Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Ergo Storm]

11 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

So, here in Ireland and elsewhere nearly a year into this "crisis" we are now discussing "zero Covid" policy. It seems there is a big push on to require 10 days of hotel quarantine at your own expense in addition to a negative PCR test in order to travel anywhere in the EU, making it de facto impossible.

 

We are also seeing a shift on mask policy, with the extremely airtight oxygen-depriving FFP2 masks now mandatory in Germany and being discussed in Spain. It seems to be another step on the way to making masks mandatory everywhere at all times as soon as you leave the house, and a specific type of state-approved mask no less.

 

Seems pretty clear at least to me that they are now trying to break our spirit so we will more readily accept the vaccine and all that comes with it. I can't see any other explanation.

 

By their own calculations, they need somewhere around 90% of the adult population to accept the vaccine.  This, in effect, requires them to make it mandatory.  Mandatory =/= compulsory.  I don't believe it will be made officially compulsory in so many words; it will be more a case of having to say you've had the vaccine to do certain things, which means that those of us who don't have the vaccine will still be complying with the overall regime in the sense that we're having to answer their questions, even if lying.

[Illmatic]

38 minutes ago, Velma said:

According to the corporate/government/media narrative, this alleged ‘virus’ is not going away, ever. Rather, they claim it is continuing to mutate at an alarming rate and spreading faster with more fatal results.

 

They don’t even know if their vaccines are effective, therefore, they are not vaccines, which by definition, provide immunity. So, they have no solution and the disease, supposedly, ramps on unabated.

 

The only answer they have is for a “global lockdown” to remain in perpetuity and for socially-distanced people to wear masks, for the rest of their lives. That is not living, in any sense of the word.

 

It is a recipe for a social, political and economic calamity, leading to hopelessness and lawlessness, worldwide. People will have nothing left to lose, literally. The WEC says, ‘we shall own nothing and be happy.’

 

For that experiment to be a successful, they better have stockpiles of Soma, otherwise, the victims will recognise their unending servitude to the ruling ‘elite’ and the slaves will revolt against their oppressors.

 

Once, they appeased us with ‘bread & circuses’ but the circus has been cancelled and the bread is scarce for many. As the saying goes, “a hungry man is an angry man.” They are pushing people over the edge.

 

How could it be possible to contain desperate populations in this open prison indefinitely? Are soldiers going to shoot ‘rule breakers’ to save lives? We would simply burn it down, the whole stinking system.

 

 

 

Right Velma, the people can only take so much before they go completely nuts. It seems to be going that way in the Netherlands, but that has probably been sparked off by the collapse of their government and feelings of panic and hopelessness.

 

I repeatedly see on here and elsewhere that they want unrest as an excuse to bring in martial law - which makes sense to an extent but it relies on the police forces and army being prepared to go to war with their own people, for an indefinite period of time. I know this has been happening already to an extent but I don't know, especially in countries like Ireland and the UK I couldn't see that lasting very long before the tide turns and we end up with military coups rather than effective martial law.

 

It all depends ultimately I believe on money. If they can find a way to transition to a cashless society relatively easily and peacefully without it hitting large numbers of people in the pocket, the reset might be a success, but it's hard to see how that's going to happen. A friend of my father's is an economist and he thinks the WEF are idiots, basically marching us and themselves merrily off a cliff. My father is a data scientist and thinks if the bankers really believe they can transition the entire world economy to a digital blockchain system, they're nuts.

 

It's worth remembering that although these people are for sure evil, they're not always smart. You only have to look at the Jeffrey Epstein saga to realise that, or the CIA trying to use LSD for mind control in project MKULTRA when it ended up having exactly the opposite effect.

 

Maybe WWIII is just as if not more likely than a Great Reset. Either way we face a very uncertain future.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Illmatic

[zArk]

3 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

It isn't the kids, young adults or middle aged workers that are the disease factories, its the pensioners.

dunno, i dont think anyone is a disease factory and contagion hasnt been proved either.

