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4 hours ago, Dolan said:

Hi all, been reading this forum for years I’m now writing here with a question.. I work for one of the major supermarkets in the distribution warehouse. So far regarding masks it’s just been when your coming and going but during actual work not needed.

  Yesterday we were told by management that as of next week you’ll have to wear one all time, so 8 hours of my day with restricted breathing, we were then asked to sign something to say we agreed, I have refused to sign and asked for something in writing as to what I would be signing(so far still been given nothing). I asked questions and was told even if you have a lanyard you need a doctors note and even with an exemption you will be required to wear a face shield rather than a mask! If caught not wearing a mask you’ll have 3 warning then suspended pending investigation! Madness! Does anybody have any suggestions?Thanks 

If worse comes to worst and you're unable to find a practical way out of the situation for the time being then you will probably be able to get away with leaving your nose uncovered throughout your shift. Yes still a load of bullshit you shouldn't have to put up with and if we lived in more enlightened times we wouldn't have to but we all need to make ends meet so this is an option that can hold you over until you find a better solution long term should it become necessary - i.e find a different job! I was in this predicament for a few months recently where I absolutely needed the money and had no other realistic options within the given timeframe. So I just inhaled n exhaled nasally throughout the shift and whilst it's bloody stupid and inconvenient it is worlds away from respirating with a covered up snoz. And THAT I absolutely refuse to do! 

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7 hours ago, Dolan said:

Hi all, been reading this forum for years I’m now writing here with a question.. I work for one of the major supermarkets in the distribution warehouse. So far regarding masks it’s just been when your coming and going but during actual work not needed.

  Yesterday we were told by management that as of next week you’ll have to wear one all time, so 8 hours of my day with restricted breathing, we were then asked to sign something to say we agreed, I have refused to sign and asked for something in writing as to what I would be signing(so far still been given nothing). I asked questions and was told even if you have a lanyard you need a doctors note and even with an exemption you will be required to wear a face shield rather than a mask! If caught not wearing a mask you’ll have 3 warning then suspended pending investigation! Madness! Does anybody have any suggestions?Thanks 

 

Ask for a written copy of their risk assessment pertaining to staff wearing masks throughout their shift, which with any luck they won't have done

(Sorry if you get two replies like this, I  thought I  was logged in ..its early,,lol)

The govt guidance is now that windscreen face shields must now be worn with a mask at the same time, so it seems like they are bullying staff into compliance ?

And are clueless to changing legislation. 

Also if you can find other staff who feel the same,  strength in numbers!

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Who wants to jump the queue 🤣

 

Priti Patel has refused to rule out fining 'morally reprehensible' people who try to jump the queue for coronavirus vaccines on the NHS

 The Home Secretary said No10 was keeping 'all measures under review' amid reports of young and healthy people in England and Wales bypassing the priority list using IT loopholes.

 

Daily Fail Today.........

 

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45 minutes ago, alexa said:

Who wants to jump the queue 🤣

 

Priti Patel has refused to rule out fining 'morally reprehensible' people who try to jump the queue for coronavirus vaccines on the NHS

 The Home Secretary said No10 was keeping 'all measures under review' amid reports of young and healthy people in England and Wales bypassing the priority list using IT loopholes.

 

Daily Fail Today.........

 

I'd love to see the percentage of them in a graph, ha

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8 hours ago, Fluke said:

Same. Might have to swallow my pride and go with the enemy with this one. Imagine what you could do with £500? Could buy that house and finally move out.

 

If you could demand payment with the original pound coin, the British gold sovereign, which is still legal tender, then you could move out.

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Essential Facts Your Doctor Probably Forgot To Tell You about the Covid-19 Vaccine

Vernon Coleman





The world can now be divided into two.

On the one side are the pro-vaxxers.

And on the other are the anti-vaxxers (a term of abuse the demonising liars, cheats and manipulators have devised to try to demonise honest, caring people who are justifiably concerned about the safety of a rushed through, experimental covid-19 vaccine).

