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Likewise getting weird reactions discussing this with people I know. I'm still a minority. Most of my friends just think they're part of a sensible effort to halt a deadly virus. Mostly this is the women. I never get bogged down in actual arguments. My theory is they work long hours, switch on the news and just take it all at face value. Many people don't have the time to question and just assume so many people can't be wrong. As to some I know I who swear they won't have a vaccine, I remain skeptical. A good many will no doubt give in under pressure so I expect to be a minority. I sometimes explain that not catching colds as people have for centuries should eventually make the common cold far more potent. Yet it seems neither the reason or will to challenge is present. Many are nice people but have the backbones of a proverbial jelly fish.

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A few weeks back someone posted a link to an ONS map showing deaths attributed to Covid by area.

 

The area I live in has quite an elderly population & at least 3 care homes, so I suspect there was a high early vaccine take up.

 

The map showed 8 deaths to the end of November. In December that jumped to 24.

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4 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

Likewise getting weird reactions discussing this with people I know. I'm still a minority. Most of my friends just think they're part of a sensible effort to halt a deadly virus. Mostly this is the women. I never get bogged down in actual arguments. My theory is they work long hours, switch on the news and just take it all at face value. Many people don't have the time to question and just assume so many people can't be wrong. As to some I know I who swear they won't have a vaccine, I remain skeptical. A good many will no doubt give in under pressure so I expect to be a minority. I sometimes explain that not catching colds as people have for centuries should eventually make the common cold far more potent. Yet it seems neither the reason or will to challenge is present. Many are nice people but have the backbones of a proverbial jelly fish.

At this point if I talk to anyone that believes whats going on I just switch off and not engage in conversation with them regarding Lockdowns. I just see them as lost.

 

At this stage its only them that can open their mind to alternative viewpoints and research whats REALLY going. I feel and saying this but I will not stop people from getting a vaccine that could possibly harm them. I will just say ''I won't be getting it'' if they don't ask why then I don't engage with them. Its the best way because debating with people that are mentally unwell (thats what I call it now) is futile.

 

Mentally unwell - As in unquestioning, obedient and lack of any critical thinking skills. These people are always very irrational. Nothing can help them BUT THEMSELVES. 

 

I genuinely believe BBC News cans ay ''We are going to kill/imprison everyone who doesn't believe in covid-19'' and a good percentage of the population would agree. 

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6 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

Likewise getting weird reactions discussing this with people I know. I'm still a minority. Most of my friends just think they're part of a sensible effort to halt a deadly virus. Mostly this is the women. I never get bogged down in actual arguments. My theory is they work long hours, switch on the news and just take it all at face value. Many people don't have the time to question and just assume so many people can't be wrong. As to some I know I who swear they won't have a vaccine, I remain skeptical. A good many will no doubt give in under pressure so I expect to be a minority. I sometimes explain that not catching colds as people have for centuries should eventually make the common cold far more potent. Yet it seems neither the reason or will to challenge is present. Many are nice people but have the backbones of a proverbial jelly fish.

But many people have been out of work so had time to look at it. Those who have been at work are probably the least fearful. Also the ones who have the seen the world empty whilst travelling to and from work whilst everyone locked themselves away 

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17 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

Two pro vaxx shills. 

 

 

 

Been a lot of conservatives jumping on board this Astra Zenca EU thing & Brexit today, think is down to Farage.

I unfollowed a few people I thought were cool, but suddenly coming out all pro death.🤢

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11 minutes ago, TheAwakened said:

At this point if I talk to anyone that believes whats going on I just switch off and not engage in conversation with them regarding Lockdowns. I just see them as lost.

 

At this stage its only them that can open their mind to alternative viewpoints and research whats REALLY going. I feel and saying this but I will not stop people from getting a vaccine that could possibly harm them. I will just say ''I won't be getting it'' if they don't ask why then I don't engage with them. Its the best way because debating with people that are mentally unwell (thats what I call it now) is futile.

 

Mentally unwell - As in unquestioning, obedient and lack of any critical thinking skills. These people are always very irrational. Nothing can help them BUT THEMSELVES. 

 

I genuinely believe BBC News cans ay ''We are going to kill/imprison everyone who doesn't believe in covid-19'' and a good percentage of the population would agree. 

no likes left to give -  this is the way I see it too

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1 hour ago, BridgeBuilder said:

 

^ This is what I was thinking as well.

 

Next Protest!

It better be on a sunny day for obvious reason but all lay down on the pavement and if pigs ask you, we'll all say "We are acting like we have Covid per the government propaganda poster." 😆

 

Reminds me of the Radiohead video for the song Just 🤣

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

They've never been pro Palestine, was started by Zio Starmers lot.

