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I have now been called to the final vaccination deadline as a health care professional. I informed my employer that these vaccines are not technically vaccines, but are "gene therapies" as they employ

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2 hours ago, SimonTV said:

whatsapp blocked a video i uploaded showing the woman with the shakes from the vaccine. Move to signal, telegram and gab.

 

When the masonic mass media start openly discussing the 'alternatives' to Facebook and Twitter etc. on TV news, as they did do recently, then you just know that this is what the PTB want to happen. They are effectively quarantining the hardcore sheeple. Sure, folks should try to find somewhere else to speak freely, but they should at least also try to keep one foot in the mainstream, social media camp. Just be a bit more careful in how they go about things. A little bit thought can go an awful long way.

 

36 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

UK Column, coincidentally, have also picked up today on what they say is a strong correlation between flu vaccine take up and higher incidences of Covid-19. They explored this in today's broadcast from around 8:00 in the video below.

 

I will watch it later. Did they mention anything about Long Covid? From what I can tell, there now seems to be a concerted effort, by the masonic mass media, to push the idea of Long Covid very hard into the minds of Joe Public. This is  obviously so they can blame vaccine side effects on Long Covid. Quite ridiculous really, as a lot of these soon-to-be vaccine damaged folks will never have been ill with anything, not even flu or pneumonia, to begin with.

 

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Just had yet another very odd conversation with a total believer who has just had the first jab. Apparently I'm a bad person who is putting those around me in danger by not having the jab. Forget that it doesn't stop you contracting or  transmitting the virus, that the people taking this untested new tech vaccine are unwitting guinea pigs or that previous coronavirus vaccines have caused deadly cytokine storms in test animals. Her interaction was utterly simplistic. I'm good you're bad. I despair

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My strategy for now is to wait. Current measures at some point will lead to a major social, economic meltdown. More people will then start to ask questions. Whichever way you look at it, the present approach has no permanent back-up system to substitute the erosion of society and the economy. As it is now, a large number if people still feel they're being protected and assisted. Most of these people exhibit symptoms of psychological fear, obvious to a more qualified psychologist. The way they recoil and step back or pull their covers on their mouth. Putting it very bluntly, thousands of people are suffering paranoia, hyperchondria and instability. It's similar to cult victims who we heard of in the 1970s - Moonies, for example. It doesn't affect me at all. I suffered a major breakdown decades ago and am now far less vulnerable to socially transmitted stress disorders. Yet, I recognise stress reaction when I see it. To treat it is very difficult indeed. 

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2 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said:

Just had yet another very odd conversation with a total believer who has just had the first jab. Apparently I'm a bad person who is putting those around me in danger by not having the jab. Forget that it doesn't stop you contracting or  transmitting the virus, that the people taking this untested new tech vaccine are unwitting guinea pigs or that previous coronavirus vaccines have caused deadly cytokine storms in test animals. Her interaction was utterly simplistic. I'm good you're bad. I despair

 

I would ask  if they believe you/we everyone has a "right to life". If they say yes then thats OK and walk away, end of point.

If they insist that you must be vaccinated by compulsion then their thinking process is erroneous.

If you have no choice then you have no right to life.

Rights are inalienable. Rights are permanent. If they can be removed even temporarily then they are not rights.

 

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36 minutes ago, numnuts said:

I will watch it later. Did they mention anything about Long Covid? From what I can tell, there now seems to be a concerted effort, by the masonic mass media, to push the idea of Long Covid very hard into the minds of Joe Public. This is  obviously so they can blame vaccine side effects on Long Covid. Quite ridiculous really, as a lot of these soon-to-be vaccine damaged folks will never have been ill with anything, not even flu or pneumonia, to begin with.

 

I don't recall them mentioning anything about Long Covid yet. As Dr Vernon Coleman has said, it is not unusual for people to continue to experience longer term symptoms after a bout of flu or similar respiratory illness - one of the names for it is post-viral fatigue syndrome. But, with flu apparently being rebranded into Covid-19, post-viral fatigue syndrome is similarly becoming "Long Covid".

 

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25 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said:

Just had yet another very odd conversation with a total believer who has just had the first jab. Apparently I'm a bad person who is putting those around me in danger by not having the jab. Forget that it doesn't stop you contracting or  transmitting the virus, that the people taking this untested new tech vaccine are unwitting guinea pigs or that previous coronavirus vaccines have caused deadly cytokine storms in test animals. Her interaction was utterly simplistic. I'm good you're bad. I despair

 

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18 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

My strategy for now is to wait. Current measures at some point will lead to a major social, economic meltdown. More people will then start to ask questions. Whichever way you look at it, the present approach has no permanent back-up system to substitute the erosion of society and the economy. As it is now, a large number if people still feel they're being protected and assisted. Most of these people exhibit symptoms of psychological fear, obvious to a more qualified psychologist. The way they recoil and step back or pull their covers on their mouth. Putting it very bluntly, thousands of people are suffering paranoia, hyperchondria and instability. It's similar to cult victims who we heard of in the 1970s - Moonies, for example. It doesn't affect me at all. I suffered a major breakdown decades ago and am now far less vulnerable to socially transmitted stress disorders. Yet, I recognise stress reaction when I see it. To treat it is very difficult indeed. 