The pro-vaxxers are like loving parents, besotted with their offspring. They believe vaccines can do no wrong and will cure the world of all its ills if only the wicked anti-vaxxers can be silenced. They deny that vaccines can ever produce side effects, let alone cause any deaths.

The BBC has quoted the Archbishop of Canterbury as having said that `the vaccine is safe and everybody should have it’. If he really said that, and it’s impossible to trust the BBC of course, then he is either an ignorant fool who needs to do some reading or he is telling porky pies about the vaccine. If he means by `safe’ that it won’t kill of seriously injure everyone who takes it then I agree with him. But that’s not my definition of `safe’. As I shall prove in a minute or two, the covid-19 vaccine is not safe, and before the Archbishop tells the world to have it he should do some research.

The anti-vaxxers, have looked at the science and know that vaccines don’t always work and often do a great deal of harm. They believe vaccines need to be assessed clinically and scientifically and only used if the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.

The pro-vaxxers have been in the ascendancy for some years, and members of the mass market media have swallowed the pro-vaxxer argument and will not countenance any discussion. The BBC (which has financial links with a big investor in vaccines) refuses to interview anti-vaxxers or to allow any debate about vaccine efficacy and safety.

Today, informed consent is a myth since patients are not given any evidence that is not approved by the drug companies.

And most doctors are so scared of the consequences of even the mildest criticism of vaccination that they simply go along with what they are told to do and say.

Unlike pro-vaxxers, I believe that anyone receiving medical treatment is entitled to know the risks if they’re going to make an informed decision. I’ve prepared a list of scientific truths that your doctor may have forgotten to tell you.

1. It is a myth that the covid-19 vaccine will stop you getting covid-19. The WHO says it doesn’t `believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it’s going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on.’ So, what does the vaccine do, then? Well, it seems to reduce covid-19 symptoms in quite a lot of people, though most people only ever get flu-like symptoms anyway. So the vaccine will probably reduce the coughing, sneezing and so on which are the only symptoms most covid-19 patients notice.
2. There is no evidence to show how long the effect of the vaccine might last. Those having the vaccine are taking part in the world’s largest ever experiment.
3. Pregnant women (or women who might be or who are trying to become pregnant) should not have the vaccine.
4. No one knows whether the vaccine will interfere with essential life-saving drugs – such as products given for heart disease, cancer and so on. Many elderly patients already take a number of prescribed drugs. The covid-19 vaccine is the biggest experiment in history. And, unlike a proper clinical trial, it is largely unregulated. As with all vaccines, most of the problems which develop will never be reported or recognised. Remember the disease involved is known to be no more dangerous than flu – with a more than 99% survival rate for those under 70. And the number of people alleged to have died from covid-19 includes all those who have died ‘with’ it – most will have probably died from something else.
5. The Food and Drug Administration in the US has produced a draft list of what they call `possible adverse event outcomes’. The list includes the following: Guillain-Barre syndrome, transverse myelitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, meningitis, encephalopathy, convulsions, stroke, narcolepsy, cataplexy, anaphylaxis, heart attack, myocarditis, pericarditis, autoimmune disease, death, acute demyelinating diseases, allergy reactions, thrombocytopenia, venous thromboembolism, arthritis, death and many others. If you have the vaccine then you should keep a look out for the symptoms of all the diseases on the list. Because of the risk of a serious allergy reaction anyone who has the vaccine should be observed by a health care professional for at least 15 minutes afterwards.
6. In the UK, the Government has said that there is no evidence that the covid-19 vaccine is safe for breastfeeding women, or their infants. But they have approved the vaccine because they think it is `probably’ safe.
7. Just before Christmas the `ACIP Covid-19 Vaccine Work Group at CDC’ in the US produced a report which listed the number of people who’d had the vaccine as 112,807 and the number of Health Impact Events as 3,150. Health Impact Events are defined as individuals `unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health professional’. So, the significant side effects were already running at 2.79%. If 60 million people in the UK have the vaccine, we could expect 1.67 million people to be unable to work, perform normal daily activities and to require care from a doctor or health professional. We obviously don’t know what will happen in the months and years ahead.
8. The UK Government has decided that if your doctor gives you a first vaccine dose made by one manufacturer but doesn’t have a supply of the vaccine to give you a second dose from the same manufacturer then they can give you a vaccine made by a different manufacturer as your second dose. Scientists in other countries were shocked when the UK Government announced this. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the US noted that the covid-19 vaccines are not interchangeable and that `the safety and efficacy of a mixed product series have not been evaluated.’
9. There’s big money to be made from the covid-19 vaccine. GPs receive over £12 per injection.
10. The covid-19 vaccine is being given to over 80-year-olds, but how many people in their 80s, 90s and over were involved in trials? The vaccine has been given to people over 100.
11. There’s a chance not all available vaccines will be accepted everywhere if and when health passports are introduced.
12. There is a risk of paradoxical immune enhancement. People who’ve had the covid-19 vaccine may develop very high antibody levels with the result that when they are exposed to the coronavirus they may develop a serious immune overreaction and die.
13. Dozens of people have already been killed by the vaccine. If as many had died because of a motor car fault, the car would have been withdrawn by now. But drug companies have legal immunity for this vaccine. Pro-vaxxers claim these deaths are just a coincidence though they are happy to claim that anyone who died within 28 days of receiving a positive PCR test (which was probably false) must have died of covid-19. Despite the nonsensical, unscientific `it was just a coincidence’ claim it seems perfectly sound to assume that anyone who died within days of receiving the vaccine died because of it. And the death rate so far is truly terrifying. There’s an updated, referenced list of covid-19 vaccine deaths on my website. Please look at it.
14. Anyone who has had an allergy reaction or an anaphylactic shock reaction after a vaccination should be wary. Details of a bad reaction may not be in your medical notes. Nine out of ten bad reactions to vaccines are never reported or officially recorded. Personally, I think it might be a good to be wary if you’ve ever had an allergy reaction to anything. So think back.

