kj35 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Messenger said: Its some genetic thing, I rarely see those kind of lobes. 10 hours ago, rooey said: no offence for those that do. but for some reason people with ear lobes like that often don't seem to be trust worthy and they make up the majority in hollywood.. There are likely some spectacular ones but he really has weird ear lobes or basically non existent ones. as myself have very prominent ear lobes for some reason the ear lobe thing has been something that's come to my attention during my 'waking' They always show Buddha and enlightened beings with very long earlobes. Buddhists believe it is some form of showing spiritual enlightenment Edited May 20, 2020 by kj35 Getting a Buddha picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 bump up past the bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) One of my best friends is active in the UK arm of the disclosure project and MUFON having worked in the military and Whitehall. I trust him and he trusts Greer. So I gave him a listen. He seems very credible BUT I just didn't resonate. I think it's very focused just on the aliens and misses the bigger picture. They seem to want the disclosure to happen. I think it's game over unless we are careful when they appear. They seem to buy the friendly alien story. My mate is coming with me and Mr kj35 to see David in Manchester in November. I've read a lot of stuff my friend recommended which did help lead me here. He was initially dismissive of David Icke he is now quite interested and looking forward to the talk. So i dont know. I dont resonate with it. But i dont know if that's because I immediately resonated with Di's stuff. Does Greer discuss the Saturn Moon matrix or spaceship moon at all ? Also..as an example friend told me to watch the curse of skinwalker ranch on history. They are all 'it's a flying saucer ' whereas to me it seems obvious it's above a DUMB. The saucer and the spooky stuff is just covering up military activity / nuclear waste dumping but their focus is aliens and they see them in everything Be quite strange if he 'came out as an alien himself. Don't know where that thought came from. But there you go. Edited May 20, 2020 by kj35 Just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdx Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 20 hours ago, kj35 said: One of my best friends is active in the UK arm of the disclosure project and MUFON having worked in the military and Whitehall. I trust him and he trusts Greer. So I gave him a listen. He seems very credible BUT I just didn't resonate. I think it's very focused just on the aliens and misses the bigger picture. They seem to want the disclosure to happen. I think it's game over unless we are careful when they appear. They seem to buy the friendly alien story. My mate is coming with me and Mr kj35 to see David in Manchester in November. I've read a lot of stuff my friend recommended which did help lead me here. He was initially dismissive of David Icke he is now quite interested and looking forward to the talk. So i dont know. I dont resonate with it. But i dont know if that's because I immediately resonated with Di's stuff. Does Greer discuss the Saturn Moon matrix or spaceship moon at all ? Also..as an example friend told me to watch the curse of skinwalker ranch on history. They are all 'it's a flying saucer ' whereas to me it seems obvious it's above a DUMB. The saucer and the spooky stuff is just covering up military activity / nuclear waste dumping but their focus is aliens and they see them in everything Be quite strange if he 'came out as an alien himself. Don't know where that thought came from. But there you go. He says that that we went to the moon but we had to fake the footage and edit what was broadcast has there was/is an ET presence there. This is something I belive tbh having researched the moon - I think there is a thread on here detailing more info What he doesn't go into as much as to which aliens put the moon there, why its there etc He is saying that we are building up to a man created alien threat in order to control the human population (in contrast to a genuine alien threat or humans being influenced at the higher levels by malevolent ETs) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) I gave Steven Greer’s valutainment a listen in the background earlier and the guy claims he can bench press 400lbs (180Kg), I don’t care how much shite he talks about aliens, that has to be his biggest bs claim. If he can bench press 400lbs then he isn’t human. This is a sign of a compulsive liar Edited May 24, 2020 by Seeker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 400 lbs is not that much weight for a big guy and he seems very fit, he has that large build, very muscular, and he has for years. A friend of mine a few years ago, he was bragging to me how he bench presses 300 lbs and he just started like a year before and he never ate very well, lots of microwave garbage, so I believe it is possible for someone who eats well and keeps at it. Besides, power also comes from the mind. KJ35, on the moon, it was Alex Collier who said that the Andromedans put the moon there. Here, titled Lecture at the Ranch 1996 He has some very interesting information. John Lear, the son of the man who created the Lear Jet, William Lear, he has also said that the moon is hollow. I can't remember who said it but someone said that the Nazi's are up on the moon with bases. I believe it. They figured out highly advanced propulsion back during WWII when Maria Orsitsch allegedly was communiting with Aryans from Aldeberan. http://1stmuse.com/maria_orsitsch/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Here is a lengthy read but towards the bottom it talks about Die Glocke (the bell due to it's shape) and using a liquid metal mercury that produced a buzzing sound while spinning. This is the mercury vortex generator that Mark McCandlish speaks about. Towards the