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3 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Years ago they used to place patients with TB outside in the sunshine because it was known to heal. In the same way the Dead Sea with its high salt content has always been a magnet for those with respiratory illness.  You can’t overdose on natural vit d from the sun and from food (the eskimos eat lots of salmon for theirs). Bearing in mind during lockdown residents were confined to their rooms and unable to socialise and get adequate amounts of sunshine. I consider that abuse and advice to go to the contrary of what has always been known. Vit d is natural immune booster as well performing and aiding many other processes within the body.  There’s a lot of talk of evidence based practice but non of intuition and basic common sense which has been lacking. Or deliberately obliterated.  Bearing that in mind you can see where the lack of trust in their evidence which always veers into money in their pocket isn’t trusted. 


Agreed, good information there too, appreciate it.

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1 hour ago, numnuts said:

How can this even be a real story?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9173953/Ministers-eye-astonishing-plan-testing-positive-Covid-one-payment-500.html

 

'The £500 Covid cashpoint: Minister eyes 'astonishing' plan to give EVERYONE who tests positive for virus a one-off payment to 'encourage more swabs'... at cost of £453million a WEEK.'

 

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There is something fishy about this. Why are they so keen for you to get tested? What are they looking for? Haven't they found the golden child who has the antichrist DNA?

 

I can see more people will flock to the testing centres but not for me. They can stuff it. Too cheap for me.

 

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45 minutes ago, Dolan said:

Hi all, been reading this forum for years I’m now writing here with a question.. I work for one of the major supermarkets in the distribution warehouse. So far regarding masks it’s just been when your coming and going but during actual work not needed.

  Yesterday we were told by management that as of next week you’ll have to wear one all time, so 8 hours of my day with restricted breathing, we were then asked to sign something to say we agreed, I have refused to sign and asked for something in writing as to what I would be signing(so far still been given nothing). I asked questions and was told even if you have a lanyard you need a doctors note and even with an exemption you will be required to wear a face shield rather than a mask! If caught not wearing a mask you’ll have 3 warning then suspended pending investigation! Madness! Does anybody have any suggestions?Thanks 

 

Your employment contract may have a clause about workware/uniform etc but mask wearing isn't in it. If they sack you, talk to your lawyer about unfair dismissal. I think you need to have been working there at least 2 years though. Please check.

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8 minutes ago, facere arbitrium said:


Agreed, good information there too, appreciate it.

Thanks. I was just trying to point out that non of this new. Neither are the the effects of social isolation on the cardiovascular system and the health v wealth as an excuse to close the economy is all BS. They go hand in hand. Marmot did a good report on this and presented it to the government at the time but all his recommendations were ignored. Statistics today will show most fatalities being amongst the poorest and yet they target them for the experimental vaccine first whilst closing the economy. Logic would say open the economy and let people thrive, earn their money have their education and prosper in health and wealth.  

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53 minutes ago, Dolan said:

Hi all, been reading this forum for years I’m now writing here with a question.. I work for one of the major supermarkets in the distribution warehouse. So far regarding masks it’s just been when your coming and going but during actual work not needed.

  Yesterday we were told by management that as of next week you’ll have to wear one all time, so 8 hours of my day with restricted breathing, we were then asked to sign something to say we agreed, I have refused to sign and asked for something in writing as to what I would be signing(so far still been given nothing). I asked questions and was told even if you have a lanyard you need a doctors note and even with an exemption you will be required to wear a face shield rather than a mask! If caught not wearing a mask you’ll have 3 warning then suspended pending investigation! Madness! Does anybody have any suggestions?Thanks 

 

Tricky one to answer this without knowing how large the warehouse is, how many people are working there at any time and what steps the company has already made to minimize person to person proximity.

 

Actual scientific studies are thin on the ground. Nervtags advice is mostly vague and unsupported hearsay and the one paper quoted on the efficacy of masks concerned tests on hospitalized people showing various degrees of other symptoms. Any sort of pcr testing of masks could be  subject to the same misuse as mass testing on healthy people with unwarranted high cycles.

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57 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.............

If your enemy comes to speak bearing a sword, open your door to him and speak, but keep your own sword at hand. If he comes to you empty-handed, greet him the same way. But if he comes to you bearing gifts, stand on your walls and cast stones down on him.” ― Tad Williams, The Dragonbone Chair

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36 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Vitamin D has been with us for a very long time, is incredibly native to our bodies, has broad spectrum anti-viral, anti-inflammatory plus immuno-regulatory effects and as a side effect comes with far less risk. Obviously there's good reasons why our bodies manufacture it naturally from sun exposure or utilise it from the diet or supplementation in the absence of sunlight.

 

So this the real reason why Bill Gates wants to block out the sun!

If he can't get you one way, he'll get you another.

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/sci/bill-gates-blocking-sun.html

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Sniper from the Daily Mail.

 

Police blunders on Covid law

Every single person prosecuted for flouting the Coronavirus Act was wrongly charged, with police making blunders over hundreds of cases.