 

 

[Oakwise]

9 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

That explains everything. I calculate at a rate of 2 farts per person per day the fart R value is 1.5. We have to work together to bring this R value right down to below the threshold of 1 farts per person per day. Keep the NHS not busy, eat less beans today, do your part. Stay safe. 

 

 

 

I think one fart is one fart too many. We'll just have to do away with the digestive system altogether. 

[Orange Alert]

8 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

So, here in Ireland and elsewhere nearly a year into this "crisis" we are now discussing "zero Covid" policy. It seems there is a big push on to require 10 days of hotel quarantine at your own expense in addition to a negative PCR test in order to travel anywhere in the EU, making it de facto impossible.

 

We are also seeing a shift on mask policy, with the extremely airtight oxygen-depriving FFP2 masks now mandatory in Germany. It seems to be another step on the way to making masks mandatory everywhere at all times as soon as you leave the door, and a specific type of state-approved mask no less.

 

Seems pretty clear at least to me that they are now trying to break our spirit so we will more readily accept the vaccine and all that comes with it. I can't see any other explanation.

 

It is getting very serious in the UK, full-on police state. Arriving passengers being detained for 10 days, from certain countries, at their own expense. Then there is the prospect of everyone coming into the country held until they have a negative test.  First it will be business hotels for arrivals and we will end up with isolation camps for anyone who is seen to be a biohazard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/covid-quarantine-hotels-uk-travel-news-b901025.html

Air passengers coming into lockdown Britain face 10 days of quarantine in hotels, Boris Johnson confirmed today.

Under plans being decided by ministers over the next 24 hours, some travellers will be put on buses and driven directly to isolation centres.

At the very least, the measure will apply to Britons returning from countries such as Brazil and South Africa, which are known to have dangerous new mutations of the coronavirus.

But ministers are not ruling out extending the plan to all passengers and countries to defend against the risk of another mutation that nobody yet knows about.

The Prime Minister spoke of the need to defend the “immense effort by the NHS” in vaccinating the millions of elderly people, key workers and those most vulnerable to the disease.

We have to realise that there is at least the theoretical risk that there is a new variant, a vaccine-busting variant coming in,” he said. “So we will need to keep that under control.”

The dramatic move to defend the UK from more deadly mutations of Covid-19 is by far the toughest border measure yet.  

The key question to be settled by ministers, who are in meetings with scientists today, is whether to target the measure only at passengers who have visited countries such as Brazil and South Africa or whether to target passengers from other countries.  

Hawks in the Cabinet, including Health Secretary Matt Hancock, say mutations could exist in countries that lack advanced genome monitoring without anybody realising the threat exists until it arrives. 

The most severe option is to insist on quarantine for all passengers, which would require thousands of hotel rooms and monitoring. Passengers will have to pay their hotel bills and will also have to take a negative test for coronavirus before they are released.

[Illmatic]

7 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

By their own calculations, they need somewhere around 90% of the adult population to accept the vaccine.  This, in effect, requires them to make it mandatory.  Mandatory =/= compulsory.  I don't believe it will be made officially compulsory in so many words; it will be more a case of having to say you've had the vaccine to do certain things, which means that those of us who don't have the vaccine will still be complying with the overall regime in the sense that we're having to answer their questions, even if lying.

 

Yes, there will be all sorts of black market vaccine certificates etc for sure, at least in the beginning.

 

Sadly I think a lot of poor deluded fools don't want a "new normal", they just see the vaccine as a way out. God knows how they will react when the truth finally hits them that the plan is never to go back to normal. We may be getting record suicides.

[Noctua]

5 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

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It all depends ultimately I believe on money. If they can find a way to transition to a cashless society easily and peacefully without it hitting large numbers of people in the pocket, the reset might be a success, but it's hard to see how that's going to happen. A friend of my father's is an economist and he thinks the WEF are idiots, basically marching us and themselves merrily off a cliff. My father is a data scientist and thinks if the bankers really believe they can transition the entire world economy to a digital blockchain system, they're nut.

 

Maybe WWIII is just as if not more likely than a Great Reset. Either way we face a very uncertain future.

