Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[zarkov]

5 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Here we go, its kicking off, China on the bounce:

 

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6227755789001

 

 

The globalist dead cat on the table - we all know its coming. These unimaginative cretins never had anything constructive to offer ever.

Loosing at chess > trash the board!

 

 

[Mr H]

Nice people who care about you.

 

Close small businesses for over a year then increase their taxes. Really desperate to kill the economy.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9206985/Rishi-Sunak-targets-business-tax-rises-plug-400bn-pandemic-black-hole.html

[zarkov]

Yet another chart with ONS figures - @Concerned Citizen I concede the population for E&W will differ slightly but as you mention they are indicative of the same overall trend.

 

source https://twitter.com/DanStevens1103/status/1355587619338543104

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

 

This battle we are engaged in our time is nothing new. Nor is the fact that the wisdom of our forefathers has been largely ignored. Jefferson would be labelled antivax and antisemite with statements as these in 2021. His social network accounts would be deplatformed.

[zarkov]

I'd just like to make a recommendation to those who do feel the weight of depression during this time.

It isn't much but it sometimes can help.

 

HOLD YOUR HEAD UP HIGH

it changes your outlook/perspective. I read a few years ago that it can have a a positive impact and when you think about it, it makes sense.

Stooping or looking down continually causes neck tension >> anxiety, serving to magnify the mental trauma these gaslightling bastards are intent on dishing out.

Self explanatory I know, but sometimes we (the collective "we" not the commy "we") forget with all this kerfuffle.

 

Edited February 1, 2021 by zarkov

[zarkov]

11 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

This battle we are engaged in our time is nothing new. Nor is the fact that the wisdom of our forefathers has been largely ignored. Jefferson would be labelled antivax and antisemite with statements as these in 2021. His social network accounts would be deplatformed.

 

Yep - even medical literature that I have perused over the years, some dating back over a century had proponents that stated the same grave doubts of what would occur if the medical establishment ever got control of the narrative.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2020.........................?

 

 

[Ergo Storm]

3 hours ago, FrankVitali said:

 

 

Oh yes that is pure brilliance.

 

haha thats made my day zarkov

 

 

 

I'm Lovin' It

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

47 minutes ago, zarkov said:

 

Yep - even medical literature that I have perused over the years, some dating back over a century had proponents that stated the same grave doubts of what would occur if the medical establishment ever got control of the narrative.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2020.........................?

 

 

Boggles the mind to think of how many battles for safer food and safer medicine that were never fought to bring us to this degenerated state of affairs. Honestly I walk through a typical supermarket and am totally amazed at how many poisons are stocking the shelves. Its not like magazine articles and tv shows have not tried to warn people over the years. The woman's liberation movement was as much about removing the provider of safe food from the homes as it was to offer a false sense of liberation. With both parents working the ground was set for the introduction of toxic processed foods. I eat safe and healthy foods but the time I devote to the preparation of these foods is considerable. Most people are seduced by the illusions of safe food made by process because of the convenience. Having kids locked up all day sitting in a crowded classroom for 12 years on average has not helped either. The adults emerging from this heartless and unhealthy process are another reason little pharma became big pharma. The lack of exercise and bad air and bad psychology in public schools has sickened and weakened our resolve to resist tyranny. Its all by design and far too many bought into it. Reversing this trend will require a radicl change of ideas in this regard. Big pharma and big med can be brought down to size but are people willing to make the sacrifices required to make it happen.

[Ziggy Sawdust]

This is encouraging.

 

1 In 7 Brits Believe There Is A Huge Coronavirus Cover-Up Involving Politicians, Scientists And Journalists (yahoo.com)

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/novavax-submits-vaccine-for-approval-as-ottawa-seeks-eu-reassurances-on-export-rules-1.5289719

 

Somebody wake me up I must be dreaming. When have we ever seen a product put to market at a king's ransom yet provides nothing? Trillions spent for so-called vaccines that do nothing and are terribly dangerous yet offer no immunity and no protection against the thing they were designed for. To me this is complete insanity. What kind of people defend and fight for the right of these absurdities to exist?.

[DarianF]

52 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Boggles the mind to think of how many battles for safer food and safer medicine that were never fought to bring us to this degenerated state of affairs. Honestly I walk through a typical supermarket and am totally amazed at how many poisons are stocking the shelves. Its not like magazine articles and tv shows have not tried to warn people over the years. The woman's liberation movement was as much about removing the provider of safe food from the homes as it was to offer a false sense of liberation. With both parents working the ground was set for the introduction of toxic processed foods. I eat safe and healthy foods but the time I devote to the preparation of these foods is considerable. Most people are seduced by the illusions of safe food made by process because of the convenience. Having kids locked up all day sitting in a crowded classroom for 12 years on average has not helped either. The adults emerging from this heartless and unhealthy process are another reason little pharma became big pharma. The lack of exercise and bad air and bad psychology in public schools has sickened and weakened our resolve to resist tyranny. Its all by design and far too many bought into it. Reversing this trend will require a radicl change of ideas in this regard. Big pharma and big med can be brought down to size but are people willing to make the sacrifices required to make it happen.