Pro-vaxxers will tell you that you must have the vaccine.

Anti-vaxxers, who believe in the old-fashioned concept of `informed consent’, will tell you that you must make up your own mind.

And now you know what your doctor and the Government should have told you.

Since you ask: I certainly won’t be having the vaccine. It doesn’t work and it might kill me. And although I’m pretty sure it’s not in my medical notes, I once had an allergy reaction to a vaccine.

Copyright Vernon Coleman January 19th 2021

 

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Rip off Britain Angela Rippon!    We all knew you were a snake in the grass anyway:

Love the big mess up here from aol, after a big write up on how important it is to have the jab and not believe the conspiracy theorists about the vaccine, they then show a picture of her with prince 'peado' andrew, laughable.
Angela- you fusty repulsive little turd, you ARE indeed; Ripping off Britain.  Well done.
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15 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

Did i not say they are going to be paying people to become a case next? These people are nothing but predictable. 

Yes you did mate and these suckers are sicker than we thought. Question is though, where is the money coming from again? This is well advertised to those who need money and that's really sad that people will do this for the handout and they know it. 

 

I'm really tired of all of this now. My Mrs had the jab yesterday and I'm devastated. Was not a good day for me yesterday. However, I can't control the ignorant and I can't (not that I ever would) control what actions my Mrs takes. 

 

All I can do is what I need to do, nothing more. This is a war for your soul and I know deep down, they'll have to rip mine from me. 

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Sorry about your angst re your partner taking the jab. My parents, both in their 80s will be taking it in the next few weeks, nothing I can do or say now. Ive already caused enough stress in our relationship, will be keeping my mouth shut from now on. I particularly despise that Tony Holohan cunt for the amount of fear he pumps into them every evening on the news

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17 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Yes you did mate and these suckers are sicker than we thought. Question is though, where is the money coming from again? This is well advertised to those who need money and that's really sad that people will do this for the handout and they know it. 