 

The people that have been psychologically hoodwinked by this pandemic operation are going to feel the psychological impact for many years to come. The ones completely unaffected by it because they have the power over what they believe will stand out like a saw thumb to these people. We find that misery loves company and they will be projecting their fear on to other people for a long time to come. I expect to see this in the years to come, where people feel uncomfortable around people that are not as psychologically affected by the operation as others. They will act this out in likely very strange ways once things start to get a bit normal again. 

 

As for waiting, I agree, the not being able to travel is probably most people's major gripe with this situation in my opinion. That may well be the primary reason for this whole thing in my opinion, the eco fascists have spoken and the peasants don't deserve to travel or have leisure as it amounts to a waste of resources. 

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13 minutes ago, zarkov said:

 

I would ask  if they believe you/we everyone has a "right to life". If they say yes then thats OK and walk away, end of point.

If they insist that you must be vaccinated by compulsion then their thinking process is erroneous.

If you have no choice then you have no right to life.

Rights are inalienable. Rights are permanent. If they can be removed even temporarily then they are not rights.

 

You're right about that but the believers appear to be disturbingly devoid of the ability to reason. In my experience so far there has been a dumbing down of the issues for believers surrounding the vax to the point where 'good' and 'bad' are the descriptors of those for and against.

 

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20 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

I don't recall them mentioning anything about Long Covid yet. As Dr Vernon Coleman has said, it is not unusual for people to continue to experience longer term symptoms after a bout of flu or similar respiratory illness - one of the names for it is post-viral fatigue syndrome.

 

Yes, but even if they rebrand the lingering effects of a severe bout of flu or pneumonia as Long Covid, then they probably still won't get close to the numbers of those suffering from vaccine damage. They will have to resort to saying 'you had asymptomatic Covid in the past and are now suffering from symptomatic Long Covid'. Crazy, but I think it will come to be. 

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I hope that in six months time I can still laugh at this

 

Haha yes very true! I might get a nice retrospective jail sentence for that. Let's meme while we still can.

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I had a horrible thought and decided to share it with you. They are compelling us to stay at home, except for specific reasons and only to exercise, for a limited period, close to home. The only the way this could be enforced is by making us wear ankle 'tags' or some equivalent, like offenders do, which activate and sound the alarm when you leave the boundary of your house, your front door. Just sayin'

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3 minutes ago, Velma said:

I had a horrible thought and decided to share it with you. They are compelling us to stay at home, except for specific reasons and only to exercise, for a limited period, close to home. The only the way this could be enforced is by making us wear ankle 'tags' or some equivalent, like offenders do, which activate and sound the alarm when you leave the boundary of your house, your front door. Just sayin'

 

Have a look at this Velma, at 2:03 minutes in

 

(920) Wow. Even I'm Blown Away by This One - and that don't Happen Often! - YouTube

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Just back from putting up some posters. Just wondering if I could get more grief for sticking them up on bus stops, walls of train stations etc, any place that might be considered private property? Additionally  telegraph poles, lamp posts public fences etc would also be considered belonging to electricity companies, local council etc . Maybe Im over thinking this but Im looking ahead to see where I might encounter some problems.

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6 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said:

You're right about that but the believers appear to be disturbingly devoid of the ability to reason. In my experience so far there has been a dumbing down of the issues for believers surrounding the vax to the point where 'good' and 'bad' are the descriptors of those for and against.

 

 

That's it exactly, many have been dumbed down to the extent that they can no longer think or are too lazy to think or thinking conflicts with their programming.

It starts at home, continues into education and is constantly reinforced by media. 

 

It is exactly why I repeat the same simple truth over and over, repetition being the same method that the state system uses to indoctrinate, to attempt to undo the indoctrination. (in vain it seems)

At the very least it is the truth.

 

Beyond that it is a case of not casting you pearls before swine as the meme goes, nor sewing seed onto infertile ground.

I encounter the same and simply have to walk away quite often and realise its better to talk to receptive folk.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Velma said:

I had a horrible thought and decided to share it with you. They are compelling us to stay at home, except for specific reasons and only to exercise, for a limited period, close to home. The only the way this could be enforced is by making us wear ankle 'tags' or some equivalent, like offenders do, which activate and sound the alarm when you leave the boundary of your house, your front door. Just sayin'

Move onto a canal boat or into a campervan and subvert their totalitarian restrictions

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10 minutes ago, zarkov said:

 

That's it exactly, many have been dumbed down to the extent that they can no longer think or are too lazy to think or thinking conflicts with their programming.

It starts at home, continues into education and is constantly reinforced by media. 

 

It is exactly why I repeat the same simple truth over and over, repetition being the same method that the state system uses to indoctrinate, to attempt to undo the indoctrination. (in vain it seems)

At the very least it is the truth.

 

Beyond that it is a case of not casting you pearls before swine as the meme goes, nor sewing seed onto infertile ground.

I encounter the same and simply have to walk away quite often and realise its better to talk to receptive folk.

 

 

Maybe you're right but when I see people that previously were reflective thinkers turned into aggressively unthinking zombies reciting the official narrative there is perhaps a moral obligation to at least try and give them an alternative perspective

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