 

Let's not forget water fluoridation and how many products it has leached into ( https://fluoridealert.org/issues/sources/ ).

 

 

[DarianF]

"The fast moving UK strain". What a bunch of shite.

 

 

[DarianF]

Lockdown of Victoria's public housing towers during COVID crisis breached human rights, ombudsman finds

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-17/lockdown-public-housing-towers-breached-human-rights-ombudsman/12991162

[wideawake]

2 hours ago, zarkov said:

I'd just like to make a recommendation to those who do feel the weight of depression during this time.

It isn't much but it sometimes can help.

 

HOLD YOUR HEAD UP HIGH

it changes your outlook/perspective. I read a few years ago that it can have a a positive impact and when you think about it, it makes sense.

Stooping or looking down continually causes neck tension >> anxiety, serving to magnify the mental trauma these gaslightling bastards are intent on dishing out.

Self explanatory I know, but sometimes we (the collective "we" not the commy "we") forget with all this kerfuffle.

 

 

And I would even go farther to say: "Do not let these bastards get to you, live your life the best you can and do not worry about what you cannot control."

I've learned a long time ago that keeping a positive attitude and having faith in your daily life will bring you a brighter future as opposed to seeing dark all the time.

I gave up watching tv/news quite a while ago because of Convid, it is their intent... to keep you in stagnation.

 

Be happy and live it to the fullest... without the vaccine. 

Cheers!

[Ergo Storm]

Was ill over the weekend.  Now fine.  Big deal.  I trust the immune system that is the result of two million years of evolution and has faced and seen off far worse than Covid-19, not some jumped-up politician.

[EnigmaticWorld]

[zArk]

11 hours ago, Morpheus said:

That's a frightening and shockingly poor decision if I do say so myself. The rationale is appalling, since when does the government thinks it can tell people what is best for them? Fuckin done with these Sabbatean weirdo's and this transhumanist agenda. 

Karl lentz has demonstrated through court that children are the domain of the government /state. However the governmemt has no claim over your property.

Property rights overrule state gov ,  your offsprimg are your property.

 

At court the word Children is a loaded word never use it 

 

This has been proven time after time 

 

Seeking a common law courts order for an exemption should be possible for your property but not through a nisi prius court or through the mayors office or the local council. 

[Ergo Storm]

1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

They want us to call up a posse and hunt the miscreant down.

 

I'll deputise zArk and Ziggy Sawdust.  I've got the horses ready, boys.  Yeehaa!

[Liberty]

2 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

Let's not forget water fluoridation and how many products it has leached into ( https://fluoridealert.org/issues/sources/ ).

 

 

Thanks 

[Ergo Storm]

On 1/30/2021 at 4:05 PM, Illmatic said:

 

I agree and I think this is what a lot of "truthers" don't understand about politics as well. They think because someone makes some concessions in an argument and doesn't come out all guns blazing immediately they are automatically a "shill".

 

It may be admirable for someone to come out swinging, laying out the whole agenda as they see it including things they suspect but ultimately can't prove. It takes a lot of balls, that's true, but unfortunately in a political sense it's shooting yourself in the foot, all it does is make it easy for your opponents to ignore and dismiss you.

 

I appreciate this post, thanks.  To be honest, I don't know who is right and who is wrong here, so I'm not getting at anybody.  It could be that Ziggy Sawdust turns out to be right.  All I am saying is that, based on my knowledge of science (which is roughly A-level standard, so not much to speak of) and based on what I have seen, read and heard, I think there is a real virus of some sort and it's apparent that some people are ill. 

 

I also take the view, as you have just outlined, that even if there is a basis for saying the virus is fictitious, it is still advisable to be cautious about it.  Thus, if I had the same view as Ziggy Sawdust, the way I would put it across to, say, a court of law or a television journalist, is something like: "Some experts are raising question marks about whether the viral isolates are scientifically-valid, but let us assume there is a discrete, identifiable virus, it's all been exaggerated anyway and the official measures are wholly disproportionate against the real-world risk".

 

The advantage of this is that I am attacking the enemy at its weakest point and putting the argument across in a way that sounds like I know what I'm going on about and that people can sympathise with.  I'll catch more flies that way.  If I just say, 'There's no virus', most people will dismiss me as a nutter and stop listening, even if it's true, and the enemy can easily discredit me.

 

Proportionality is the basis of a legal case against all this - and it would be a strong case.  Simple denial is not the basis of a case unless you have very strong evidence at your disposal.  By denying there is a virus, you are raising the bar of proof to a level that probably can't be crossed.  It's an ambitious argument, given the forces on the other side who aver that there is a virus and will stake their professional reputations on it.

