What are your thoughts on Dr Steven Greer?

[Oskar15]

Dr Steven Greer was a guest the other day on Infowars with Alex Jones.

 

I was curious to find out more about him... I am currently reading one of his books called: Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge

 

I was hoping to get other peoples perspectives on this.

 

Thanks :) 

Edited May 16, 2020 by Oskar15
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[Number6]

Not sure what to think, over the years people say he is dis info. I have watched a couple of his videos, he has some interesting insights. I would like to see his new film Close Encounters of a 5 kind though. 

[Aratron]

Total fake

[Seeker]

David Icke isn’t a fan of him based on his valuetainment interview, at the end David Icke is given a series of names and he has to respond with his first thoughts of that person, he said he doesn’t trust Greer 

[Oskar15]

8 minutes ago, Seeker said:

David Icke isn’t a fan of him based on his valuetainment interview, at the end David Icke is given a series of names and he has to respond with his first thoughts of that person, he said he doesn’t trust Greer 

Ok, Thanks - I will keep this in mind.

 

[KingPin]

His views are interesting at first. But my gut tells me ... nope. Stopped watching his interviews and speeches after a while.

[Guest A-chan]

There are many people who think that Dr Greer is a "disinfo agent". I have even read people refer to him as the "reptilian Steven Greer..." for what it is worth. I watched his Project Camelot interview with Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan years ago. There was obvious hostility and an aggressive atmosphere in the room. Kerry didn't seem to think his information was accurate, if I remember.

I am not sure what to make of him. I might watch his Valuetainment interview, I was not aware that he was interviewed on that channel. The host isn't an intellectual, however, he has interviewed some interesting people lately.

[Oskar15]

5 minutes ago, A-chan said:

There are many people who think that Dr Greer is a "disinfo agent". I have even read people refer to him as the "reptilian Steven Greer..." for what it is worth. I watched his Project Camelot interview with Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan years ago. There was obvious hostility and an aggressive atmosphere in the room. Kerry didn't seem to think his information was accurate, if I remember.

I am not sure what to make of him. I might watch his Valuetainment interview, I was not aware that he was interviewed on that channel. The host isn't an intellectual, however, he has interviewed some interesting people lately.

Ok thanks @A-chan I will keep this in mind. If you have any good reads on that subject feel free to let me know 

 

[Guest A-chan]

3 minutes ago, Oskar15 said:

Ok thanks @A-chan I will keep this in mind. If you have any good reads on that subject feel free to let me know 

 

Do you mean Dr Greer's work specifically or Ufology, the Secret Space Programme etc.? Project Camelot have numerous video interviews with many in the field; John Lear, Richard Hoagland, Professor Richard Alan Miller (who is a brilliant mind and has written many books) to name just a few. Jim Marrs wrote many informative books and his work was very well regarded by many. 

[Oskar15]

10 minutes ago, A-chan said:

Do you mean Dr Greer's work specifically or Ufology, the Secret Space Programme etc.? Project Camelot have numerous video interviews with many in the field; John Lear, Richard Hoagland, Professor Richard Alan Miller (who is a brilliant mind and has written many books) to name just a few. Jim Marrs wrote many informative books and his work was very well regarded by many. 

yes, just ufology in general really. Its an avenue I have not yet explored - thanks for the recommendations @A-chan 

[mdx]

Pretty much all the replies above air a negative opinion on Greer without substantiation or data; a recurring aspect of today's social media age where ppl use the internet as a platform for the sake of just being heard and having attention 

 

When I evaluate an individual I look at the information they put our - see if it has varied over the passage of time and how it correlates with other sources. I became aware if Greer shortly after the initial Disclosure Project he organised in 2001. In my assessment of Greer he talks about the following key areas:

Consciousness - Trans-dimensional in nature. Non locality. Supported by those that practice meditation and/or have knowledge of the chakras and other ancient knowledge. Again overlaps with the psychic community who are aware of astral, out o body states. Supported by many that have experiences with DMT/Ayahuasca 

The UFO Connection - Back engineered craft retrieved from crashes such as Roswell. Greer sheds light as to the science of how these work - High voltage resonance fields, mass cancellation. Explains the cover up in part due to the economically disruptive nature of zero point/quantum flux field  energy that supposedly power the craft.  There is the work of Nassim Hurramen, Bob Lazar and the information presented in the Thrive Movie documentary is work looking into for other sources that lean towards what Greer is saying . There is an abundance of historical documents that show the US agencies were trying to cover up events or discredit certain individuals from speaking out 

CE5 Protocols - Greer runs group events where he teaches how to summon ET craft using consciousness. There appears to be unusual footage from the skies at these events which claim to be UFOs. Wroth mentioning that before looking into this area of Greer's endeavours it is worth learning more about Consciousness/metaphysics  itself beforehand. 

