eddy64 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 same with the nhs they got bonuses for putting people on the Liverpool care pathway and killing them off through starvation or dehydration and they had the cheek to call it excellent care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooth Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 @GarethIcke https://truepundit.com/exclusive-bill-gates-negotiated-100-billion-contact-tracing-deal-with-democratic-congressman-sponsor-of-bill-six-months-before-coronavirus-pandemic/ PLEASE put this out there ASAP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Here's an example of journalism at it's worst from infowars.com ...I'm not talking about the content , but the presentation ....A page is devoted to this article ..... NEW YORK UNDERCOVER NURSE CONFIRMS COVID-19 CRIMINAL HOAX Learn the truth behind coronavirus... Erin Marie Olszewski is a nurse turned investigative journalist who has spent the last few months on the frontlines of the coronavirus pandemic where she experienced the situation from two radically different settings. Olszewski worked at two hospitals, one private, the other public, one in Florida, the other in New York and not just any New York public hospital, but the “epicenter of the epicenter” itself, the infamous Elmhurst in Donald Trump’s Queens...... The article waffles on , but never tells you what this investigator discovered ..You have to watch the video , over 1 hr long to find out .... I watched the first part... Bottom line, hospitals are diagnosing corona even though repeated tests of the same patient show infection absent .... because the hospital gets more money ... patients are put on ventilators and die as a result ...other malpractice by mostly incompetent , sometimes corrupt medical staff .. https://www.infowars.com/new-york-undercover-nurse-confirms-covid-19-criminal-hoax/ The video is also on davidicke.com ... https://davidicke.com/2020/06/10/undercover-nurse-exposes-what-is-really-happening-with-covid-19-pandemic/ the presentation there is even worse ... just the video and no text .... Infowars and davidicke.com have become a joke ...zero news , zero journalism , just videos ... one person employed full time writing articles would transform both sites ... Edited June 11, 2020 by oz93666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scowie Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, oz93666 said: Here's an example of journalism at it's worst from infowars.com ...I'm not talking about the content , but the presentation ....A page is devoted to this article ..... I just watched that. It may be long but it is worth taking the time. I watched it via the link Staeld posted earlier on brighteon, so you could spread that url around instead if the infowars site is annoying: 3 hours ago, Staeld said: If this is woman is genuine its truly shocking. New York Undercover Nurse Confirms COVID-19 Criminal Hoax https://www.brighteon.com/bf73cb16-4d16-4c4c-a809-86792ed416e1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, motleyhoo said: I posted about my Doctor visit earlier today. It was like walking into a Dystopian nightmare in a science fiction novel. The only thing I was thinking of the entire time I was there was getting the hell out of that fucking place. But here's what I learned. The insurance companies have created this giant money making scheme, selling Covid insurance to literally thousands of corporations and businesses in case someone tries to sue them over their Corona virus prevention practises. So, now all these companies, and it's pretty much every major company in the US have to continue the insane Covid dystopian science fiction looking nonsense of masks, disinfectant, social distancing, contact history questionnaires, and all the other nightmarish insane bullshit because of their insurance and not wanting to get sued. It's now the insurance companies dictating all the insane anti-Covid measures and fear-mongering that is going to continue now in perpetuity long after Corona virus is complete history, because now there's literally many hundreds of dollars at stake just because of insurance. This whole system needs to be torn down and set on fire. The people behind this madness need to be swinging from light poles. We will boycott all of those insurance companies and not answer their questionnaire. Feed them bullshit like they do to us, about who you have come into contact with. F them. Contact tracer sell out: Who did you come into contact with today? Us: Your mom. She said to tell you hi and to get your ass home to finish those dishes. Oh I also saw Elvis today too. And John Wayne, he came back from the dead and sold me one of his guns, do you want to see it? We can't let it get like this: https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/covid-19-contact-tracker-training-telling-people-to-quarantine-may-be-mandated-and-enforced?