Specifically to shut down any opposition to Israel.

Strange. I've seen them as counter demonstrators at countless demos standing with Antifa and other leftist mobs - the Palestinian flags were an absolute given.

 

Groups like Britain First and the EDL and Pegida UK (who they were opposing) were always flying Israeli flags.

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In real time, any mention of this theme to me is akin to waving a red flag at a bull. Today I delivered a blistering lecture on the spur of the moment about parallels. Pointing out how many people suffered starvation in WW2 and endured concentration camps, invasion, occupation and partisan warfare. And yet, on a daily basis we hear about this supposed threat from bacteria. No comparison to 20 million deaths in WW2 really. I've no idea why the population has become so soft and feeble-minded. I mean, AIDS killed a surprising number of people and genuinely posed a threat to life. The other day I chanced upon the fact AIDS killed Kendo Nagasaki's manager as well as Roddy Mcdowel. Yet there was no mass hysteria or suggestion we should all wear one-piece condom outfits. A much tougher generation I guess.

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@sickofallthebollocks DM version of story of care homes deaths. All covid. Patients had begun to receive vaccine but most probably had covid before it! Comments moderated
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9198345/24-elderly-residents-die-Hampshire-second-tragedy-Midlands-leaves-nine-dead.html#article-9198345

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3 minutes ago, Liberty said:

@sickofallthebollocks DM version of story of care homes deaths. All covid. Patients had begun to receive vaccine but most probably had covid before it! Comments turned off 
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9198345/24-elderly-residents-die-Hampshire-second-tragedy-Midlands-leaves-nine-dead.html#article-9198345

Yeah it seems to be kicking off again at all the care homes doesn't it liberty?  No surprise the comments are all turned off the 77th brigade boys are probably too busy anal swabbing eachother at tea break.
(and loving it)

 

 

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A search on youtube for Dolores Cahill produces an unexpected result listed as the first video.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dolores+cahill

I'm always open to considering people's views where ever they come from and so although it wasn't the result I expected to find I decided to watch it anyway. The video is partly titled 'How closely does vaccination mimic infection?' and has information delivered by Prof Alex Richter through the Uni of Birmingham's yt platform.

I'd recommend using the search query link or doing your own search on yt to see if it produces the same result yourself, then to watch the whole video and make your own mind up about what you think. I just wanted to pass along something I found ironic that involves listening to the corners of the video.

Cutting Corners
Listen carefully to the first 22 seconds of the video, then listen to the last part from 11:28 (A second or two earlier if needed) on wards to the end . Does this to you say anything about what corners might have been cut in terms of what they do and don't know about the safety and efficacy of the vaccine?

I'm just listening to the Professor without saying anything conclusive and thinking about what she has said herself...

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24 minutes ago, Saved said:

Strange. I've seen them as counter demonstrators at countless demos standing with Antifa and other leftist mobs - the Palestinian flags were an absolute given.

 

Groups like Britain First and the EDL and Pegida UK (who they were opposing) were always flying Israeli flags.

 

Jews control both sides of course, but Hope not Hate are definitely Zionist.

but paint themselves as antifascist leftist.

 

https://gilad.online/writings/gilad-atzmon-hope-not-hate.html

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From https://principia-scientific.com/horrific-spike-in-over-80s-death-after-covid-vaccine-rollout/

Horrific Spike In Over 80’S Death AFTER COVID Vaccine Rollout

Published on January 28, 2021

Written by John O'Sullivan

 

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Twitter evidences more citizens are waking up to the real possibility that the UK COVID19 vaccine program may be harming more people than the ‘virus’ itself, as the latest graph above reveals.

The elderly were the first to get the shots and now are paying the price with a death spike proving the vaccine may be more deadly than the virus.

Below we reproduce a Twitter thread to demonstrate the rise in awareness that we have been lied to and our lives dispensable.

 

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The rich globalist elite make no secret that they favor drastic population reductions, especially among the elderly, to reduce the tax/pension burden. The rich and decision makers are open and frank that this is likely a pre-planned cull, because old people now “live too long.”

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Read the details in The Telegraph. 

Keep in mind that head of the World Health Organization (WHO), which has mercilessly pushed out the COVID fear porn,  Faces Allegations Of Genocide.

My own opinion is that we are likely ruled by self-serving psychopaths. I’m happy for anyone to try to prove me wrong.

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Lockdowns and COVID Vaccines Are to Control, Weaken & Kill Us

Absent any concerns for the additional harms their measures are inflicting on us, politicians around the world appear to be serving the interests of the billionaire class. The ultra rich have seen their wealth massively increase during this fake pandemic while the rest of us have endured abject misery with no end in sight.