 

Money pacifies the restless.  There are already rumours circulating that Rishi Sunak will extend the furlough scheme again.  And each extension = longer lockdown.  The young students who have not had a university education this year and not had the opportunity to get those parttime jobs to start earning and help them pay their outrageous accommodation fees (where they have sat in lockdown behind a screen), they are the ones that will riot.  These are the 'best years of their lives' and they aren't allowed to live.

 

The people on the furlough scheme will sit with their 80% pay packet, saving up for their £4,000 cockapoo and watch Dancing on Ice. (apologies to anyone on furlough, but you get my point...)

[Illmatic]

2 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

It is getting very serious in the UK, full-on police state. Arriving passengers being detained for 10 days, from certain countries, at their own expense. Then there is the prospect of everyone coming into the country held until they have a negative test.  First it will be business hotels for arrivals and we will end up with isolation camps for anyone who is seen to be a biohazard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/covid-quarantine-hotels-uk-travel-news-b901025.html

Air passengers coming into lockdown Britain face 10 days of quarantine in hotels, Boris Johnson confirmed today.

Under plans being decided by ministers over the next 24 hours, some travellers will be put on buses and driven directly to isolation centres.

At the very least, the measure will apply to Britons returning from countries such as Brazil and South Africa, which are known to have dangerous new mutations of the coronavirus.

But ministers are not ruling out extending the plan to all passengers and countries to defend against the risk of another mutation that nobody yet knows about.

The Prime Minister spoke of the need to defend the “immense effort by the NHS” in vaccinating the millions of elderly people, key workers and those most vulnerable to the disease.

We have to realise that there is at least the theoretical risk that there is a new variant, a vaccine-busting variant coming in,” he said. “So we will need to keep that under control.”

The dramatic move to defend the UK from more deadly mutations of Covid-19 is by far the toughest border measure yet.  

The key question to be settled by ministers, who are in meetings with scientists today, is whether to target the measure only at passengers who have visited countries such as Brazil and South Africa or whether to target passengers from other countries.  

Hawks in the Cabinet, including Health Secretary Matt Hancock, say mutations could exist in countries that lack advanced genome monitoring without anybody realising the threat exists until it arrives. 

The most severe option is to insist on quarantine for all passengers, which would require thousands of hotel rooms and monitoring. Passengers will have to pay their hotel bills and will also have to take a negative test for coronavirus before they are released.

 

Incredible. It's going to be 1940s Germany all over again, only this time Europe- (and if the globalists get their wish eventually world) wide.

[Illmatic]

8 minutes ago, Noctua said:

 

Money pacifies the restless.  There are already rumours circulating that Rishi Sunak will extend the furlough scheme again.  And each extension = longer lockdown.  The young students who have not had a university education this year and not had the opportunity to get those parttime jobs to start earning and help them pay their outrageous accommodation fees (where they have sat in lockdown behind a screen), they are the ones that will riot.  These are the 'best years of their lives' and they aren't allowed to live.

 

The people on the furlough scheme will sit with their 80% pay packet, saving up for their £4,000 cockapoo and watch Dancing on Ice. (apologies to anyone on furlough, but you get my point...)

 

Very true, but this can't go on forever. Eventually debts will have to be addressed and announcements will have to be made that we are transitioning to a new, fundamentally different financial system. I've yet to see a realistic explanation of what this is going to look like, other than that it will be all-digital and involve a Universal Basic Income.

 

There are other slightly less obvious considerations here. For example according to my father the amount of server power needed to move all financial transactions onto a digital blockchain doesn't and won't exist. He sees it as a fundamental misunderstanding between bankers, big data and big tech. They may individually have it all worked out but are underestimating the infrastructure needed.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Illmatic

[oddsnsods]

6 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

It is getting very serious in the UK, full-on police state. Arriving passengers being detained for 10 days, from certain countries, at their own expense. Then there is the prospect of everyone coming into the country held until they have a negative test.  First it will be business hotels for arrivals and we will end up with isolation camps for anyone who is seen to be a biohazard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/covid-quarantine-hotels-uk-travel-news-b901025.html

Air passengers coming into lockdown Britain face 10 days of quarantine in hotels, Boris Johnson confirmed today.