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=4ddddfb446-UPDATE-FREEDOM-VAX-EXUKCAN-6-10-20&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-4ddddfb446-407167110&fbclid=IwAR3PUmsNe5RWb7i004ljcNbiiW7cmJQ5x2pyrx9cSV3dVPe0Qzg5XRfL93s Edited June 11, 2020 by Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Thing is with all of this is that it's all coming back in the winter so no matter how much we discuss it all round 2 is on its way and I cant help but feel we are just sitting ducks here because once the 2nd wave is under way we are all going to be in lockdown again with the majority buying every word of what the tv tells them. Maybe I'm just frustrated with it all but short term atleast just feel there isnt an actual plan of action or anything. Just feel like we are sitting here waiting for round 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Staeld said: If this is woman is genuine its truly shocking. New York Undercover Nurse Confirms COVID-19 Criminal Hoax US Army Extremely corrupt. Here is their psychological operations training. https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/intelligence-and-combat-support/psychological-operations-specialist.html I would love to pick her brain on what she saw in Iraq under Iraqi "freedom" where she helped set up hospitals. Nice propaganda making her and the Army sound good. I am very interested to examine "covid" patients medical history and what they have in their pantry and refrigerator. Take me through your day Mr or Mrs covid patient and tell me what you eat. Do you smoke cigarettes? Do you vape? Oh that's another thing. Ok so let me back up, I thought of this today. There has been a battle to legalize cannabis in the USA in many states. Some states have succeeded, others not so much as it's not as important to them. But the first step was the cbd oils for medicinal purposes. BUT, some companies were selling cbd oil cut with e-acetate. Fast forward about eight years after so many people have switched to vaping from smoking, believing the hype about vaping being safer for your lungs. Then last year so many people began to have lung or RESPIRATORY problems from the e-acetate additive. Now all the sudden corona "virus" just so happens to be a "respiratory" dis-ease. Makes me think there is a link between the vaping and corona "virus" so that the cabal can come back and say, see, this cannabis stuff is actually bad for you we need to make it illegal again. Now that they have their new cash cow with corona virus they can attack the cannabis industry again. I never went to the vape, I knew it was dangerous. It's stupid all those dumb flavors. So many sheep needed to put something in their mouth I think, like sucking their thumb or they missed their baby bottle. Bunch of adult children. The plant is about healing and expanding the mind, not the latest flavor. Sure I enjoy a blueberry kush as much as the next guy or girl who smokes, but I can also be plenty happy with that old school maui wowie or Jamacian gold. The Indian tribes smoked from wood and stone pipes, and sometimes bone. None of this metal electronic vapor flavored crap. No wonder people's lungs are failing. And guess what, surgeon general said decades ago that cigarettes "may" cause cancer, but millions of fools still smoking that poison, and littering the butts too. So not only are they getting cancer, they are littering the filter that collects all the worst parts of the chemicals put in tobacco. Thanks litterbugs! Assholes. Anyway, some random thoughts on this whole corona BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The lockdown rules clarified by Boris. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 This is just dam right insane Baby Covid Kidnapping https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=KX2KRA9XYD9M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 15 hours ago, motleyhoo said: So, I just did my bi-yearly med-check and general well-being visit with my Neurologist (I have severe RLS). Had to pull up between a section of cones, and could not exit my vehicle until I filled out a questionnaire regarding my possible exposure to Covid-19. Then, could not enter the building until I put on a mask and had my temperature checked. Upon entering, it looked like a scene from a science fiction movie. Tape and arrows and footprint stickers everywhere. All chairs set 6 feet apart. Giant plastic windows in front of every counter. A masked person going around spraying down every chair anyone just got out of. All "clean" chairs had a green ribbon on the arm. The whole thing was absolutely ludicrous, and the dark vibrations I felt were so bad I just could not wait to get out of there. Not to mention, it felt like I could not breath through that damn thing. I put it below my nose and breathed through my nose. As soon as my Doctor was done with me, I took the mask off and dropped it in a trash pale. What were they going to do, throw me out before I went to the checkout window? I swear, I just wanted to look up at the ceiling and scream "What the fuck is wrong with all of you people???" Frustrating - A lot of people are still in shock! from the government overreaction to this, the lockdown, removal of rights, the terror threat! The nervous system gets blocked for a while and many become docile plastic people. 13 hours ago, zArk said: acting as if its a bacterial pathogen.... all recommendations , all practices are for a deadly highly infectious bacteria the people dont realise this, for them theres no difference between virus, fungi or bacteria During this whatever you want to call it! autopsies were not allowed initially - because they can assess via histopathology (study of infected tissues) the empirical evidence and arrive at an accurate assessment and then work out the direction. In Germany, Italy and in India they recently started performing autopsies which revealed that the severe cases were indeed bacterial infection. Apparantly chlamydia pneumonia foe the worst cases who also seem to have other co-morbidity's https://principia-scientific.org/cv-19-autopsies-show-blood-clots-a-bacterial-not-viral-disease/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 10 hours ago, motleyhoo said: I posted about my Doctor visit earlier today. It was like