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1 minute ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

The link says:

 

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And Google says:

 

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Were they partners?

 

I think the word used "inventor" for Drosten is the "error" as it were, of a translation. Drosten is the person that pushed the pcr thing forwards especially in Germany. That is my take on the situation with the wording.

 

My personal choice of word for Kary Mullis is that he was the CREATOR of the test, or as I am now beginning to quote more often - it is NOT a test but a Laboratory Research technique that is useful for analysing RNA / DNA material, and is currently being mis-used to the detriment of society.

Avoiding the word "fraudulent" in an attempt not to get any posting I do picked up / deleted!!!

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32 minutes ago, Brad the lad said:

One word sums up what's lacking in society today.....character.

Fuck me, is that you Brendan? Jibbed football for the Icke forum have you lad? Sound, just make sure them foxes beat the Mancs!

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7 hours ago, FrankVitali said:

omg people are such dumbfucks its unreal. i am a tough nut and dont often get emotional but fkn ell.  people aren't living anymore, they are merely existing. are they waking up yet, hello?   i am a cynic anyway but is there any light at the end of the tunnel, fat fuckin chance. ive been really fed up this week and completely disillusioned.

 

we are in a world of clowns.


It’s actually getting worse tbh, because of how long all this bs has been going on, you actually expect some form of logic or common sense to prevail.... and I don’t actually think more people are waking up, despite what some people think. it’s massively disappointing and disheartening :-( but on the other hand, if people haven’t realised 10 months later that something fuckin weird is going on, I doubt they are going to just suddenly realise now. So it’s kind of their own fault, if they’re not even considering the remote possibility of something alternative being more plausible. Don’t mean to sound judgy, and I know not everyone has the mental capacity or time/ inclination to explore and research alternative options. (People have children, busy jobs or lives with caring responsibilities or MH etc- but that’s not the case for a large proportion).  
 

there’s people on Facebook celebrating and bragging they’ve had the jab with weird hashtags and comments about getting their life back and “light at the end of the tunnel”. I almost despair at this point. No negative comments, all in agreement and excited for theirs. People in their late 20s and early 30s 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

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6 minutes ago, Concerned Citizen said:

My personal choice of word for Kary Mullis is that he was the CREATOR of the test

 

The strangeness of the timing of his death right before this casedemic began has not been lost on many people

 

Had he been here today he would have destroyed the illusion of the validity of the PCR tests as a means for detecting viral infection

 

Its like the system is discarding empirical science....instead of looking at who is presenting with symptoms the system is creating fake cases with the PCR test and instead of looking at the actual figures of people presenting with symptoms and dying with symptoms the system is using BS computer models that produce outcomes that do not marry up with reality

 

So on all fronts the system is not looking at reality itself but rather is casting a false shadow on the wall and getting everyone to look at that instead

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If you get a covid test and come back positive, they want the person to isolate for 14 days. I assume the logic is that they want to see if the person develops symptoms. Yet if no symptoms after 14 days, they are allowed to go back to work. So they admit that asymptomatic people are no risk? Once someone is infected, how long do they remain in a positive status? If there is asymptomatic transmission, then why would an infected person who has had the vaccine not remain isolated? They are only going to spread it surely? unless there is no asymptomatic transmission.

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11 minutes ago, Frankieboy said:

Lockdown light starting Monday in Switzerland

 

plus due to Whatsapp new privacy conditions i  have now deleted  whatsapp

i never had Facebook, Twitter or instram

 

so now i am not going to support any social media

 

What changed with what’s app recently ???

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The AdapNation site has, following information from medical staff, put together this summary as to the real reasons why hospitals are under pressure at present despite lower than normal bed occupancy rates and ambulance admissions. The hospitals may have less patients to deal with (and thus appear empty) but there seems to be a general state of chaos created by disastrous "pandemic" related decisions.

 

https://adapnation.io/inside-track-nhs-hospital-pressure/

 

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28 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

If you get a covid test and come back positive, they want the person to isolate for 14 days. I assume the logic is that they want to see if the person develops symptoms. Yet if no symptoms after 14 days, they are allowed to go back to work. So they admit that asymptomatic people are no risk? Once someone is infected, how long do they remain in a positive status? If there is asymptomatic transmission, then why would an infected person who has had the vaccine not remain isolated? They are only going to spread it surely? unless there is no asymptomatic transmission.

