Sidlittle Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Thousands of Israelis Tested Positive for Coronavirus After First Vaccine Shot Over 12,400 Israeli residents have tested positive for COVID-19 after being vaccinated, among them 69 people who had already gotten the second dose, which began to be administered early last week, the Health Ministry reported. This amounts to 6.6 percent of the 189,000 vaccinated people who took coronavirus tests after being vaccinated. According to the ministry’s data, 5,348 people were found infected up to a week after getting the vaccine, of the 100,000 people who were vaccinated and then tested a week later – an infection rate of 5.4 percent of those vaccinated during that time. Another 5,585 people tested positive for the virus between the eighth and 14th day after getting the first vaccine – 8.3 percent of the 67,000 people who were vaccinated and tested during that post-vaccination period. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/thousands-of-israelis-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-after-first-vaccine-shot-1.9462478 Clearly just a rogue batch of hateful, anti-Semitic vials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Thoth Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebestein said: Is being called Derek a COVID risk factor? Or is there some code? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9171103/Kate-Garraway-says-shes-feeling-low-husbands-Covid-recovery-remains-uncertain.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9014211/Truth-Matt-Hancocks-step-grandad-died-Covid.html https://www.irishnews.com/magazine/entertainment/2020/12/30/news/lord-sugar-s-sister-another-victim-of-covid-two-weeks-after-brother-died-2173340/ https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/tributes-paid-daily-record-legend-23015402.amp And one that perhaps wasn't https://news.yahoo.com/derek-mahon-whose-poem-consoled-122904230.html?guccounter=1 From the older English name Dederick, which was in origin a Low German form of THEODORIC From a Germanic name meaning "ruler of the people", derived from the elements theud "people" and ric "ruler" https://www.behindthename.com/name/theodoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Nikola said: We are getting this BS served every single day and what I want are some reports from people who live there and are preferably nurses or work in a hospital otherwise. We need to know facts how else can we figure out what is true? My brothers live in Oz and turns out it is nowhere near as bad as here. Hospitals are quiet...they've had hardly any cases overall. Pretty much normal there, apart from mask wearing. Nothing like it has been reported....although it's usually Victoria we hear about. My brothers are in Brisbane. They are feeling very sorry for us here as they can see the impact our government is having on us. Although I am sure this is subject to change as they sure do love their vaccines over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SimonTV Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, facere arbitrium said: Ahh well at least it's being given more than 10 seconds of consideration. Not a victory but small step in the right direction. Keep fighting the good fight folks. Vit K2 is good to be given in combination with D3 or foods that contain K2 to direct the calcium into the right places. The other Vitamins and Minerals Dr. Dolores Cahill and other health professionals around the world have suggested and treat their patients successfully with would be useful too. Vitamin D doesn't make 100s of billions of £ for the pharmaceutical companies that are the driving force behind the fake pandemic. It also doesn't enable the government to implement totalitarianism policies and restrct global air travel. Therefore they will not be interested in any alternative strategies whether Vitamin D or anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Another example of how reporting may confuse people...on the one hand you have scientists telling us this disease affects 0.00001% of the people adversely..... this gives the impression nothing to see here folks.... then every day you have in the newspaper 1000/day dying. Now in macro terms 1000 isn't that big a number, but to everyday folk who don't think about death 1000 seems like a heck of a lot. Then what the scientists have been saying above gets forgotten about and we carry on with this ridiculous pretense that this is a serious disease. This is what happens when you go from macro overview to micro view......... I hope there is a day of reckoning for these politicians and newspapers...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mr H said: Another example of how reporting may confuse people...on the one hand you have scientists telling us this disease affects 0.00001% of the people adversely..... this gives the impression nothing to see here folks.... then every day you have in the newspaper 1000/day dying. Now in macro terms 1000 isn't that big a number, but to everyday folk who don't think about death 1000 seems like a heck of a lot. Then what the scientists have been saying above gets forgotten about and we carry on with this ridiculous pretense that this is a serious disease. This is what happens when you go from macro overview to micro view......... I hope there is a day of reckoning for these politicians and newspapers...... When you consider on average 10-15k people die every week. Which equals around 1400-2000 deaths per day. 1000 per day doesn't seem that unusual, especially when we take in to account that they are labelling every death as covid death because of the false positives rates of the PCR tests. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, SimonTV said: When you consider on average 10-15k people die every week. Which equals around 1400-2000 deaths per day. 1000 per day doesn't seem that unusual, especially when we take in to account that they are labelling every death as covid death because of the false positives rates of the PCR tests. Yes the 1000 deaths per day figure is not an excess figure - so some of regular deaths will be in that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctua Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, allymisfit said: My brothers live in Oz and turns out it is nowhere near as bad as here. Hospitals are quiet...they've had hardly any cases overall. Pretty much normal there, apart from mask wearing. Nothing like it has been reported....although it's usually Victoria we hear about. My brothers are in Brisbane. They are feeling very sorry for us here as they can see the impact our government is having on us. Although I am sure this is subject to change as they sure do love their vaccines over there. I was thinking about this today. The UK has astronomically high case numbers and associated death rates. Whilst one of the reasons is because of how the government have chosen to report it, i.e. labelling the vast majority of deaths as 'covid' when this is just lazy and misleading. But, as an island nation, surely we should be in a great position to do really well against the 'scary pandemic'. It makes me wonder if our island is the 'negative' part of the great experiment, and New Zealand (and to a lesser extent Australia) are the 'positive' parts, the 'look how well an isolated land mass can do with the right implementation of the restrictions'. It wouldn't work in mainland Europe as you would have to have everyone singing from the same song sheet, Couldn't have Belgium saying they had X amount of cases and related death rates when neighbouring France was doing really well. So they have to use island states for their blue and red corner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Noctua said: It makes me wonder if our island is the 'negative' part of the great experiment, and New Zealand (and to a lesser extent Australia) are the 'positive' parts, the 'look how well an isolated land mass can do with the right implementation of the restrictions'. Honestly, I do believe that. I have been thinking about that since my brother told me how it is there. Is this the UK's punishment for Brexit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr H said: Me too. What's more disturbing is the casual flippant nature it's announced. Even more disturbing is acceptance. The acceptance by the braindead masses is horrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Apologies for hogging the airwaves this fine day...but also....I noticed my reactions changing to folks which is a bit scary. I am the most peaceful person I know right. And today I went to the shop. Women walking towards me, masked up to the hilt, saw me coming and leapt into the road! Didn't even look to see if there was a car coming. And aren't masks meant to protect you? My normal reaction would be nothing, but today my mind raged with fury and I only managed to stop myself last moment to launching into a tirade to this already petrified women! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidlittle Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Mr H said: Another example of how reporting may confuse people...on the one hand you have scientists telling us this disease affects 0.00001% of the people adversely..... this gives the impression nothing to see here folks.... then every day you have in the newspaper 1000/day dying. Now in macro terms 1000 isn't that big a number, but to everyday folk who don't think about death 1000 seems like a heck of a lot. Then what the scientists have been saying above gets forgotten about and we carry on with this ridiculous pretense that this is a serious disease. This is what happens when you go from macro overview to micro view......... I hope there is a day of reckoning for these politicians and newspapers...... not to mention the fact that 1000 people aren’t dying in a day from covid, irrespective of ‘with covid’, ‘of covid’ and false positives. Now let’s go back to the current crazy reality we find ourselves in. 1.1M Positive PCR tests in the last 28 days. Some of those passed away… 1,400 of which were reported to as COVID Deaths yesterday. Those 1,400 PCR-Positive deaths occurred across a great many days, with the super majority within the last 9 days. They DID NOT all die within a 24h period. The graph below should help clear that up. https://adapnation.io/breaking-down-the-breaking-news/ Edited January 21, 2021 by Sidlittle 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullion Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, allymisfit said: Although I am sure this is subject to change as they sure do love their vaccines over there. No no and no, we do not love vaccines.....lol I’m in Vic and it’s all about the AO tennis and the antics of the players in quarantine atm. Everything’s going on like Covid never existed, except that you see masked loons in the shops. Everyone I speak to has Covid fatigue and are sick of hearing about it cos it’s hot and the beaches are calling duh.....lol With the ‘no jab’ stuff it’s not the vaccines they like, but the money they get, it’s a sad fact that those who are worse off and in need of the financial support are always targeted; it should be an incentive to get off welfare but unfortunately a lot are victims of circumstance and not just dole bludgers. Then there’s this article about the non mandated covid vax for the rest of us, it’ll be interesting to see what industries will say they require it outside of health and aged care. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, allymisfit said: Honestly, I do believe that. I have been thinking about that since my brother told me how it is there. Is this the UK's punishment for Brexit? No, it's our punishment for being the 51st state of Israel, sorry, I mean America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Lane55 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, allymisfit said: My brothers live in Oz and turns out it is nowhere near as bad as here. Hospitals are quiet...they've had hardly any cases overall. Pretty much normal there, apart from mask wearing. Nothing like it has been reported....although it's usually Victoria we hear about. My brothers are in Brisbane. They are feeling very sorry for us here as they can see the impact our government is having on us. Although I am sure this is subject to change as they sure do love their vaccines over there. I live in Australia and out of a population of over 25 million ,officially there have been 909 deaths and 28.750 "cases" since last year and people are still terrified . The average person knows nothing of statistics like how many people die in the world every day ,or the death rates yearly for other illnesses ,flu and TB ,or accidents ,heart disease etc etc and because of this its easy to bamboozle people with figures .Klaus Schwab saying things like this is the greatest disaster the world has seen since WW2 is just ridiculous yet people just cant keep things in perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullion Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr H said: America is now gone as a nation. At least now the yanks won’t have to visit China, cos they just woke up in it, and we're not far behind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col22 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 12 hours ago, perpetual said: Thanks. 