Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Noctua]

I have BBC World News on in the background - run up to the inauguration.  Astounding amount of people milling about in double masks!  Eejits.

[Ergo Storm]

2 hours ago, The Illuminator said:

 

I am one of those they mention. This week I've been contacted by a journalist who works for a pharmacy magazine circular to comment on why I am vaccine hesitant. I wasnt sure to go along with it but after much soul searching decided to give my views as long as my anonymity remains. 

 

Was an interesting hour phone call.  I could've talked for so much more but tried to stick to facts and figures.

 

General gist was she wanted to know why I was vaccine hesitant.

1. Not fully tested, skipping trials, indemnity gone, profiteering big pharma ala swine flu. Mrna vaccines more dangerous cos of enhancement side effect and gave her history lesson on mRNA vaccines.

2. Weighing pro and cons of taking this untested virus or taking my chances. Taking my chances won hands down and gave her all the reasoning like manipulated data, fear mongering in MSM.

 3. Lockdown is completely wrong and told her why her and gave her real lowdown on numbers like missed cancer diagnosis, suicides etc. .

 

4. Use of mass testing on industrial size using dodgy tests is wrong and why.

 

5. In not conforming for the sake of my children. This is not the future I want for them. Went in to explain why. 5. Then went on to explain global reset, 4th industrial revolution, Davos, agenda 2030, Bill Gates foundation. Basically she got it all without me going anywhere near any fringe stuff and kept it all real. Graphs numbers etc. Studies articles peer reviewed studies.

 

6. Gave her a comprehensive list of sources and people who are speaking out and talked to her about the great Barrington Declaration.

 

7. BLM is a distraction tool and I believe that it's been used to distract people from delving too much into anti lockdown etc. Getting brainwashed into thinking anyone who speaks out against lockdowns etc is racist. Wtf?

 

NEVER TALK TO JOURNALISTS.  EVER.  The journalist you spoke to will almost-certainly misrepresent you in the story and make you look misinformed, and may even try to present you as crazy or stupid.

 

Perhaps this will be one of the exceptions.  I hope so, but unless it is some sort of alternative publication that is open to these views (in which case, why do they need to speak to you at all?), their job nowadays is to propagandise.  Journalism, academia, even rigorous fields such as the law and medicine, are now churches and rest on dogma.

[Michael]

1 hour ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

They ARE the enemy.

You can check back on my posts going back to last summer stating this.

A few on here told me I was wrong and should be more compassionate towards the braindead when I said they were as big a danger to us as the vermin perpetrating the covid hoax as their compliance was going to take us all down with them.

I said it then and I'll say it again.....In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.

fuck the lot of 'em........can't wait to see 'em all eventually keeling over after their injections.

 

I totally get your sentiment.

Actions cause consequences and right now many people are not aware of their consequences.

If an uninformed human being that clearly has no idea what he or she is talking about talks nonsense on any forum, social media or even does simple things like clicking the like button to an extended lockdown video, it has an effect. Its not an immediatly visible effect, but it does have an effect to some degree.

Same goes with masks. One might think, what harm does it to simply put on a mask for 15 minutes, if it makes your life easier right?

Well, in the summary of things you contribute to the problems we have right now if you go along with it.

Thats why every voice counts, every action matters.

This is also the reason why i get so fed up with comments on social media platforms that are dumber than bread.

Uninformed but a big mouth.

Its especially hard with people you know. I really need to keep myself together when they repeat the nonsense that was fed to them by the MSM.

[rideforever]

From UK Column Today:

 

 

[Frankieboy]

18 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Covid Marshal Says No Running Allowed Outside Along the Waterfront Because of Heavy Breathing

 

I would have said "your wife didn`t mind the heavybreathing when I was doing her from behind"

[Ergo Storm]

2 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

They ARE the enemy.

You can check back on my posts going back to last summer stating this.

A few on here told me I was wrong and should be more compassionate towards the braindead when I said they were as big a danger to us as the vermin perpetrating the covid hoax as their compliance was going to take us all down with them.

I said it then and I'll say it again.....In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.

fuck the lot of 'em........can't wait to see 'em all eventually keeling over after their injections.