 

My personal judgement is that Greer has been consistent on the information that he has put out over time. I believe that the reason Greer is divisive amongst the public is that if one is dead against the existence of alien life/ET contact from the outset then that person will find the material more and more  harder to believe/digest and Greer himself less credible  - the supposed science behind alien craft allows for technology to exist that becomes ever increasingly extraordinary ; interstellar travel, zero-point energy, shifting between dimensions, stargates, teleportation, replication devices, trans-dimensional or 5d into 3d manufacturing... 

 

There is a lot too go into but before coming to a conclusion on Greer I would do a bit of background research into Bob Lazar, the work of Hassim Harrmein. I think that the Thrive Movie is a good intro into the UFO subject since it delves into the science a bit more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s

 

An interesting tidbit was that the Atacama skeleton Greer purported to claim was of ET origin was confirmed to a degree by the channel  Bashar who said it was one of many hybrid experiments that was scrapped. The Atacama issue is illustrative in how the official explanation is disseminated to the major news outlets  incl science press yet the source of this explanartion was (according to Greer) influenced to discredit the possible non human origins of the skeleton. This is one of many ancient artefacts that remain a mystery. I'm still awaiting someone that can reasonably provide a detailed breakdown as to how to recreate the Great Pyramid 

Edited May 17, 2020 by mdx

[mdx]

On 5/16/2020 at 5:00 PM, Oskar15 said:

Ok, Thanks - I will keep this in mind.

 

 

I think this may be because Icke's work is fixated around the Cabal/Cult/Illuminati  and there influence on the world whereas Greer is more focused on the ET coverup by the deep state in the US  and particularly the technology that is being suppressed/researched and developed in Top Secret programmes.  A good illustration of this is compare the lack of coverage Greer pays to current affairs and then the lack of coverage Icke pays to UFOs, alien technology. Icke will cross reference ongoing events that are occurring in the public eye (911, political/royal assinations, 5g etc)  whereas Greer is really referring to what going on at a top secret level that the general public would have no clue about (DUMBS, Special Access Programs) - the latter do not directly impact the day to day lives of many whereas 5g/vaccines/wars do

[northern star]

I was well into him back in the late '90s and even had quite a bit of communication with his very nice secretary in his office in the States. The country singer John Denver had recently died and he was involved with Dr Greer and his Disclosure thing, helping to bring it to world attention. It was quite exciting at the time but nothing whatsoever seems to have been "disclosed" over the ensuing years. In these days of mobile phones and nano-technology you would think somebody, somewhere, would put forth a photo or evidence of aliens, but I havent seen any. Not a jot. Apart from the Roswell stuff that was supposedly filmed in the 1940s. How could the deep state keep their existence a secret?

 

If aliens did make it here through space or from another dimension, they must have the supernatural capabilities to overwhelm world leaders from causing havoc and all the grief and problems we have on earth. I dont think people would be too frightened about it. Probably quite the opposite. Things couldnt be more surreal and troubling on earth as it is. Why dont they just show themselves? Why doesnt Greer go on Alex Jones with one? 

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by northern star

[RobinJ]

MDX I have to agree with you. DI & Greer have a different focus. Interestingly, they both had a weird experience which set them on their journey to obtain truth and bring it into the light. DI had his epiphany on the mountain in south America, Greer had a near death experience, and as a an ex trauma doc experienced a lot of weird stuff at the point of death of others.

In his earlier stuff he always used to show the proof of all his insiders before going on with their testimony.

But really, no matter what your focus is, it is all helping to bring people to an awake state, which is ultimately the end goal. I doubt whether DI is right about everything either.DI considers himself an investigative journalist, Greer is someone who has a lot of high level buddies due to his military family connections. They all have a role to play.

 

Ive seen Greers latest CE5 movie, it's similar to the last one, with more high level ex military and one of the 'triangle head light beings' caught on film. I think there was some stuff about the various weird mummies found and tested around Nazca/ Peru area too.

 

Of all the insiders Ive seen, Emery Smith was fascinating and knows the Leer family ( of Leer jets) and he comes over as a very credible genuine guy. Cosmic Disclosure was a very interesting series.