Under plans being decided by ministers over the next 24 hours, some travellers will be put on buses and driven directly to isolation centres.

At the very least, the measure will apply to Britons returning from countries such as Brazil and South Africa, which are known to have dangerous new mutations of the coronavirus.

But ministers are not ruling out extending the plan to all passengers and countries to defend against the risk of another mutation that nobody yet knows about.

The Prime Minister spoke of the need to defend the “immense effort by the NHS” in vaccinating the millions of elderly people, key workers and those most vulnerable to the disease.

We have to realise that there is at least the theoretical risk that there is a new variant, a vaccine-busting variant coming in,” he said. “So we will need to keep that under control.”

The dramatic move to defend the UK from more deadly mutations of Covid-19 is by far the toughest border measure yet.  

The key question to be settled by ministers, who are in meetings with scientists today, is whether to target the measure only at passengers who have visited countries such as Brazil and South Africa or whether to target passengers from other countries.  

Hawks in the Cabinet, including Health Secretary Matt Hancock, say mutations could exist in countries that lack advanced genome monitoring without anybody realising the threat exists until it arrives. 

The most severe option is to insist on quarantine for all passengers, which would require thousands of hotel rooms and monitoring. Passengers will have to pay their hotel bills and will also have to take a negative test for coronavirus before they are released.

 

At least they haven't stopped you attempting to escape YET.

 

Anyone here live in a slightly less oppressive country or desert island I can come visit for a few years? PM me.

 

[Ergo Storm]

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2021 by Ergo Storm

[Brad the lad]

39 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

the new world has been vetted and authorised

the hegemony is installed

alternatives will be tolerated but never allowed to reach positions of control

 

i really cannot see enough morons suddenly turning against the flow. Those spinning the magic and hypnotism have complete control over them. Unless THC rains down for 40days and nights allowing everyone to breath a suitable sustained dose i cant foresee a change.

 

i dont feel morose or defeatist because i thought this before 2020 and nothing i have seen has altered my perception

 

 

 

They have done ALL this before and have ALL the history handed down from how it played out (unlike us). If you keep mice cagged up and distress them overtime, then you will learn quickly how they react to every situation. I was only thinking today how we all feel this is something new and we are living in a time when this has NEVER happened before. That is possibly true regarding the DNA downgrade they have planned but that really is about it. Everything else has been done before.

 

I'm more inclined to think that during the last Aquarious age they almost certainly fucked with our DNA and it's possible that we have had advanced tech in the past (like what's coming ahead in the near future) and then they destroy everything and start again. It's like a 26,000 year cycle of groundhog day. One full circle of the clock and back to square one again....total control and we know how much they love that.

The sick bastards think they are doing the planet a service with their star maths!

Edited January 25, 2021 by Brad the lad

[Guest]

3 hours ago, The Illuminator said:

 

I'm sorry, what?

 

You promoting vaccines and digital passports.

 

Every else you have said is now tarred.

 

Your card is marked.

Well actually you have got that ENTIRELY ASS UPWARDS, pointless me bothering to put forward any kind of sensible comments here, waste of my time and space.  Pointless.  How dare you be such a wally, my card is marked, ONE WORD - BOLLOCKS.

[Sexpistol50]

1 hour ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Coughing and sneezing is the new farting.

I can't stop thinking of Bob Fleming from the Fast Show

[Odie Hatzcats]

12 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

Eventually debts will have to be addressed

 

Disagree, they will just wipe it. No problem, it is just gone as it never was real anyway!

 

14 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

For example according to my father the amount of server power needed to move all financial transactions onto a digital blockchain doesn't and won't exist.

 

There are vastly more powerful systems than is allowed to the public, they have no issue there.

 

There is one problem which they will need to address and that is the energy to run the system?