 

I agree with you to an extent, but I think you are being harsh.  There are nuances in social behaviour that we ought to bear in mind.  You are demanding that people stop earning for their families, and take the consequences, in the face of authoritative advice and instructions from the government and medical experts.  That's a tall order.  I think it stands to reason that we will only ever be a minority.

 

I have been harassed by ordinary security guards in a supermarket.  It was very unpleasant.  I have no sympathy for these security guards, store managers, police officers and other official types who deliberately initiate incidents and create issues.  In regard to those people, I am in agreement with what you say and if anything I would go further and propose that there should be criminal trials not just for the politicians, psychologists and medical experts, but also for the ordinary petty authoritarians.  

 

I also agree with you (you don't say this in so many words, but I think you are implying this) that there is not enough agency and autonomy among decision-makers in British society.  It is especially disappointing to see this in police officers, who are public office-holders and are supposed to refuse any order or instruction they believe is unlawful or questionable.  We may now need completely new police forces.  As far as I am concerned, any police officer who enforces these regulations is not a proper police officer serving his community in the Peelite tradition; he is just a state gendarme and may as well go full paramilitary and be awarded a pistol.

 

Where I part company with you is that I think there are perfectly decent and hardworking people who, due to the need to be seen to conform in order to keep their jobs or businesses, have no effective practical choice but to do along with it.  These people don't abuse or harass or bother anybody else, or if their jobs or roles require them to approach non-compliant individuals and they are being watched to make sure they do, then they go about it fairly, professionally and honesty, with respect for the other person's dignity.  I have no problem with such people.  If anything, I pity them and accord them sympathy.  Yes, it means we can't respect them as much as we might have done in the past, but there is no need for us to view them harshly.

 

And forgive me for making this personal, but you have mentioned several times that you are 71 years old.  I assume you are retired.  I have to say, it is easy for you to sit there and judge things in abstract sat behind a computer, but people have bills to pay and other issues and needs and distractions and priorities and they will not be as aware as you may be of the bigger picture.

 

You argue that in an information society, there is no excuse for ignorance.  I disagree.  We are all ignorant, and the immediacy of information if anything makes us more ignorant because it becomes harder to discern what is reliable and what isn't.  Even on this thread, people are making all sorts of claims that seem quite dubious to me.  None of us know everything about everything, even important issues. In fact, nearly-all of us know only a little bit about very little.  I don't know anything important about Russia, or the folk customs of Sussex, or much about the works of David Icke, or the training regimen of David Beckham.  I am entirely ignorant of the challenges facing women street workers in Las Vegas and the surveying methodologies of the United States and Canada concerning their land border, and the parenting practices of David Cameron.  I know very little about tort in Scots law.  I can't speak Arabic or Mandarin, so I'm ignorant of those things.  I can't recite Viking verses in Old Icelandic.  I'm ignorant about quite a lot and we could be here some days as I list it all.

 

I put the rest of the population into two basic categories - Covid believers and Covid conformists.  The two categories overlap but:

 

Not all Covid believers are Covid conformists.  Some are hypocrites who break the rules; some loudly call for restrictions but won't themselves submit to the vaccine because they know it's high risk.

 

Not all Covid conformists are Covid believers.  Some see through it but comply anyway for various reasons.  Others don't see through it as such, but they sense something isn't quite right, yet they comply anyway. 

 

The reasons for compliance can often be that people believe that social conformity is a good in itself, within reason.  Thus, if the Prime Minister went on the TV today and instructed everybody who is not suffering symptoms that at 12 p.m. every Friday they are to do handstands while rubbing their tummies as the SAGE committee has reported that this alleviates the effect of the latent Covid virus, some would consider it important that they do their best to comply because that makes them good people, irrespective of whether the instruction makes sense.

 

You and I may think this is fucking barmy, but not everybody thinks like we do.

Edited January 20, 2021 by Ergo Storm

[oddsnsods]

 

 

[Fluke]

 

[Velma]

28 minutes ago, Frankieboy said:

I would have said "your wife didn`t mind the heavybreathing when I was doing her from behind"

 

Out of laughs!

[Frankieboy]

 

[oddsnsods]

[Ziggy Sawdust]

7 minutes ago, Fluke said:

 

 

Absolutely spot on video from Devlin.