bottom also mentioned is the RAND corp, who were heavily involved in building the deep underground bases in the US, and William Lear as I mentioned in the previous post. https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_flyingobjects77.htm People really have no idea just how advanced the technology is that the aerospace and intelligence agencies have. Thomas Townsend Brown figured out anti gravity back in the 1920's. Time travel anti-gravity, interstellar travel, teleportation, the aerospace corps have all that, they have for decades, but most people, no offense, are not smart enough to do it themselves so they think, well, if I can't do it then no one else can. Yes, there are people who are much much smarter than 90% of the population. And I'm not trying to be a jerk here by saying that, I'm trying to help people understand that there is such high level shite going on that they wouldn't believe it even if they saw it. A few other links https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_thule09.htm https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ufo_aleman/esp_ufoaleman_9.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Here's the bottom line on Greer ... His big error is to believe any technologically advanced ET civilization is morally /spiritually advanced too ... He doesn't believe in malevolent ET's ... but the truth is the reverse ...any ET's we interact with at this time are evil ... they control things here , and so they allow greer and collier and parkes and geller to promote the benign ET lie .... It's all to set humanity up for the grand deception soon to come . The open arrival of the ET's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Oz it's not that easy. The ET's we are interacting with now, the reptilians and Dracos, the greys, those are malevolent. They are the ones who will fabricate first contact and make it look violent. That's what Dr. Carol Rosin talks about, what Wernher von Braun explained to her. Around 1:49 The Andromedans, Pleiadians, and others I believe are benign. This is why none of them contact us or only a few people in isolated events, because humans can be a very violent species too. In every ET contactee story I've heard they are told by their higher ups that they cannot contact us because we are a threat to them because of violence, the wars we commit against each other. Alex talks about it around 1:17:00 The greys see us as beasts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, Messenger said: Here is a lengthy read but towards the bottom it talks about Die Glocke (the bell due to it's shape) and using a liquid metal mercury that produced a buzzing sound while spinning. This is the mercury vortex generator that Mark McCandlish speaks about. There are a few stories told about spinning mercury producing anti gravity ..... Reminds me of an incident recounted by Tony Rodrigues in one of his videos ... He was a slave in the SSP for many years ...he tells of one assignment he had with 3 others , they had to visit Earth with a supply of mercury ...A reptilian was living in a high rise in NY city , he had an anti gravity device in his flat , presumably for recreation and it must have had a leak or needed topping up ... They delivered the mercury .... the 4 stood to attention while the reptilian examined them ... he sniffed each one in turn .... Tony later found out it was sniffing for terror , if it had detected fear in any of the 4 humans it would have killed and eat him ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, oz93666 said: There are a few stories told about spinning mercury producing anti gravity ..... Reminds me of an incident recounted by Tony Rodrigues in one of his videos ... He was a slave in the SSP for many years ...he tells of one assignment he had with 3 others , they had to visit Earth with a supply of mercury ...A reptilian was living in a high rise in NY city , he had an anti gravity device in his flat , presumably for recreation and it must have had a leak or needed topping up ... They delivered the mercury .... the 4 stood to attention while the reptilian examined them ... he sniffed each one in turn .... Tony later found out it was sniffing for terror , if it had detected fear in any of the 4 humans it would have killed and eat him ... Interesting, never heard of that one. Here is a basic mercury vortex generator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Just now, Messenger said: This is why none of them contact us or only a few people in isolated events, because humans can be a very violent species too. In every ET contactee story I've heard they are told by their higher ups that they cannot contact us because we are a threat to them because of violence... Benign ET's know it's bad karma to mess in our affairs ...My understanding is No physical ET's appearing at this time are benign ..... They evil ones will soon arrive talking love and light , trying to get us to trust them ...don't fall for it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 This man, Eric Laithwaite, he built a Magnetic Levitated (Maglev) train model in his shop back in 1975. But have the US government revised the rail system using this tech? Nope. But trillions of dollars go missing every other few years. Where does it go? Hmmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, oz93666 said: Benign ET's know it's bad karma to mess in our affairs ...My understanding is No physical ET's appearing at this time are benign ..... They evil ones will soon arrive talking love and light , trying to get us to trust them ...don't fall for it! Those evil ones will be holograms from project blue beam. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Messenger said: 400 lbs is not that much weight for a big guy and he seems very fit, he has that large build, very muscular, and he has for years. A friend of mine a few years ago, he was bragging to me how he bench presses 300 lbs and he just started like a year before and he never ate very well, lots of microwave garbage, so I believe it is possible for someone who eats well and keeps at it. Besides, power also comes from the mind. As a fanatic bodybuilder for about 7 years I can tell you my mans not bench pressing 400lbs, like I say if he is that’s mutant strength or something else. I wouldn’t believe he could do it even if he said he was on steroids. I’ve only ever come across a few meat heads who were that strong. Genetics does play a big role for if you’re naturally strong or not, I don’t want to turn this thread into how much can he lift, but prime Ronnie Coleman could bench press 500lbs, there’s a huge difference between him and Steven, for starters Ronnie was a genetic freak, along with proper diet, insane heavy training and drugs. Like I say I’m not convinced in the slightest haha, and if he is lying, what else is he lying about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Seeker said: As a fanatic bodybuilder for about 7 years I can tell you my mans not bench pressing 400lbs, like I say if he is that’s mutant strength or something else. I wouldn’t believe he could do it even if he said he was on steroids. I’ve only ever come across a few meat heads who were that strong. Genetics does play a big role for if you’re naturally strong or not, I don’t want to turn this thread into how much can he lift, but prime Ronnie Coleman could bench press 500lbs, there’s a huge difference between him and Steven, for starters Ronnie was a genetic freak, along with proper diet, insane heavy training and drugs. Like I say I’m not convinced in the slightest haha, and if he is lying, what else is he lying about... Seeker, I think you should challenge him to a lift off on Twitter. He might have a secret that you don't know. I have read that he visits a location and mentally, spiritually, mingles with some advanced people. Maybe he takes monoatomic gold and some other goodies. Remember, lance armstrong did blood transfusion, elegedly. Why would he do that if there were no benefit? I should start lifting and training. Yeah I think I will do that. Theoretically I still have about 53 years, or more, to live. Kind of a scary thought. I hope there are women then who find saggy attractive. It's a two way street I'm sure. Who wants to build a mercury vortex powered UFO with me? We need to go back in time before JFK was shot and alter the outcome. Keep him alive long enough to give disclosure and END THE FED. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuodHumana Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 He is an interesting one. There are one or two things that he said that was really strange, but other things he says are really amazing. He also showed videos of ufo's he and other people have seen with regards to making contact, that are really interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Just about to watch close encounters of the fifth kind. Anyone seen it yet ? Will report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, kj35 said: Just about to watch close encounters of the fifth kind. Anyone seen it yet ? Will report back. Much better than I thought it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Greer mentions his ce5 app a lot on this film. (Close encounters of the 5th kind) it apparently helps CO ordinate close encounters and shows ypu how to initiate them. HOWEVER it is £9.99. So am put off trying it. Anyone else tried it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuodHumana Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) Twitter post with video on Steven Greer potentially being a reptilian. Edited June 19, 2020 by QuodHumana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Well, lets all remember that plenty of folks accuse D Icke of being dis-information too. Steven Greer did spend a lot of time showing credentials in his earlier videos. People who have been with him on contact in the desert seem to believe he is genuine. Personally, to me he tends to have the ring of truth about his info. If you want to watch any of the videos / films from Gaia etc you can do it via bittorent downloads for free. 1. download a browser with a VPN such as Epic 2. Download Utorrent ( or use the inbuilt one in Epic) or something like Webtorrent app 3. find the torrent file on torrent sites such as or Piratebay or click the links that are called 'magnet' links or have a magnet type symbol by them. A google search will also find them if you specify bittorrent in your search 4. A 'seed' is how many people have that file available to share- more seeds = faster downloads/ a 'leech' is how many are trying to download it You can download whole series this way assuming you can find someone who has the files and you have the space to store them. Bittorrent downloads files in 'bits' from many sources, hence not traceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Check out this hologram dragon. This is the tech "they" used on 9-11, the planes were holograms. This is what they will use to fake the alien invasion. This was what Project Blue Beam was about. Not to be confused with Project Black Book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Messenger said: Check out this hologram dragon. This is the tech "they" used on 9-11, the planes were holograms. This is what they will use to fake the alien invasion. This was what Project Blue Beam was about. Not to be confused with Project Black Book. I shared this vid before. Sports fans were able to see the dragon flying over a baseball stadium via their phones, TV screens, and the team's large LED scoreboard. It 's not a hologram and it wasn't visible to the naked eye. It is a sinister looking promotion for 5G though. Edited June 27, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Project Blue Biden. I still can't believe they considered this. A giant creepy Joe is the stuff of nightmares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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