There is no contagion or infection from symptomatic people and thats whats makes the vaccine so dangerous

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Malbec said:

 

there’s people on Facebook celebrating and bragging they’ve had the jab with weird hashtags and comments about getting their life back and “light at the end of the tunnel”. I almost despair at this point. No negative comments, all in agreement and excited for theirs. People in their late 20s and early 30s 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

 

Emperor's new clothes. 

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34 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

If you get a covid test and come back positive, they want the person to isolate for 14 days. I assume the logic is that they want to see if the person develops symptoms. Yet if no symptoms after 14 days, they are allowed to go back to work. So they admit that asymptomatic people are no risk? Once someone is infected, how long do they remain in a positive status? If there is asymptomatic transmission, then why would an infected person who has had the vaccine not remain isolated? They are only going to spread it surely? unless there is no asymptomatic transmission.

 

you are looking for logic in the reasoning of people who are not motivated by logic. They are motivated by control

 

This whole things has been since the beginning a sick game of 'simon says'. I've been waiting for the time where they just say 'now we want everyone to stick their head in and oven and inhale the fumes'

 

The scientists behind the great barrington declaration have argued that only the old and infirm should have self-isolated while the rest of society carry on with work and life so that they can build up herd immunity

 

That's logical because health is pegged to GDP so if you destroy the economy you destroy health and also people need exposure to germs and pathogens to build their immune systems so the young should have carried on with life, gained exposure to whatevers going around, some would be sick-a-bed for a few days and then they carry on with life

 

But if you all self isolate and live a sterile life you are weakening your immune system and that in itself will have negative health impacts when people then mingle because they have not been keeping their immune systems sharp

 

The problem is that we live in a nanny state. But viruses mutate so the only real protection against them is a healthy immune system and the government should be putting its energies into that and i suggest a big part of that should be looking at what corporations are putting in all of their products because there are a shit ton of unhealthy things people are being exposed to.

 

We are constantly told that certain foods are unhealthy but is if the food or is it what the corporations put in it for example: preservatives, flavourings, additives, E-numbers, sweetners, colourings, antibiotics etc. So really we need to have a shift in the dialogue here towards WHAT ARE THE CORPORATIONS PUTTING IN EVERYTHING

 

So that would include asking why they are putting so many endocrine disrupting chemicals into household bedding and furnishings in the UK, why they are putting aluminium in vaccines and why they are putting nitrates and nitrites that cause cancer in meat etc etc

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Cyber Attackers Leaked Covid-19 Vaccine Data After EU Hack

 

Hackers posted confidential documents regarding Covid-19 medicines and vaccines on the internet after a data breach late last year at the European Medicines Agency.

 

Timelines related to evaluating and approving Covid medicines and vaccines haven’t been affected, the EMA said in a statement on Tuesday. The agency said it remains fully functional and that law enforcement authorities are taking action on the breach.

 

Caught up in the hack were some documents submitted by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE during regulatory review of their vaccine, approved last month. The EMA said it would notify any additional entities and individuals whose documents and personal data may have been subject to unauthorized access.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-12/covid-vaccine-documents-leaked-on-web-eu-drug-regulator-says

 

Leaked data zip file:

https://0x0.st/-rGv.zip

https://anonymousfiles.io/vN7DGOZ6/

 

pwd: Moses

 

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49 minutes ago, J47 said:
1 hour ago, Frankieboy said:

Lockdown light starting Monday in Switzerland

 

plus due to Whatsapp new privacy conditions i  have now deleted  whatsapp

i never had Facebook, Twitter or instram

 

so now i am not going to support any social media

 

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What changed with what’s app recently ???

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/whatsapp-new-privacy-terms-facebook-rules-explained-b1784469.html

hear one of the english links i found . i heard about it on Swiss Radio lots of people  now deleting Whatsup and changing to Signal and other alternatives

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56 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

whatsapp blocked a video i uploaded showing the woman with the shakes from the vaccine. Move to signal, telegram and gab.

there is also Treema It costs about $3 dollars but also safe (think it is a swiss Co so not sure if it works outsid Switzerland)

at moment try  out other alternatives to Whatsapp!