I took part in the poll tax riots in Trafalgar Square in 1990.

Neither myself nor any of the guys I was alongside remotely resembled the  males of the same age today.

Not physically, mentally or spiritually.

[Ziggy Sawdust]

49 minutes ago, Frankieboy said:

I would have said "your wife didn`t mind the heavy breathing when I was doing her from behind"

 

[Mr H]

3 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

They ARE the enemy.

You can check back on my posts going back to last summer stating this.

A few on here told me I was wrong and should be more compassionate towards the braindead when I said they were as big a danger to us as the vermin perpetrating the covid hoax as their compliance was going to take us all down with them.

I said it then and I'll say it again.....In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.

fuck the lot of 'em........can't wait to see 'em all eventually keeling over after their injections.

I was probably one of those telling you to be more compassionate!! :) 

 

Fact is it's been a year now.....and also have to accept that everyone is free to make their own choices. But if these choices leads to others' enslavement after making that choice, then the battle lines must be drawn - even if the intention by the Cabal is to do this division - it's a necessary one at this point in time.......

[Mr H]

7 hours ago, alexa said:

 

They are, it's us vs them now, but wait a mo, isn't this what these shits have always done 'Divide & Conquer'? Maybe we should hold our horses by calling them the enemy, we could always try to get the truth to them first, but saying this I reckon a lot are waking up now, if not now they soon will when they make this toxic vaccine mandatory. This will sort the shepherds out from the sheep. 

Yes I understand not playing into the divide and conquer game ....but it seems like the cabal are going for the end game now.....seems like the rules have changed, division the inevitable consequence...

[Mr H]

And just thinking about the vaccine, excuse my language but why the fuck would anyone get injected with something they don't know what's in it, not been properly tested, little recourse should things go wrong and by the manufacturer's own admission - may not even work for said intended purpose.

 

Sometimes I like to write these things out so I can compute how utterly insane some of these propositions are....and how insane those are who partake in such activities......

 

 

[Fluke]

50 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Absolutely spot on video from Devlin.

I took part in the poll tax riots in Trafalgar Square in 1990.

Neither myself nor any of the guys I was alongside remotely resembled the  males of the same age today.

Not physically, mentally or spiritually.

 

Is that you zig at 2:39 with the perm carrying the wounded ?

 

 

Definitely always been sheep for thousands of years mate but I think my dad's generation would agree.  Capable of questioning tedious rules and breaking them all the same. My great nan who would have been in her 100s now if still alive my god different breed. 

 

The lunacy out and about today around Essex was astonishing. Getting more insane by the day. 

 

 

 

 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

5 minutes ago, Fluke said:

 

Is that you zig at 2:39 with the perm carrying the wounded ?

 

 

Definitely always been sheep for thousands of years mate but I think my dad's generation would agree.  Capable of questioning tedious rules and breaking them all the same. My great nan who would have been in her 100s now if still alive my god different breed. 

 

The lunacy out and about today around Essex was astonishing. Getting more insane by the day. 

 

 

 

 

 

That's me at 6.48 nicking the guitar!

[Liberty]

1 hour ago, oddsnsods said:

And then if they die whilst on holiday and it is proven to be vaccine related they could be liable.  I don’t think it would indemnify them. Hoping some good lawyers look at this. 

[vinny79]

Here is hoping Saga holidays go bust very quickly

 

along with all of the major supermarkets and any other company enforcing bullshit

 

 

[SimonTV]

[Clubsandwich]

 

 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

7 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

[rideforever]

[Tinfoil Hat]

I feel no anger towards people who are completely fooled. I think many are just gentle, trusting souls who could never conceive of the evil afoot in the world. Bless them.

 

I feel rage against the ignorant, bullyboys belligerently trying to ridicule 'anti-vaxers'. Set of despicable, spineless cunts who make damned sure they never get within earshot in the flesh of any person who could tie them up in knots with proven facts.

 

Edit to add that I don't use sanitiser other than soap & water, but if any sniggering little gits tricked any of my family into supergluing their hands together, I'd hunt them down and feed them a tube.

Edited January 20, 2021 by Tinfoil Hat