walking into a Dystopian nightmare in a science fiction novel. The only thing I was thinking of the entire time I was there was getting the hell out of that fucking place. But here's what I learned. The insurance companies have created this giant money making scheme, selling Covid insurance to literally thousands of corporations and businesses in case someone tries to sue them over their Corona virus prevention practises. So, now all these companies, and it's pretty much every major company in the US have to continue the insane Covid dystopian science fiction looking nonsense of masks, disinfectant, social distancing, contact history questionnaires, and all the other nightmarish insane bullshit because of their insurance and not wanting to get sued. It's now the insurance companies dictating all the insane anti-Covid measures and fear-mongering that is going to continue now in perpetuity long after Corona virus is complete history, because now there's literally many hundreds of dollars at stake just because of insurance. This whole system needs to be torn down and set on fire. The people behind this madness need to be swinging from light poles. Pandemic bonds! 11% yield! - and yeah, agree this is selective profiteering and simultaneous asset stripping! Heres hoping the light pole business gets a boom! ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Dentist Another dentist told me today that they are opening on Monday. And they have a moron jelly bean traffic light system or red, amber and apple green just like on Playschool. And the jellybean meter is on red right now. Although in Europe all the dentists went back to work on 20th Apr, 7 or 8 weeks ago ... the sadistic NHS mafia haven't extracted enough pain out of people yet ... we didn't clap hard enough for them to do any work. On Monday there will be 1 dentist per floor seeing 1/3 of the patients therefore running at 1/6th capacity or 16% capacity. This way they can masturbate themselves a little more. I sense some of the staff know it's useless. Creates "aerosols" apparently. Very bad. AEROOSOLS seems to be some new buzzword that the living dead are chirping about along with PPE and FLATTENING. Yesterday I heard that VACCINATIONS cannot be sued in the courts because the country underwrites them and that's why big pharma prioritizes them - they fear the court - they fear that someone might notice that their medicine is making things worse. Anyway, isn't the NHS run by these slimey management types who do everything to protect themselves from being sued in the court ? Therefore you must be extra extra extra double extra same and have a 3 hour lunch break between half-dead patients so that you can surf the internet are read up about the Hippocratic Oath and satan worshipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Of the 3000 or so fully private dental practices operating in the UK people in the profession estimate a significant portion will declare bankrupcy in the near future, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 12 hours ago, Jack said: They control the narrative. It's not a question of we should have have followed Swedens Model but we need to lock down earlier and have track and trace and implement measures like they do in China and S Korea. And everyone wants him to be PM now. The 2nd wave is going to be strict. Ferguson said he could have saved 10s of 1000s of lives if they locked down earlier. Everyone wants Rory Stewart as PM now - feckin' hell, I don't. Yes, I can see the second lockdown being stricter and longer to force the uptake of the vaccine. Prof. Neil Shagger Ferguson giving an opinion about the start of the lockdown, when he broke his own lockdown at least twice for a shag. Rory Stewart forgets to mention the Hong Kong flu pandemic in 1968-69 which killed 80,000 in the UK and life went on without a lockdown and nobody wore toilet paper face masks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem child Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Staeld said: If this is woman is genuine its truly shocking. New York Undercover Nurse Confirms COVID-19 Criminal Hoax https://www.brighteon.com/bf73cb16-4d16-4c4c-a809-86792ed416e1 Thanks for this, Ive watched so many vids throughout this whole saga but for me this is the most compelling. The way she describes the rest of the staff and doctors as wanting to please those above, following procedures only and not treating patients as individuals just resonates with me and reminds me of similar jobs. Fairplay to her for going against the grain. Must be horrendous working amongst all that. I would like to think it is all incompetence, ignorance and a misunderstanding of treatment but its clear its way more sinister. Shared with my friends and family, zero replies......I think they may have reached their limit of patience with me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Upbeat music in the face of the extinction of the high street. (From DI news) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=184&v=Oz-WKhQJj3Q&feature=emb_title People have already rearranged their lives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem child Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Messenger said: US Army Extremely corrupt. Here is their psychological operations training. https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/intelligence-and-combat-support/psychological-operations-specialist.html I would love to pick her brain on what she saw in Iraq under Iraqi "freedom" where she helped set up hospitals. Nice propaganda making her and the Army sound good. I am very