The Crown Prosecution Service admitted yesterday that of the 232 charged so far under the laws brought in last March, all were incorrect.

In many cases officers muddled up the law, which allows them to remove or detain a ‘suspected infectious person’ for screening, with separate Health Protection Regulations, which say you cannot be outside of your home without a reasonable excuse.

A further 116 prosecutions under these latter regulations also had to be withdrawn, meaning that of the 1,252 charges brought under either act, 348 – or 28 per cent – were wrong.

The scale of the unlawful prosecutions – revealed in a CPS review – has shocked lawyers and campaigners.

Human rights lawyer Kirsty Brimelow QC, who analysed the wrongful prosecutions, called them a ‘systemic failure’ resulting from police and ministers ‘mixing up law and guidance’.

The National Police Chiefs Council said many of the cases with ‘admin errors’ that are corrected in court.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

So this the real reason why Bill Gates wants to block out the sun!

If he can't get you one way, he'll get you another way.

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/sci/bill-gates-blocking-sun.html

I was hoping he was visiting that serum institute in India earlier that part of set on fire. The fire was in some top floors and 5 died. If only!  

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8 minutes ago, Liberty said:

I was hoping he was visiting that serum institute in India earlier that part of set on fire. The fire was in some top floors and 5 died. If only!

 

The only fire Gates will see is the one down below 🔥

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A bioterrorist could look like this. In the early days just before covid materialized in the minds of Wuhan citizens there were livestock farmers complaining that pathogens were being dispersed by drone and had made their livestock sick. Then with covid that story got buried.

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4 hours ago, Dolan said:

Hi all, been reading this forum for years I’m now writing here with a question.. I work for one of the major supermarkets in the distribution warehouse. So far regarding masks it’s just been when your coming and going but during actual work not needed.

  Yesterday we were told by management that as of next week you’ll have to wear one all time, so 8 hours of my day with restricted breathing, we were then asked to sign something to say we agreed, I have refused to sign and asked for something in writing as to what I would be signing(so far still been given nothing). I asked questions and was told even if you have a lanyard you need a doctors note and even with an exemption you will be required to wear a face shield rather than a mask! If caught not wearing a mask you’ll have 3 warning then suspended pending investigation! Madness! Does anybody have any suggestions?Thanks 

If worse comes to worst and you're unable to find a practical way out of the situation for the time being then you will probably be able to get away with leaving your nose uncovered throughout your shift. Yes still a load of bullshit you shouldn't have to put up with and if we lived in more enlightened times we wouldn't have to but we all need to make ends meet so this is an option that can hold you over until you find a better solution long term should it become necessary - i.e find a different job! I was in this predicament for a few months recently where I absolutely needed the money and had no other realistic options within the given timeframe. So I just inhaled n exhaled nasally throughout the shift and whilst it's bloody stupid and inconvenient it is worlds away from respirating with a covered up snoz. And THAT I absolutely refuse to do! 

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7 hours ago, Dolan said:

Hi all, been reading this forum for years I’m now writing here with a question.. I work for one of the major supermarkets in the distribution warehouse. So far regarding masks it’s just been when your coming and going but during actual work not needed.

  Yesterday we were told by management that as of next week you’ll have to wear one all time, so 8 hours of my day with restricted breathing, we were then asked to sign something to say we agreed, I have refused to sign and asked for something in writing as to what I would be signing(so far still been given nothing). I asked questions and was told even if you have a lanyard you need a doctors note and even with an exemption you will be required to wear a face shield rather than a mask! If caught not wearing a mask you’ll have 3 warning then suspended pending investigation! Madness! Does anybody have any suggestions?Thanks 

 

Ask for a written copy of their risk assessment pertaining to staff wearing masks throughout their shift, which with any luck they won't have done

(Sorry if you get two replies like this, I  thought I  was logged in ..its early,,lol)

The govt guidance is now that windscreen face shields must now be worn with a mask at the same time, so it seems like they are bullying staff into compliance ?

And are clueless to changing legislation. 

Also if you can find other staff who feel the same,  strength in numbers!

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Who wants to jump the queue 🤣

 

Priti Patel has refused to rule out fining 'morally reprehensible' people who try to jump the queue for coronavirus vaccines on the NHS

 The Home Secretary said No10 was keeping 'all measures under review' amid reports of young and healthy people in England and Wales bypassing the priority list using IT loopholes.

 

Daily Fail Today.........

 

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45 minutes ago, alexa said:

Who wants to jump the queue 🤣

 

Priti Patel has refused to rule out fining 'morally reprehensible' people who try to jump the queue for coronavirus vaccines on the NHS

 The Home Secretary said No10 was keeping 'all measures under review' amid reports of young and healthy people in England and Wales bypassing the priority list using IT loopholes.

 

Daily Fail Today.........

 

I'd love to see the percentage of them in a graph, ha

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8 hours ago, Fluke said:

Same. Might have to swallow my pride and go with the enemy with this one. Imagine what you could do with £500? Could buy that house and finally move out.

 

If you could demand payment with the original pound coin, the British gold sovereign, which is still legal tender, then you could move out.

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