusion going until they're ready to turn it on then - BANG.

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5 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

The planes fly at certain speeds as deemed by their specifications. On the vast majority of long haul flights, the route is trackable from a visible map shown during flight. It ALWAYS corresponds to what it should be. The duration of the flight is fairly exact. I've flown amongst hundreds of places to Australia, Thailand across America and the Pacific, seeing landmarks that exactly fit where they should. As have tens of millions of travellers.

 

Now ALL you can do is create yet another massive BULLSHIT scenario where the speed of the plane is faaaaked, otherwise every damn thing checks out!

 

BUT - on many of the flights it HAS to fly well above the sound barrier to enable the distance to be covered on the dumb flat earth map. No sonic booms whatsoever - nothing works on your flat planet!

 

 

So did the flight speed and duration. The world map is very accurate the flat earth "map" is a pile of inaccurate horseshit that doesn't fit! It doesn't fit reality, sun speed and assumes a magic spotlight with the ability to illuminate straight lines across what on the globe is the terminator!!

 

 

The distances are proven from the flights that cover those cities. Speed and distance. Proving anything to you is impossible you have no capacity to assess data that doesn't fit in with your crazy claims. I really cannot be arsed to go fetch data for you that you will dismiss without reason. 

 

Why are you afraid to respond to the trigonometry? 

 

 

 

Notice the FE lot ganged together immediately to bury this in other shit and no answers to it at all.

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1 hour ago, kj35 said:

Notice the FE lot ganged together immediately to bury this in other shit and no answers to it at all.

"Ganged together" sounds like another conspiracy.

 

The reason I ignore most of their posting is because it's obfuscation from simple truths that tht the GE lot cannot understand.These are some of those simple comcepts:

Our atmosphere cannot exist next to 'space.' If we lived on a ball I would not be able to shoot a laser over a lake. Water lies flat on top regardless of the container. All of nasa's documents are based on a flat and non-rotating earth. Freemasons are behind it all and I have the evidence to prove that as well.

 

Do I really need to answer to his specific 'points?' Do you see anything there that actually requires a response or do you see how these people are not logicians and that appeals to authority do not work?

 

As I stated, nobody can claim that because they have traveled they know the distance. That is simply insane to even argue and this is what they have been saying for pages.

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11 minutes ago, amy G said:

The reason I ignore most of their posting is because it's obfuscation from simple truths that tht the GE lot cannot understand.These are some of those simple comcepts:

 

You are claiming that every pilot, every aircraft aviation company, Satellite, radar people, even GPS manufacturers is somehow in this hoax & that the distance aircraft travels every hour of the day is a lie & I even throw in a GPS tracker video for you on a plane, which if you was a real truther & not a disinfo agent, you could quite easily verify..you can buy GPS watches, you can also use internet on long haul flights.

But you claim there are no satellites.

If the distances measured around the globe are a lie, then Im pretty sure someone would have noticed by now.

And as usual you have no evidence to back anything you say up but call everyone else on the planet whos travelled on a plane & knows full well how long it takes to get anywhere.

 

I dont know why they give you your safe space on here to troll, is most bizarre & makes the forum look demented.

 

 

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3 hours ago, amy G said:

Do I really need to answer to his specific 'points?'

yes you bloody do,if you want any credibility Bflat

 

3 hours ago, amy G said:

Our atmosphere cannot exist next to 'space

What bullshit, that was dealt with about 70 -80 pages ago

fuck me how many sick bags do you carry ,more regurgitation you must be bulimic

I might bring you back to your very first post where you said , I can talk about this for days , may I suggest you might find a career in politics as you demonstrate an outstanding capacity to duplicate one of a politicians greatest gifts. 

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8 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

There is no discrepancy and you are lying if you say I haven't completely addressed this whole thing. You ignored dozens of posts on the matter, including this one!

You relied upon a diagram not consistent with helio models 

And this is the entire point of the solar eclipse issue

 

The helio model conflicts itself with its own data

Using a model that has the moon move 8 days , the earth move 60 days and the earth not spin shows the desparation to explain a 5 hour eclipse 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, peter said:
7 hours ago, amy G said:

Our atmosphere cannot exist next to 'space

What bullshit, that was dealt with about 70 -80 pages ago

fuck me how many sick bags do you carry ,more regurgitation you must be bulimic

I might bring you back to your very first post where you said , I can talk about this for days , may I suggest you might find a career in politics as you demonstrate an outstanding capacity to duplicate one of a politicians greatest gifts. 

 

Well it can't Peter this is so obvious, there has to be the firmament, I know this has been dealt with before, but when Globalists keep on repeating their nonsense, we have to keep on putting them right, wouldn't you agree ?

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

You relied upon a diagram not consistent with helio models 

 

 

You are a liar! I relied on nothing of the sort, it was merely an  illustration showing how the partial eclipse could be seen when the full eclipse was only viewable in space. I provided two references explaining it fully and several animations that demonstrated it. It is impossible to draw this to scale!!

 

Hey, why don't you show us how it works on the impossible flat earth map?

 

How far away is the Sun and How big is it?

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

And this is the entire point of the solar eclipse issue

 

There is no issue whatsoever, you ignored several large informative posts with multiple references - seriously pathetic!

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

The helio model conflicts itself with its own data

 

 

No it doesn't. You have had it explained in a way a small child could understand.

 

1 hour ago, zArk said:

Using a model that has the moon move 8 days , the earth move 60 days and the earth not spin shows the desparation to explain a 5 hour eclipse 

 

There was no desperation whatsoever, though there was a little frustration in being unable to educate you on this blindingly simple process. I provided references that you ignored, screenshots with times that you ignored. I explained the way speed is relative that confused you, the way the shadow is cast that you couldn't understand. I provided you with animations that showed it and made post after post in response to your total and utter failure. You totally ignored it all.

 

And here you are STILL yanking my fucking chain. 

 

YOU'RE understanding is the problem - not reality. If you don't understand how things work, then YOU don't understand it. You don't get to rewrite reality with nonsense that you fail to even demonstrate!

 

Show us on the flat map how it works. Answer the two simple bolded questions and then I will demonstrate why THAT cannot work, no matter WHAT you type. That is why none of you will answer. @Nobby Noboddy gave me a figure and I annihilated his numbers with trigonometry (needless to say he ran away). I picked an unfeasible lowest distance for the Sun (Everest height) and showed that even THAT cannot work with trigonometry.

 

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