 

However, my end conclusion is the same as Ziggy Sawdust: that's it's all a hoax and a scam. I just arrive at this conclusion differently.  I take the view that we're dealing with exaggeration and hysteria, almost-certainly on purpose in some cases as part of some sort of agenda, or maybe a number of conflicting agendas, and in other cases it's just incompetence and the usual story of useful idiots being duped and taken in.

[zarkov]

2 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

This is encouraging.

 

1 In 7 Brits Believe There Is A Huge Coronavirus Cover-Up Involving Politicians, Scientists And Journalists (yahoo.com)

I think its encouraging too. There is a lot of overlap there and I get the feeling that the number of those suspicious overall is greater than they found. By breaking the data up it can be diffused so to speak and can carry a message that supports convention.

[Liberty]

This is from a year ago predicting the worlds population decline. When we’re getting told it is rising but it just feels like it because of immigration. Pushing people into cities and smaller spaces so they’re easier to control. 
 

 

Then there are 11,000 “experts” declaring a state of emergency with the world’s population leading to a lack of resources before the plandemic struck. 

Put that in contrast to the great barrington declaration which I think is 5,000 to see just how outnumbered they are. 11,000 seems a lot. How do you find 11,000 cunts?  Well they did.  That’s a web of 11,000 people actively on board to the reduce the worlds population not just mindless drones or yes men. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-05/scientists-call-for-population-control-in-mass-climate-alarm

 

 

[shadowmoon]

3 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

This is encouraging.

 

1 In 7 Brits Believe There Is A Huge Coronavirus Cover-Up Involving Politicians, Scientists And Journalists (yahoo.com)

 

Those from ethnic minority backgrounds are particularly likely to report believing conspiracy-related statements, according to researchers.

 

They didn't get as much of the mandatory programming British kids got?

 

 

[zarkov]

37 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

I appreciate this post, thanks.  To be honest, I don't know who is right and who is wrong here, so I'm not getting at anybody.  It could be that Ziggy Sawdust turns out to be right.  All I am saying is that, based on my knowledge of science (which is roughly A-level standard, so not much to speak of) and based on what I have seen, read and heard, I think there is a real virus of some sort and it's apparent that some people are ill. 

 

I also take the view, as you have just outlined, that even if there is a basis for saying the virus is fictitious, it is still advisable to be cautious about it.  Thus, if I had the same view as Ziggy Sawdust, the way I would put it across to, say, a court of law or a television journalist, is something like: "Some experts are raising question marks about whether the viral isolates are scientifically-valid, but let us assume there is a discrete, identifiable virus, it's all been exaggerated anyway and the official measures are wholly disproportionate against the real-world risk".

 

The advantage of this is that I am attacking the enemy at its weakest point and putting the argument across in a way that sounds like I know what I'm going on about and that people can sympathise with.  I'll catch more flies that way.  If I just say, 'There's no virus', most people will dismiss me as a nutter and stop listening, even if it's true, and the enemy can easily discredit me.

 

Proportionality is the basis of a legal case against all this - and it would be a strong case.  Simple denial is not the basis of a case unless you have very strong evidence at your disposal.  By denying there is a virus, you are raising the bar of proof to a level that probably can't be crossed.  It's an ambitious argument, given the forces on the other side who aver that there is a virus and will stake their professional reputations on it.

 

However, my end conclusion is the same as Ziggy Sawdust: that's it's all a hoax and a scam. I just arrive at this conclusion differently.  I take the view that we're dealing with exaggeration and hysteria, almost-certainly on purpose in some cases as part of some sort of agenda, or maybe a number of conflicting agendas, and in other cases it's just incompetence and the usual story of useful idiots being duped and taken in.

 

I get that and agree somewhat although I see no evidence to suggest that a pathogenic viral particle has ever been proven to exist. Stephen Lanka's work demonstrates that.

I agree that middle ground is the viable target so to speak for us who are dissentious towards the mainstream narrative as it appears to be the mainstream's target also, where those are most likely to be on the fence and therefore swayable.

My opinion is that what is perceived as a pathogenic particle is an exosome and they are endogenous particulates with a multitude of functions, they can convey information throughout the body, on release/purge from the body they can also communicate information to  other organisms (eg warning of a toxic insult), they can act as solvents mopping up toxins that other bodily functions miss and in the same way transfer this information to other organisms on excretion.

The mutation of "virus" particles can be explained by variability of the toxic or other insult and shows the body to be an innately intelligent system.

The premise of viral pathogenicity is also at odds with terrain theory whereas exosomal activity supports terrain theory.

Avoidance of isolation and purification of a complete intact particle is intentional imo as it would then be possible to prove conclusively that pathogenicity is as mythical as proponent's of terrain theory suggest.

 

[Liberty]

3 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

 

Those from ethnic minority backgrounds are particularly likely to report believing conspiracy-related statements, according to researchers.

 

They didn't get as much of the mandatory programming British kids got?

 

 

Could be to shame them into getting it too.