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Government saves £600m on state pension payments as Covid deaths surge

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/government-saves-600m-state-pension-payments-covid-deaths-surge/

 

 

 

The Government will save over £600m in state pension payments this year following a steep rise in excess deaths among the elderly, according to the budget watchdog.

The expected number of excess pensioner deaths has shot up by more than 45pc, to 90,000 this year, because of the latest surge in the number of coronavirus cases.

Those over the age of 70 are most vulnerable to the disease and have been following strict social distancing measures since the start of the pandemic. However, the Covid-19 death toll has grown to 66,713 in Britain by mid-November, Government figures have reported. 

Two in three excess pensioner deaths have been brought forward up by two years due to the pandemic, as the most at risk have died sooner than they otherwise would have, the Office for Budget Responsibility said. 

The Government has therefore paid out less in state pension rights, cutting spending by £0.6bn this year.

 

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11 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

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https://twitter.com/Stat_O_Guy/status/1353482061852643328?s=20

 

As predicted.

 

They are coming for the children next.

 

 

To an extent though, that pattern can be explained by seasonal weather changes.  It probably went up sharply in the first wave about March because February is when Covid-19 will have first become a recordable category.

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Just now, Ergo Storm said:

 

To an extent though, that pattern can be explained by seasonal weather changes.  It probably went up sharply in the first wave about March because February is when Covid-19 will have first become a recordable category.

 

It went up after the flu vaccine & now is sky rocketing thanks to the covid vaccine. They are killing the old.

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https://principia-scientific.com/how-many-are-the-vaccines-killing/

How Many Are The Vaccines Killing?

Published on January 24, 2021

Written by Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA

 

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And let us remember if a patient dies within 28 days of being tested positive for coronavirus (and the test doesn’t mean that the patient even has the disease since most tests are false positives) then the death will be listed as a covid-19 death and the patient will be said to have died ‘with’ covid-19. So by the same token, it is perfectly reasonable to say that if a patient dies or falls ill within 28 days of being vaccinated then the death or illness was related to the covid-19 vaccine.     

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28 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Government saves £600m on state pension payments as Covid deaths surge

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/government-saves-600m-state-pension-payments-covid-deaths-surge/

 

 

 

The Government will save over £600m in state pension payments this year following a steep rise in excess deaths among the elderly, according to the budget watchdog.

The expected number of excess pensioner deaths has shot up by more than 45pc, to 90,000 this year, because of the latest surge in the number of coronavirus cases.

Those over the age of 70 are most vulnerable to the disease and have been following strict social distancing measures since the start of the pandemic. However, the Covid-19 death toll has grown to 66,713 in Britain by mid-November, Government figures have reported. 

Two in three excess pensioner deaths have been brought forward up by two years due to the pandemic, as the most at risk have died sooner than they otherwise would have, the Office for Budget Responsibility said. 

The Government has therefore paid out less in state pension rights, cutting spending by £0.6bn this year.

 

 

They don't include the full maths in that or provide any statistical context or benchmark.  What they are saying is that excess deaths rose this year by 40,500 (90,000/1.45 = 62,069), which means they are claiming that excess deaths would normally be somewhere around 62,069.  I have to say, it doesn't seem like a dramatic increase to me.  They must be expressing it as a percentage because saying there has been a 45% rise looks more dramatic and serious than saying there has been a rise of roughly 28,000.  But is this 62,069 an average or what?  If an average, over what period? If it's just the 2019 excess death figure for that age group, why should we rely on it?  It's all very misleading.

 

I was browsing the papers at a newsagent today and noticed a big headline on the front page of one of them in words to the effect [can't remember which paper it was]: '100,000 Covid deaths.  Families demand answers'.  It's clear that one factor behind all this is a growing over-exaggerated risk aversion in society and, accompanying it, a blame culture. For the government to avoid criticism, they have to be seen to be taking this seriously and implement all these measures, and even then they are still harshly criticised. 

 

Not that I support this government - I have never voted Tory - but anybody who thinks a government can stop a virus has to be slightly detached from reality, to put it kindly.  It's as crackers as demanding that the government stop hail showers or thunder storms.  Granted, governments can take measures to mitigate the effects of these things, but ultimately if there is a real distinct and discrete pandemic virus, it will spread.  We can't just shut down our whole lives to appease maybe 30,000 elderly who would have died fairly soon anyway of similar natural causes.

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Government pulls ad that states joggers are 'highly likely to have Covid-19'

https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/government-pulls-ad-states-joggers-highly-likely-covid-19/1705305

 

 

Excrement meter off the scales.

Funny how this is exactly what the radical left are pushing...but then SAGE are run by communist.

They just want to point the finger & get us all fighting amongst ourselves, whilst they carry on destroying whats left.

 

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Lockdown extended:

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1388375/lockdown-extended-when-third-lockdown-2021-end-date-england-EVG

 

Pubs shut till July - but when bankrupt pub landlords commit suicide they will no doubt  go down in the statistics as yet more covid related fatalities.

 

Excellent comments, most of which would not be out of place on this thread, with readers well aware of event 201 and the Great Reset.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, pete675 said:

Lockdown extended:

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1388375/lockdown-extended-when-third-lockdown-2021-end-date-england-EVG

 

Pubs shut till July - but when bankrupt pub landlords commit suicide they will no doubt  go down in the statistics as yet more covid related fatalities.