 

"the Internet is a predator species that feeds voraciously on a prey, the electric power and soon it will use all the combinded production of this world"

[Ergo Storm]

5 minutes ago, Sexpistol50 said:

I can't stop thinking of Bob Fleming from the Fast Show

 

Bob's got Covid...

 

 

As an aside, notice the rainbow in the background of that video.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Ergo Storm

[Mitochondrial Eve]

This video doesn't necessarily make for the easiest listening but is very revealing from the perspective of a patient on a Covid ward. The lady in question has underlying health issues including a heart and lung condition but was admitted to hospital for a broken leg and damaged spine. She tested negative for Covid prior to admission and only tested positive after being admitted on a "clean" ward. She was moved to a Covid ward despite being asymptomatic and despite her objections.

 

Her account of what has been occurring on the Covid ward is pretty shocking - she is one of 6 patients, of which 4 of them have no symptoms, and all the others are elderly. She tells of how she was asked to observe another patient's vital signs who then died in front of her because the staff were too busy. Whilst she is being interviewed, another patient is calling out desperately for assistance - clearly suffering - but being ignored by staff. The lady being interviewed filmed whilst on the ward but was confronted by police and security and had her phone taken.

 

Her conclusion is that, before being admitted to hospital, she believed the mainstream narrative and had concerns about getting Covid due to her health issues. But now, after her first hand experience of being "treated like an animal" like the other patients, she says that we are not being told the truth by the media and she will help with the campaign for truth.

 

 

Edited January 25, 2021 by Mitochondrial Eve

[Illmatic]

1 minute ago, Odie Hatzcats said:

 

Disagree, they will just wipe it. No problem, it is just gone as it never was real anyway!

 

 

There are vastly more powerful systems than is allowed to the public, they have no issue there.

 

There is one problem which they will need to address and that is the energy to run the system?

 

"the Internet is a predator species that feeds voraciously on a prey, the electric power and soon it will use all the combinded production of this world"

 

Wiping it is a way of addressing it. I've seen these ideas, as well as resetting bank accounts to zero. But this is going to cause mass panic and confusion which is not what they want.

 

And yes, energy is another issue. They can bluster about our green future as much as they want but the reality has always been that green energy is crap and not even close to replacing oil.

 

Again, we may be giving them far too much credit here. The Great Reset is presented as a master plan but it may be more of a hail-mary series of panic measures than anything.

[Captainlove]

5 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Wiping it is a way of addressing it. I've seen these ideas, as well as resetting bank accounts to zero. But this is going to cause mass panic and confusion which is not what they want.

 

And yes, energy is another issue. They can bluster about our green future as much as they want but the reality has always been that green energy is crap and not even close to replacing oil.

 

Again, we may be giving them far too much credit here. The Great Reset is presented as a master plan but it may be more of a hail-mary series of panic measures than anything.

Out of likes,but i like what you say.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Captainlove

[Odie Hatzcats]

17 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

Wiping it is a way of addressing it. I've seen these ideas, as well as resetting bank accounts to zero.

 

They will wipe the debt but they will keep what they have which is physical, land, bulidings, companies etc. All else will be wiped. Thus only they have claim to anything physical.

 

17 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

But this is going to cause mass panic and confusion which is not what they want.

 

Disagree. They want exactly that and is shown by current actions. The mass will do as told by them, as sad as that is.

 

17 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

we may be giving them far too much credit here

 

I give them none .... what they have done and are doing is pathetic. Anyone with a working brain can see it for what it is but the mass .... they are not what we consider them to be and they are seemingly happy to be a slave race!

Edited January 25, 2021 by Odie Hatzcats

[SimonTV]

Great reset or the great wealth transfer? 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2021 by SimonTV

[Grumpy Owl]

16 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

This video doesn't necessarily make for the easiest listening but is very revealing from the perspective of a patient on a Covid ward. The lady in question has underlying health issues including a heart and lung condition but was admitted to hospital for a broken leg and damaged spine. She tested negative for Covid prior to admission and only tested positive after being admitted on a "clean" ward. She was moved to a Covid ward despite being asymptomatic and despite her objections.