 

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Unilever workers will never return to desks full-time, says boss

Alan Jope says multinational firm will look at different working patterns after pandemic experiences

The boss of Unilever, one of the UK’s biggest companies, has said his office workers will never return to their desks five days a week, in the latest indication that coronavirus will transform modern working life.

Alan Jope, the chief executive of the consumer goods group, said the company would also encourage all of its employees to receive vaccinations against Covid-19, but would stop short of making jabs mandatory. Employees who opt not to be vaccinated, however, will face mandatory testing.

Unilever workers will never return to desks full-time, says boss | Working from home | The Guardian

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On 1/12/2021 at 8:00 PM, zarkov said:

 

@Mitochondrial Eve

That appears to reveal more than a correlation or coincidence - Thanks.

 

 

UK Column, coincidentally, have also picked up today on what they say is a strong correlation between flu vaccine take up and higher incidences of Covid-19. They explored this in today's broadcast from around 8:00 in the video below.

 

The link to the BMJ opinion they referred to (dated 4th June 2020) is here: https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m2184/rr-4.

 

This, in turn, links to the following piece (published 15th May 2020) which sets out the flu vaccine uptake rate vs Covid-19 death rates in 20 European countries: https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1932/rr-15

 

% INFLUENZA VACCINATIONS IN THE ELDERLY/COVID-19 DEATH RATES PER MILLION
Czech Republic 20.3/28 Lithuania 13.4/22
Denmark 52.0/97 Luxembourg 37.6/174
Estonia 4.8/48 Netherlands 64.0/337
Finland 48.4/55 Norway 34.4/43
France 49.7/431 Portugal 60.8/125
Germany 34.8/99 Slovak Republic 13.0/5
Hungary 26.8/49 Slovenia 11.8/51
Ireland 57.6/319 Spain 53.7/596
Italy 52.7/535 Sweden 49.4/384
Latvia 7.7/12 United Kingdom 72.6/531

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you are looking for logic in the reasoning of people who are not motivated by logic. They are motivated by control

 

This whole things has been since the beginning a sick game of 'simon says'. I've been waiting for the time where they just say 'now we want everyone to stick their head in and oven and inhale the fumes'

 

The scientists behind the great barrington declaration have argued that only the old and infirm should have self-isolated while the rest of society carry on with work and life so that they can build up herd immunity

 

That's logical because health is pegged to GDP so if you destroy the economy you destroy health and also people need exposure to germs and pathogens to build their immune systems so the young should have carried on with life, gained exposure to whatevers going around, some would be sick-a-bed for a few days and then they carry on with life

 

But if you all self isolate and live a sterile life you are weakening your immune system and that in itself will have negative health impacts when people then mingle because they have not been keeping their immune systems sharp

 

The problem is that we live in a nanny state. But viruses mutate so the only real protection against them is a healthy immune system and the government should be putting its energies into that and i suggest a big part of that should be looking at what corporations are putting in all of their products because there are a shit ton of unhealthy things people are being exposed to.

 

We are constantly told that certain foods are unhealthy but is if the food or is it what the corporations put in it for example: preservatives, flavourings, additives, E-numbers, sweetners, colourings, antibiotics etc. So really we need to have a shift in the dialogue here towards WHAT ARE THE CORPORATIONS PUTTING IN EVERYTHING

 

So that would include asking why they are putting so many endocrine disrupting chemicals into household bedding and furnishings in the UK, why they are putting aluminium in vaccines and why they are putting nitrates and nitrites that cause cancer in meat etc etc

 

It gets right to the heart of this whole farce. How long do positive people remain positive for, anyone know the official line on that? If asymptomatic people are not contagious, well then it is not special at all and none of this makes sense. If asymptomatic people are contagious forever or years etc then even if positive people have had a vaccine, they would still be contagious. Why would allowing vaccinated people to "live a normal life" not spread the virus even further (by their logic)? Surely if asymptomatic people are contagious and remain so after being vaccinated then there would be no benefit to a vaccine for asymptomatic people. They are already infected and will spread it regardless, right? If you have symptoms and you survive are you still contagious and for how long? We can't exactly quarantine healthy people on the basis of a positive test indefinitely. It is just ridiculous. 

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5 hours ago, Sexpistol50 said:

What about the homeless alcoholics, where are they gonna drink their Buckfast ?

 

You don't need to be homeless or an alcoholic to drink Buckfast, outdoors. If you know, you know...

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