 

I'm really tired of all of this now. My Mrs had the jab yesterday and I'm devastated. Was not a good day for me yesterday. However, I can't control the ignorant and I can't (not that I ever would) control what actions my Mrs takes. 

 

All I can do is what I need to do, nothing more. This is a war for your soul and I know deep down, they'll have to rip mine from me. 

 

I hope she is has no negative effects. My family is the same, completely convinced by the brainwashing box, even after I try my best to convince them with videos and articles. The fear is too great with them and my father needs to travel, so he is forced to do it anyway.

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I think there's no doubt that there's a psychological subversion in many people when they strap on their muzzle. Aside from the dark energetic impact of them taking part in a Satanic ritual and the obvious negative health implications, the fact that it reduces inhibitions is interesting.  It makes these indoctrinated people far more likely to ignore normal social boundaries and engage in increasingly extreme behaviour.  I think the mask provides a sort of unconscious anonymity, emboldening a frightened person with a victim mentality to become a perpetrator instead and attack others. The masks are actually perpetuating the fears of both the wearer and anyone who can't see obscured faces, decreasing empathy between people, making misinterpretation of each other's demeanours far more likely and subsequently confirming to all concerned that nobody is "safe". 

 

The sad fact is that the Covidian cultists are actually a very real threat to free thinking people because they have been through a sustained gas lighting process of dehumanization and dissociation and no longer have empathy for other humans. They are so preoccupied with their irrational fear of dying they no longer know how to live rationally. They now have no meaning in life other than the instructions given to them by their leaders, in this case the government and the mainstream media. Ironic that these programmed people use the phrase "stay safe" when they are creating an environment out there where anyone exercising personal choice and their human rights is far from safe. The self policing is the greatest threat to others. Of course the most interesting thing is the end game of the vaccine will turn many people into soulless drones. Why bother? So many already are.

 

But I think in energetic terms if we keep our vibration high and focus on positive things in our life (creativity, engaging with nature, healthy food, those we love etc) we won't have to share a low frequency with these people. From my experience if I'm having a bad day I tend to connect in with the cultists' anxiety and negativity when I'm out and about and it disturbs me. But if I'm feeling positive, empowered and living in my authentic self I feel like I'm on a totally different timeline to the cultists and feel so much more neutral to it all. I think ultimately that's the answer to how we deal with this. Just work on remaining as positive as we can and focus on the little pleasures in life. Hopefully that not only preserves our own sanity but the constructive energy can perhaps have a positive effect on others by proxy.

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49 minutes ago, The Andernovian said:

 

From your Guardian article

One in five people in England may have had coronavirus, new modelling suggests, equivalent to 12.4 million people, rising to almost one in two in some areas.

 

Reported last week in the London Evening Standard.

 

The researchers, from Cambridge University, also estimated that up to 36 per cent of Londoners may have already had the virus - the highest of any region in the UK.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/r-rate-london-falling-below-one-lockdown-b899850.html

 

With all these estimates of huge chunks of the population having had CV, where are all the excess deaths?  Time to end the year long lockdown then.

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4 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

From your Guardian article

One in five people in England may have had coronavirus, new modelling suggests, equivalent to 12.4 million people, rising to almost one in two in some areas.

 

Reported last week in the London Evening Standard.

 

The researchers, from Cambridge University, also estimated that up to 36 per cent of Londoners may have already had the virus - the highest of any region in the UK.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/r-rate-london-falling-below-one-lockdown-b899850.html

 

With all these estimates of huge chunks of the population having had CV, where are all the excess deaths?  Time to end the year long lockdown then.

 

If we go back to Dr. Michael Yeadon video where he talks about prior immunity, this actually matches his thinking about his pie graph he presented last year. 

 

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Yeadon’s central assertion is that, by his calculations, a large proportion of the population have already had the virus (32%), have prior immunity to it through exposure to other coronaviruses (30%), or are too young to spread the virus (10%). This, he says, leaves relatively few (28%) susceptible. 

 

https://vidmax.com/video/199831-former-pfizer-vice-president-says-covid-is-effectively-over-no-need-for-vaccine

 

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