 

Her account of what has been occurring on the Covid ward is pretty shocking - she is one of 6 patients, of which 4 of them have no symptoms, and all the others are elderly. She tells of how she was asked to observe another patient's vital signs who then died in front of her because the staff were too busy. Whilst she is being interviewed, another patient is calling out desperately for assistance - clearly suffering - but being ignored by staff. The lady being interviewed filmed whilst on the ward but was confronted by police and security and had her phone taken.

 

Her conclusion is that, before being admitted to hospital, she believed the mainstream narrative and had concerns about getting Covid due to her health issues. But now, after her first hand experience of being "treated like an animal" like the other patients, she says that we are not being told the truth by the media and she will help with the campaign for truth.

 

 

 

I've said before that I believe the last place anyone wants to end up in is a hospital. Sounds to me like they are very keen for people to die in hospital wards, so they continue to 'clock up' the Covid-deaths.

 

I'm also kind of reminded about the whole MRSA scandal a few years ago, where people were going into hospital for all sorts of minor conditions but ended up catching MRSA and dying as a result.

 

46 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

It is getting very serious in the UK, full-on police state. Arriving passengers being detained for 10 days, from certain countries, at their own expense. Then there is the prospect of everyone coming into the country held until they have a negative test.  First it will be business hotels for arrivals and we will end up with isolation camps for anyone who is seen to be a biohazard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/covid-quarantine-hotels-uk-travel-news-b901025.html

Air passengers coming into lockdown Britain face 10 days of quarantine in hotels, Boris Johnson confirmed today.

Under plans being decided by ministers over the next 24 hours, some travellers will be put on buses and driven directly to isolation centres.

 

Oddly, this seems very similar to what Nigel Farage was reporting on with the illegal immigrants arriving by dinghy onto the Kent coast last year.

 

The illegals were being transported on buses and coaches to various hotels across the country, requistioned by Serco under contract to the government. As usual, we never heard any more about what happened to all these illegals. But now I wonder if this was some kind of pre-emptive training exercise.

 

And what DID happen to all those illegals being put up in hotels?

 

 

 

 

[Illmatic]

2 minutes ago, Odie Hatzcats said:

 

They will wipe the debt but they will keep what they have which is physical, land, bulidings, companies etc. All else will be wiped. Thus only they have claim to anything physical.

 

 

Disagree. They want exactly that and is shown by current actions. The mass will do as told by them, as sad as that is.

 

 

I give them none .... what they have done and are doing is pathetic. Anyone with a working brain can see it for what it is but the mass .... they are not what we consider them to be and they are seemingly happy to be a slave race!

 

The masses are happy because they are being "looked after" for now and not a lot seems to be changing other than life is more boring, This includes many many businesses, who are working under the impression that the government is propping them up as long as they need to in order to get through the pandemic. If they are then strong-armed into giving away everything they have worked so hard for I can't see them being happy about that but hey I guess we'll see. "You'll own nothing and be happy" etc.

 

And nope I don't mean credit in the sense of congratulating them for what they are doing. It is beyond disgusting. But it's worth trying to build a good idea of and then dissect and analyse their plans to see what the potential shortcomings are before we all just throw our arms in the air, decide we're all completely fucked and put the shotgun in our mouth. Any plan, especially one on this grand a scale, is bound to be flawed.

[SimonTV]

34 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

She was moved to a Covid ward despite being asymptomatic and despite her objections.

 

This is like something out of that Michael Douglas film where they were lying about patients surgical outcomes to harvest their organs. Absolutely terrifying to think that you can go to the hospital for an unrelated injury and get trapped in to this false pandemic medical treatment paradigm. 

[Frankieboy]

Just watched a video of an american woman who took apart the Covid test swab (cottonbud part) and a normal Cottonbud. The covid bud had fine silvery theads tha seem to be MOVING!!

then she went on to say things about NANO technology and MORGELLONS

 

Has anyone else seen the video?

 

i cant upload it got it sent from a friend!

 

PLUS has anyone else been getting Requests on Email stites,  youtube, whatsapp  etc. to  agree NEW PRIVACY TERMS?