25(a)(b) are not compatible with HRL because it is an illegal lockdown. Are they prepared to argue this in court? We have plenty of evidence. I don't know when this is going to be discussed or decided but guys, just make a ton of money this year and get out if need be. Let's buy a land or an island somewhere. If you want to, there is a way. My understanding is that Simon Dolans case questioning legality of lockdowns, set the precedent for lockdowns being legal. Don't know if he was set up to fail, or is controlled opposition, but the logic of 'if lockdowns are legal, then it follows that mandatory vax is legal', befuddles me. Maybe its because i don't have a Phd in ethics and philosophy !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 What would be an interesting statistic to compare to the 28 days covid tests limit, would to say what amount of people are dying within 7 days of a vaccine. Also on the flip side to show how silly the idea is of attributing death to covid within 28 days. What amount of people who died drank alcohol within 28 days of dying. Alcohol is a leading cause of death, so it is not unreasonable to blame alcohol for deaths like we do for covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 just heard a friend was in hospital for a week, heard through another friend who only found out mins before he told me after months of me going on about PCR tests being a joke and flow tests being shit he says "but he didnt test positive, so thats something" FS then at work people are calling in sick through isolation.. hes got covid, they tell me.... i respond "tested positive , or sick in bed with flu or tight chest?" dunno comes response .... FS talkradio Julia hartley fighting the fight (LOL) tells a gov stooge "25% of people get infected in the hospital the figures show this" FS Del Bigtree is told that incidence of covid is higher in face covering mandated areas than in no-mandate areas. He responds "its because people are touching the mask and dont know how to wear it properly" DOH! Morons to the left of me, morons to the right... stuck in the middle with youz 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, SimonTV said: What would be an interesting statistic to compare to the 28 days covid tests limit, would to say what amount of people are dying within 7 days of a vaccine. Also on the flip side to show how silly the idea is of attributing death to covid within 28 days. What amount of people who died drank alcohol within 28 days of dying. Alcohol is a leading cause of death, so it is not unreasonable to blame alcohol for deaths like we do for covid. well its a blatant bullshit tool i.e self isolate for 14 days but they use the test for 28 days in case of death... HELLLLOOOOO WAKE UP i say to my friends and family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Now we have seen evidence that the vaccine causes people to test positive for covid after the vaccine. That being said, if asymptomatic transmission exists, vaccinated people will be more at risk of spreading covid than less at risk. As it goes without saying that if a person tests negative they can't transmit it asymptomatically, if they test positive they can transmit it asymptomatically, which is why the government currently forces people to isolate for 14 days. Thus the idea of covid passports are illogical as they are giving people who test positive who have not quarantined the right to spread the virus in public asymptomatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said: The acceptance by the braindead masses is horrifying. It surely is. As long as they are getting their wages or furlough, as the economy comes crashing down around their ears, and can still watch Netflex and drink prosecco then they accept their imprisonment. However, more and more are getting kicked out from their insulating comforts, the lockdown becomes not so easy and acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, zArk said: well its a blatant bullshit tool i.e self isolate for 14 days but they use the test for 28 days in case of death... HELLLLOOOOO WAKE UP i say to my friends and family If after 14 days of isolation they are free to go in to the public again, are they no longer infected? If they continue to be infected but are permitted in to public despite their lingering infection. The government is basically permitting infected people to spread the virus asymptomatically through policy. Unless there is no asymptomatic transmission... Edited January 21, 2021 by SimonTV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Fire at Serum Institute: 5 killed, Covishield vaccine manufacturing unaffected At least five people were killed when a fire broke out in an under-construction building in Serum Institute of India's campus in Pune. The fire did not affect the production of the Covid-19 vaccine, the company has said. At least people lost their lives when a major fire broke out at the Serum Institute of India (SII), Pune on Thursday afternoon. The fire broke out in a building on the world's largest vaccine producer's 100-acre campus in the Manjri area of the city at around 2.45 pm. The exact cause of the fire is yet to be determined. The Serum Institute of India is manufacturing the Covishield vaccine developed by Oxford University and AstraZeneca https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/fire-at-serum-institute-5-killed-covishield-vaccine-manufacturing-unaffected-1761427-2021-01-21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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