 

Excellent comments, most of which would not be out of place on this thread, with readers well aware of event 201 and the Great Reset.

 

 

 

I believe this is a lie, they intend this to be permanent, and articles like this are salami-slicing.  The lockdown itself will continue until September 2021 because they need around 90% of the general population (adults and older teenagers) vaccinated to keep up the charade.  Once that's achieved, they will then ease off for a while and pretend it's all going back to normal.  Then in about late October or early November, as it's starting to get colder again, there will suddenly be articles about a steep rise in deaths and hospitals overwhelmed and it will all start up again.  

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1 hour ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

To an extent though, that pattern can be explained by seasonal weather changes.  It probably went up sharply in the first wave about March because February is when Covid-19 will have first become a recordable category.

 

That is a valid point, and goes to show that DI Forum members are a lot less dumb about statistics than SAGE.

 

However, it does set off another train of thought.

 

'Seasonal excess deaths' usually amount to 50,000 + in an average winter. Premature deaths among poorer pensioners unable to heat or eat properly.

 

The government has done nothing to solve this problem, which could be solved if  money wasn't showered on bank bail outs and Middle East wars.

 

Not so worried about ' Not Killing Granny' from  winter poverty are they?

 

So why are they so solicitous about our well being now?

 

A reasonable person might pose a question about lockdowns and vaccines - what is the intention, to cure us.........or kill us?

 

Which scenario is most likely, on the balance of probabilities?
 

 

 

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5 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Government saves £600m on state pension payments as Covid deaths surge

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/government-saves-600m-state-pension-payments-covid-deaths-surge/

 

 

 

The Government will save over £600m in state pension payments this year following a steep rise in excess deaths among the elderly, according to the budget watchdog.

The expected number of excess pensioner deaths has shot up by more than 45pc, to 90,000 this year, because of the latest surge in the number of coronavirus cases.

Those over the age of 70 are most vulnerable to the disease and have been following strict social distancing measures since the start of the pandemic. However, the Covid-19 death toll has grown to 66,713 in Britain by mid-November, Government figures have reported. 

Two in three excess pensioner deaths have been brought forward up by two years due to the pandemic, as the most at risk have died sooner than they otherwise would have, the Office for Budget Responsibility said. 

The Government has therefore paid out less in state pension rights, cutting spending by £0.6bn this year.

 

 

I see all those 6's again.......6️⃣:classic_biggrin:

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2 hours ago, Claire said:

Does any one have any idea the impact of those donating blood who have had the mRNA shot will do. Like what that means for those who do not want it but have to have a blood transfusion from someone who has? 

 

Never thought of this Claire, I guess these Jehovah Witnesses had something right.👍

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19 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

It definitely doesn't exist in the sense that we have a highly contagious virus in the wild that spreads through the air and between asymptomatic people and that is deadly enough to justify vaccinating everyone. 

 

It might exist in the sense that it is a relatively bad year for flu. 

 

When you consider these two articles about flu vaccine rates increasing the rates of annual flu, that might even be enough to explain it. 

 

https://peerj.com/articles/10112/

 

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0163508

Understood Simon.  Many academics (and myself) are very suspicious about the need to vaccine THE WHOLE PLANET'S human population regardless of vulnerability to said virus (or any pathogen), without respect to age, location etc.  This is way beyond bizarre.  Usually a 'vaccine'  if deemed necessary for a new bacterial or viral pathogen would only be offered for those who are considered likely (with consultation of course from GP/consultants/residents in hospitals) to suffer significant to severe symptoms or death!  This is particularly suspicious as the mRNA gene therapy which may have value under certain circumstances, such as an attempt to fight (untreated - terminal) cancers where risk in the long term are far outweighed by short term survival prospects but for a 'flu-like SARS'?  Humm, there is much in the way of criticism over this approach.  It is highly unlikely although not entirely impossible that asymptomatic individuals can spread such a virus especially if they are not let us say 'at very close quarters/intimate' with anyone else!!!  I'm no expert regarding vaccines or pathogens such as c19 leading to significant infection or viral symptoms so cannot comment scientifically here, but yes, that too is a factor - the 'asymptomatic risk' (?).  Most have no or mild symptoms and the death rate is approx 1/1000, sad but not in my mind sufficient to require vaccinating the entire human population especially with regard to long term cytocine storms and other risks in years to come!!!  Agendas matter! My main guess here is that the virus (flu/SARS etc.) is what it is, but the opportunity for draconian social control experiments together with continued expansion of 'technocracy/big tech, I phones and eventually neuralink objectives have been used by powers that be under the umbrella of  this 'pandemic' as an excuse to ply their wares.  Same with the mRNA vaccine experiment, long term risks, allergic reactions etc, in the minority having been negated in the wake of the largest mammalian (human) gene therapy experiment ever undertaken.  I won't be having any of the mRNA Pfz/Mod vaccines, even if it means never being allowed abroad or into a social venue ever again, end of my wildlife photography (abroad) career, but hey, MY LIFE MATTERS.  Yours too. choose wisely, be safe.

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Ha I've seen it all now........🤣

 

Could cats and dogs have to be vaccinated to curb virus spread? Transmission of Covid-19 from animals to humans poses 'significant long-term risk', scientists say 

Cats and dogs could have to be vaccinated against Covid-19 in future, a group of scientists from the University of East Anglia has said, noting that pets could infect humans with new variants.

 

Daily Fail today

 

 

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