interested to examine "covid" patients medical history and what they have in their pantry and refrigerator. Take me through your day Mr or Mrs covid patient and tell me what you eat. Do you smoke cigarettes? Do you vape? Oh that's another thing. Ok so let me back up, I thought of this today. There has been a battle to legalize cannabis in the USA in many states. Some states have succeeded, others not so much as it's not as important to them. But the first step was the cbd oils for medicinal purposes. BUT, some companies were selling cbd oil cut with e-acetate. Fast forward about eight years after so many people have switched to vaping from smoking, believing the hype about vaping being safer for your lungs. Then last year so many people began to have lung or RESPIRATORY problems from the e-acetate additive. Now all the sudden corona "virus" just so happens to be a "respiratory" dis-ease. Makes me think there is a link between the vaping and corona "virus" so that the cabal can come back and say, see, this cannabis stuff is actually bad for you we need to make it illegal again. Now that they have their new cash cow with corona virus they can attack the cannabis industry again. I never went to the vape, I knew it was dangerous. It's stupid all those dumb flavors. So many sheep needed to put something in their mouth I think, like sucking their thumb or they missed their baby bottle. Bunch of adult children. The plant is about healing and expanding the mind, not the latest flavor. Sure I enjoy a blueberry kush as much as the next guy or girl who smokes, but I can also be plenty happy with that old school maui wowie or Jamacian gold. The Indian tribes smoked from wood and stone pipes, and sometimes bone. None of this metal electronic vapor flavored crap. No wonder people's lungs are failing. And guess what, surgeon general said decades ago that cigarettes "may" cause cancer, but millions of fools still smoking that poison, and littering the butts too. So not only are they getting cancer, they are littering the filter that collects all the worst parts of the chemicals put in tobacco. Thanks litterbugs! Assholes. Anyway, some random thoughts on this whole corona BS. yea ive been waiting for the effects of vaping to occur. it causes 'popcornlung' .... great name. Of course cancer research has stated that there is no evidence that it does....no bias there then! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 58 minutes ago, serpentine said: Of the 3000 or so fully private dental practices operating in the UK people in the profession estimate a significant portion will declare bankrupcy in the near future, Quite a few dentists also get into the care home business as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, serpentine said: Upbeat music in the face of the extinction of the high street. (From DI news) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=184&v=Oz-WKhQJj3Q&feature=emb_title People have already rearranged their lives. Holy shit that is all fucked up beyond recognition,what a bunch of nob-ends!!!!!! very funny and sad at the same time, what a load of complete fuckwittery??? Those councellors? All following orders? Just like the nazis did leading the jews for their 'showers'. I find it funny that Mr Icke lives on that very island, I hope he fucking sticks the 'knowing' to anyone that complains to him about social distancing and obidience to dumb-ass rules. - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, serpentine said: Upbeat music in the face of the extinction of the high street. (From DI news) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=184&v=Oz-WKhQJj3Q&feature=emb_title People have already rearranged their lives. What a nonsense, 2 metre distance warning signs and markers, parking spaces closed off. No wonder Amazon shares have been motoring and are at a new all time high today of $2,647 (£2047). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, zarkov said: During this whatever you want to call it! autopsies were not allowed initially - because they can assess via histopathology (study of infected tissues) the empirical evidence and arrive at an accurate assessment and then work out the direction. In Germany, Italy and in India they recently started performing autopsies which revealed that the severe cases were indeed bacterial infection. Apparantly chlamydia pneumonia foe the worst cases who also seem to have other co-morbidity's https://principia-scientific.org/cv-19-autopsies-show-blood-clots-a-bacterial-not-viral-disease/ polymorphism of cells is a reality. cells go through cycles when the body dies the cycle is stopped our bodies has bacteria on skin and inside skin. in stomach, legs everywhere bacteria is functional to health a healthy body keeps all pathogens in controlled amounts if this corona panic was really a bacterial pathogen the deaths would already be in the millons for uk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) This is from the dailyslime just now: Is Britain's Covid-19 death toll HALF of the 50,000 already recorded? Expert claims official tally may be too high because doctors are too keen to name the virus on death certificates and most victims were going to die anyway because they were elderly Professor Karol Sikora said death registration in Britain was 'woeful' He said doctors could register deaths as Covid-19 when there was 'any hint' of it He suggested the Covid-19 death toll for this reason is probably far lower Department of Health statistics show 41,128 Britons have died with a positive test Other data shows 51,000 have died from confirmed or