In Britain, Prime Minister Boris Johnson now pushes for Lockdowns till September. Johnson now faces a major rebellion as his a six month extension comes with no exit strategy to national lockdowns. All to fight a virus with a mortality rate of less than 0.3 percent. As in other countries, there is no cost/benefit analysis. Our leaders aren’t insane, they know what they are doing. They simply do not care because they are shills for their rich paymasters.

Our political leaders pretend they are wedded to the precautionary principle, which is insane just to limit the spread of a seasonal common cold/flu while wilfully ignoring the growing millions suffering unending economic deprivations and mental anguish associated with job losses.

On Twitter, Children’s Commissioner @annelongfield setting out serious harms occurring right now to children around  the UK “to get schools open before Easter, need a plan” says @ChildrensComm on @BBCr4today

Those doing quite happily sat at home on furlough and fortunate not to be among the 40 percent of the population facing job losses and more income cuts should cease in continually minimising the ‘unintended consequences’ of a strategy that ballooned out of a simple 15 day shutdown to ‘flatten the curve.’

Yet the stats for mortality rates for the whole of 2020 prove little, if any significant increase in excess mortality. Our own analysis of the official UK government data shows only 13,844 actual recorded ‘infections’ of COVID-19 during 2020, as shown here. [1]

Worst for poorest, families who “need hope and clarity about what comes next” with what more than 20,000 medical and science professionals insist is a wholly disproportionate response akin to panic measures, not science.

Those concerned experts are signing the Great Barrington Declaration in increasing numbers as the tragedy sees no end in sight. They tell us:

“As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.”

The mission creep policies of politicians fly in the face of numbers actually shown to have been listed as dying from COVID19. The death rate in the UK for 2020 was 10.3 per 1000 people. The last time this happened was 2003. In 2000 the rate hit 10.4 per 1000 people. There has been NO PANDEMIC.

ONS reported total death figures England and Wales:

 506,790 in 2013,

 501,424 in 2014,

 529,655 in 2015,

525,048 in 2016,

 533,253 in 2017,

541,589 in 2018,

530,841 in 2019,

542,463 in 2020 – that’s 874 more than 2018.

Was there a pandemic that year?

Life is a whole box of risks, we can’t spend our lives in fear of those risks or we’d never get out of bed and die from the issues that would cause. We didn’t have any of these measures when the Hong Kong flu (a Coronavirus) pandemic hit in 1968 and we are still here.

If one death in 10,000 Covid cases results in lockdown, surely one death in 10,000 vaccines should result in stopping the program, shouldn’t it?

But even the brightest and best in the pharmaceuticals industry are now coming out the say the mass vaccination of a healthy population is not only pointless, it leads to more unpleasant consequences.

We now know that Merck scrapped their own COVID vaccine and they admit it is more effective for most people to simply just catch the virus and recover naturally.

Moreover, we know that the vaccine won’t prevent you getting, or passing on the virus to others. So the purpose of the vaccine and vaccine passports is what exactly?

So, a “vaccine” which doesn’t stop people getting the “virus” or “spreading” it, means no lifting of the idiotic “rules”…. Which can only mean, this isn’t a “vaccine”…..

There’s plenty of questions you need to ask your elected officials. Like: Why does Britain have the highest Covid mortality rates? What happened to the Test and Trace system? Why did the government funnel all the PPE contracts to their crony capitalist buddies?

Some really stinks in government and the people are becoming more agitated at the indifference and apparent profiteering of the top one percent of our society who seem to wish the rest of us would just shut up and ‘take the medicine.’

[1] https://principia-scientific.com/a-bizarre-unlawful-twist-to-our-uk-covid-infections-story/

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33 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Yeah it seems to be kicking off again at all the care homes doesn't it liberty?  No surprise the comments are all turned off the 77th brigade boys are probably too busy anal swabbing eachother at tea break.
(and loving it)

 

 

 

 

edit: wrote a joke then realised it wasn't funny.

 

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Tories under growing pressure over MP who backed Covid deniers | World news | The Guardian

Swayne, a former minister, refused to apologise on Thursday after the emergence of a November interview in which he urged a fringe coronavirus deniers’ group, which has suggested the pandemic could be a hoax, to “persist” in protesting against lockdown.

The Save Our Rights UK group has also published videos promoting the theories of David Icke and Piers Corbyn, as well as an interview in which it is claimed that coronavirus is linked to the QAnon conspiracy and that Madonna revealed her awareness of the pandemic at the 2019 Eurovision song contest.

In a Sky News interview on Thursday, Swayne said the situation had “changed completely with the new variant”, but said his remarks in November were “perfectly legitimate at the time”. He earlier told TalkRadio’s Julia Hartley-Brewer: “We are getting very close to thought crime here, aren’t we?”

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