I know from bitter experience how shit life can get when you expose corruption, my own life imploded after I exposed a £40m scam when the scammers came after me in retaliation, so you need some large nuts to go after top brass military types to expose the gigantic lies they keep secret just so we can be kept down. It can be a shite world sometimes. Personally, I hope they are all right and that we are moving into a better place without endless war, poverty and lack.

[RobinJ]

On 5/16/2020 at 4:33 PM, Oskar15 said:

Dr Steven Greer was a guest the other day on Infowars with Alex Jones.

 

I was curious to find out more about him... I am currently reading one of his books called: Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge

 

I was hoping to get other peoples perspectives on this.

 

Thanks :) 

I believe Alex Jones started out with a good heart and intention to expose truth, however, somewhere along the line in recent years I feel the 'powers that be' got at him and turned him, ( probably with death threats) which in turn makes his stuff less credible now and of course it then makes it easier for folks to cry 'conspiracy theory' to everything rather than to follow the thread to proof with a 'what if...' mindset. Use your own judgement, dont rely on others, because EVERYONE will have their own opinion and biases no matter how enlightened they are. Even me ;-)

[Messenger]

I think he is a gatekeeper, one who gives a percentage or truth mixed with some fallacies.

Example, he says that there are no malevolent ET's/aliens. *cough* bullshyte.

Colonel Major Sergeant Bob dead has said in an interview that Anunnaki walk the halls of the Pentagon, and that they are at a base in Dimona israel.

 

KERRY CASSIDY: ET INTERVENTION ON EARTH

[mdx]

In reply to Northern Star

 

there have been numerous alien contact events but they just do not receive widespread media coverage - UFO landing at the Ruwa school in Zimbabwe, 1994, Rendlesham Forrest, UFO School incident at Broad Haven. Multiple UFO sightings like the Phoenix Lights, Radar tracking by military planes. Dubiously edited NASA footage showing weird objects and artificial structured on the Moon. Reports of UFOs in WW2 known as Foo Fighters. There was even an alleged crash a few days ago just outside of Rio in Brazil - I forget the name of the village. 

 

Bottom line is is that the mainstream media heavily controls what information is put out there and in turn public perception. Anything that will be too disruptive and cause ppl to deviate from official narratives (science/tech, religion, political etc) will not be featured and/or discredited. E.g. In China the media report that foreigners are the cause of Covid 19. There are many ancient artefacts are difficult to explain but these do not garner publicity since it would deviate from the idea of real civilisation spawning from Christianity 

Edited May 17, 2020 by mdx

[mdx]

4 minutes ago, Messenger said:

I think he is a gatekeeper, one who gives a percentage or truth mixed with some fallacies.

Example, he says that there are no malevolent ET's/aliens. *cough* bullshyte.

Colonel Major Sergeant Bob dead has said in an interview that Anunnaki walk the halls of the Pentagon, and that they are at a base in Dimona israel.

 

KERRY CASSIDY: ET INTERVENTION ON EARTH

 

The same can then said of those claiming that all reptilians are regressive. There apparently lots of different races and only a sub section that is interfering with life on Earth

 

The point Greer makes is that if there were any entities that wanted to wipe out human life on earth then they would have done so already

 

Whats the key points from that video 

[northern star]

12 minutes ago, mdx said:

In reply to Northern Star

 

there have been numerous alien contact events but they just do not receive widespread media coverage - UFO landing at the Ruwa school in Zimbabwe, 1994, Rendlesham Forrest, UFO School incident at Broad Haven. Multiple UFO sightings like the Phoenix Lights, Radar tracking by military planes. Dubiously edited NASA footage showing weird objects and artificial structured on the Moon. Reports of UFOs in WW2 known as Foo Fighters. There was even an alleged crash a few days ago just outside of Rio in Brazil - I forget the name of the village. 

 

Bottom line is is that the mainstream media heavily controls what information is put out there and in turn public perception. Anything that will be too disruptive and cause ppl to deviate from official narratives (science/tech, religion, political etc) will not be featured and/or discredited. E.g. In China the media report that foreigners are the cause of Covid 19. There are many ancient artefacts are difficult to explain but these do not garner publicity since it would deviate from the idea of real civilisation spawning from Christianity 

 

Thanks mdx. I am aware of those things and the usual cover ups by the media. Ive seen plenty of UFO footage, but my point is Ive never seen a shred of evidence of aliens. People have their own filming facilities and the ability to make their own youtubes or spread stuff widely, outside of the mainstream media, to capture these entities. But nobody ever has. 