suspected Covid-19 Published: 11:57, 11 June 2020 | Updated: 12:23, 11 June 2020 Britain's actual coronavirus death toll could be half of the 50,000 already recorded, according to one expert. Professor Karol Sikora, a former World Health Organization (WHO) cancer adviser, said doctors may put the virus on death certificates if there was 'any hint' it could have been the cause, without hard proof. And many of the victims who died at the height of the pandemic could have died by the summer anyway because they were in old age, he said. Therefore, he suggested the statistics should be inspected in closer detail to see if the coronavirus has truly caused as many deaths as believed. Department of Health statistics show 41,128 Britons have died after testing positive for the virus since the outbreak began. But other data — compiled by statistical bodies of each of the home nations — show at least 51,000 people have died from confirmed or suspected Covid-19. This count, which is 24 per cent higher than Number 10's, takes into account anyone who has died with the disease mentioned on their death certificate. Professor Sikora's claim came has come under fire online, with Australian epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz saying on Twitter: 'What an atrocious take. If anything the evidence runs in the opposite direction.' Professor Karol Sikora, a former World Health Organization cancer adviser, said doctors would be putting the virus on death Edited June 11, 2020 by sickofallthebollocks added description to post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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motleyhoo Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 8 hours ago, oz93666 said: The article waffles on , but never tells you what this investigator discovered ..You have to watch the video , over 1 hr long to find out .... I watched the first part... Bottom line, hospitals are diagnosing corona even though repeated tests of the same patient show infection absent .... because the hospital gets more money ... patients are put on ventilators and die as a result ...other malpractice by mostly incompetent , sometimes corrupt medical staff .. https://www.infowars.com/new-york-undercover-nurse-confirms-covid-19-criminal-hoax/ The video also has recorded evidence that hospital administrators were intentionally putting non-infected people in the rooms of infected people, as if they wanted to try to get them infected. And the whole time that was going on the media and the hospitals were telling us Covid people were separated in quarantine. The amount of fraud that has been going on is just off the charts. I am on record on here all the way back in February saying that all of this was going to be happening. They gave us so many dots to connect back then that it was rather intuitive to predict what all the next dots were going to be. You just had to look at everything they would have to do maximize the appearance of a pandemic in order to fool everyone, and calling every sick person a Covid victim, and ever death a Covid death was obvious. I missed the ventilator thing. maybe it was to intentionally cause the deaths of elderly patients, but more likely it was a ply to increase the fear, making it look like Covid was so deadly that people have to be put on ventilators. And then we have the ventilator company, which before was a really small market, now making millions of dollars manufacturing and filling huge ventilator contracts for ventilators that are not actually going to be used anymore. Look, I am not a social media person. I don't have any social media accts and I don't want any. But, we need to get a giant river of this kind of information going through social media where the normies hang out so they can see this. Yeah, they're trying to censor it, but they can't stop it all. So, what I am asking for is, everyone on here who can, PLEASE post as much of this stuff as you can over there on those site, but you CANNOT present it in a way that will immediately turn those brainwashed people off, like starting it out with INFOWARS or ALEX JONES. You have to leave that part out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyhoo Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Messenger said: We will boycott all of those insurance companies and not answer their questionnaire. Feed them bullshit like they do to us, about who you have come into contact with. F them. Contact tracer sell out: Who did you come into contact with today? Us: Your mom. She said to tell you hi and to get your ass home to finish those dishes. Oh I also saw Elvis today too. And John Wayne, he came back from the dead and sold me one of his guns, do you want to see it? We can't let it get like this: https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/covid-19-contact-tracker-training-telling-people-to-quarantine-may-be-mandated-and-enforced?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=4ddddfb446-UPDATE-FREEDOM-VAX-EXUKCAN-6-10-20&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-4ddddfb446-407167110&fbclid=IwAR3PUmsNe5RWb7i004ljcNbiiW7cmJQ5x2pyrx9cSV3dVPe0Qzg5XRfL93s I didn't tell them anything. I just answered "No" to every single question, mostly because I was pissed off about the whole thing, because there is no Covid-19 spreading around now, Corona season is over. I'm really sick and tired and fed up with being surrounded by manufactured hysteria and the millions of idiots going along with it like it's the new normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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