 

Also there have been numerous whistleblowers from Area 51, and the Deep Underground Military Bases, and no photographic evidence has emerged of actual alien life forms.

 

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by northern star

[Messenger]

I agree MDX that if they wanted to wipe us out they could but it seems there is definitely negative entities that are assaulting humanity via various methods and we don't know for sure if they are only demonic or also alien.

I believe it is two factions, one demonic from a lower plane, and some alien's from this plane/dimension but from other parts of the universe who have developed advanced travel capabilities. Search youtube for Mark McCandlish Interstellar Travel Zero Point Energy.

I have not watched this entire video but she mentions the Anunnaki at the Pentagon and at Dimona israel.

The video of Sergeant Major Colonel Bob Dean is on her channel titled Twilight of the Good ol Boys where he and Clifford Stone are interviewed.

[mdx]

3 hours ago, RobinJ said:

I believe Alex Jones started out with a good heart and intention to expose truth, however, somewhere along the line in recent years I feel the 'powers that be' got at him and turned him, ( probably with death threats) which in turn makes his stuff less credible now and of course it then makes it easier for folks to cry 'conspiracy theory' to everything rather than to follow the thread to proof with a 'what if...' mindset. Use your own judgement, dont rely on others, because EVERYONE will have their own opinion and biases no matter how enlightened they are. Even me ;-)

 

Alex Jones is interesting since he really was ahead of the game re Bilderberg, elites way before the internet even. I remember the days when we only had 4 channels and he would be featured late night on BBC2 programmes (when it was really the documentary driven alternative to BBC1 and head on with C4) and it was always as part of what's going on in weirder states across the pond. I don't know if he became part of the elites per se but I think when one dedicated their whole life to a cause and it eventually takes off it does a lot for ones ego and financial security long term. He is a sensationalist and caters very well to that portion of America that are into these things. Similar to how Icke's following tend to feel disenfranchised by the ruling system, leaning a bit towards the right. On the whole its never the rich & successful that are into his work. I like the way he connects the dots and appreciate the metaphysical side more 

[mdx]

The one thing (actually person) that puzzles me somewhat  is John Podesta:

Is hiding something and clearly has control over the media - see Pizza gate 

Yet has been trying to expose the UFO files that US have. See various TV interviews. Greer confirms that Clinton/Podesta have been denied access . Even Obama diverted the question when asked on Jimmy Kimmel turning it into a joke but his eyes told a different story

 

My question is where does Podesta rank in terms of power - clearly he has enough clout to get away with dodgy stuff but doesn't have knowledge of ETs, access to DUMBs...

Probably on PM, world leader level? But that's still no slouch. Presumably the ppl working on Special Access Programmes have clearance higher then those of Podesta, Clintons, Epstein's & his billionaire friends. 

Edited May 17, 2020 by mdx

[northern star]

He's clearly been a highly influential person at the heart of government for many years. He was the first person to inform Bill Clinton of the death of JFK Jr in 1999.

 

https://apnews.com/6a8996bdd429fe72f6511b023ca0ba12

[Sentient Being]

On 5/16/2020 at 6:12 PM, Oskar15 said:

yes, just ufology in general really. Its an avenue I have not yet explored - thanks for the recommendations @A-chan 

 

Alex Collier and Richard Dolan have plenty of insight too. Lots of videos on YouTube.

[mdx]

2 hours ago, northern star said:

He's clearly been a highly influential person at the heart of government for many years. He was the first person to inform Bill Clinton of the death of JFK Jr in 1999.

 

https://apnews.com/6a8996bdd429fe72f6511b023ca0ba12

 

Yea my only thought was that someone such as Podesta being so high up, influential and able to manoeuvre the mainstream press away from negative publicity and allegations (Pizza gate) should be someone briefed on the basics at least of UFO matter/special access programs? The only reason why he hasn't presumably  is either someone higher up doesn't like him (due to his alleged extra curricular activities see Pizza gate) or perhaps as they think he would end up leaking sensitive info out. Clinton was allegedly a big cocaine user. Maybe anyone read into the UFO matter at a high level needs to live up to a certain level of living on a personal level before they are read in. Greer says that those that are likely to leak out info and talk won't be briefed. It would be absolutely hilarious is Trump finds out everything - it would be on Twitter the following week!