SimonTV Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Came across this document on telegram is it old and previously uploaded elsewhere, it was not in the leak zip file? Edited January 13, 2021 by SimonTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 8:00 PM, zarkov said: @Mitochondrial Eve That appears to reveal more than a correlation or coincidence - Thanks. UK Column, coincidentally, have also picked up today on what they say is a strong correlation between flu vaccine take up and higher incidences of Covid-19. They explored this in today's broadcast from around 8:00 in the video below. The link to the BMJ opinion they referred to (dated 4th June 2020) is here: https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m2184/rr-4. This, in turn, links to the following piece (published 15th May 2020) which sets out the flu vaccine uptake rate vs Covid-19 death rates in 20 European countries: https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1932/rr-15 % INFLUENZA VACCINATIONS IN THE ELDERLY/COVID-19 DEATH RATES PER MILLION Czech Republic 20.3/28 Lithuania 13.4/22 Denmark 52.0/97 Luxembourg 37.6/174 Estonia 4.8/48 Netherlands 64.0/337 Finland 48.4/55 Norway 34.4/43 France 49.7/431 Portugal 60.8/125 Germany 34.8/99 Slovak Republic 13.0/5 Hungary 26.8/49 Slovenia 11.8/51 Ireland 57.6/319 Spain 53.7/596 Italy 52.7/535 Sweden 49.4/384 Latvia 7.7/12 United Kingdom 72.6/531 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Macnamara said: you are looking for logic in the reasoning of people who are not motivated by logic. They are motivated by control This whole things has been since the beginning a sick game of 'simon says'. I've been waiting for the time where they just say 'now we want everyone to stick their head in and oven and inhale the fumes' The scientists behind the great barrington declaration have argued that only the old and infirm should have self-isolated while the rest of society carry on with work and life so that they can build up herd immunity That's logical because health is pegged to GDP so if you destroy the economy you destroy health and also people need exposure to germs and pathogens to build their immune systems so the young should have carried on with life, gained exposure to whatevers going around, some would be sick-a-bed for a few days and then they carry on with life But if you all self isolate and live a sterile life you are weakening your immune system and that in itself will have negative health impacts when people then mingle because they have not been keeping their immune systems sharp The problem is that we live in a nanny state. But viruses mutate so the only real protection against them is a healthy immune system and the government should be putting its energies into that and i suggest a big part of that should be looking at what corporations are putting in all of their products because there are a shit ton of unhealthy things people are being exposed to. We are constantly told that certain foods are unhealthy but is if the food or is it what the corporations put in it for example: preservatives, flavourings, additives, E-numbers, sweetners, colourings, antibiotics etc. So really we need to have a shift in the dialogue here towards WHAT ARE THE CORPORATIONS PUTTING IN EVERYTHING So that would include asking why they are putting so many endocrine disrupting chemicals into household bedding and furnishings in the UK, why they are putting aluminium in vaccines and why they are putting nitrates and nitrites that cause cancer in meat etc etc It gets right to the heart of this whole farce. How long do positive people remain positive for, anyone know the official line on that? If asymptomatic people are not contagious, well then it is not special at all and none of this makes sense. If asymptomatic people are contagious forever or years etc then even if positive people have had a vaccine, they would still be contagious. Why would allowing vaccinated people to "live a normal life" not spread the virus even further (by their logic)? Surely if asymptomatic people are contagious and remain so after being vaccinated then there would be no benefit to a vaccine for asymptomatic people. They are already infected and will spread it regardless, right? If you have symptoms and you survive are you still contagious and for how long? We can't exactly quarantine healthy people on the basis of a positive test indefinitely. It is just ridiculous. Edited January 13, 2021 by SimonTV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Sexpistol50 said: What about the homeless alcoholics, where are they gonna drink their Buckfast ? You don't need to be homeless or an alcoholic to drink Buckfast, outdoors. If you know, you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Bet they’ll try though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, SimonTV said: whatsapp blocked a video i uploaded showing the woman with the shakes from the vaccine. Move to signal, telegram and gab. When the masonic mass media start openly discussing the 'alternatives' to Facebook and Twitter etc. on TV news, as they did do recently, then you just know that this is what the PTB want to happen. They are effectively quarantining the hardcore sheeple. Sure, folks should try to find somewhere else to speak freely, but they should at least also try to keep one foot in the mainstream, social media camp. Just be a bit more careful in how they go about things. A little bit thought can go an awful long way. 36 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: UK Column, coincidentally, have also picked up today on what they say is a strong correlation between flu vaccine take up and higher incidences of Covid-19. They explored this in today's broadcast from around 8:00 in the video below. I will watch it later. Did they mention anything about Long Covid? From what I can tell, there now seems to be a concerted effort, by the masonic mass media, to push the idea of Long Covid very hard into the minds of Joe Public. This is obviously so they can blame vaccine side effects on Long Covid. Quite ridiculous really, as a lot of these soon-to-be vaccine damaged folks will never have been ill with anything, not even flu or pneumonia, to begin with. P.S. Is it wrong to lust after Priti Patel? Edited January 13, 2021 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnarchicBreeze Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just had yet another very odd conversation with a total believer who has just had the first jab. Apparently I'm a bad person who is putting those around me in danger by not having the jab. Forget that it doesn't stop you contracting or transmitting the virus, that the people taking this untested new tech vaccine are unwitting guinea pigs or that previous coronavirus vaccines have caused deadly cytokine storms in test animals. Her interaction was utterly simplistic. I'm good you're bad. I despair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shining-one Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 My strategy for now is to wait. Current measures at some point will lead to a major social, economic meltdown. More people will then start to ask questions. Whichever way you look at it, the present approach has no permanent back-up system to substitute the erosion of society and the economy. As it is now, a large number if people still feel they're being protected and assisted. Most of these people exhibit symptoms of psychological fear, obvious to a more qualified psychologist. The way they recoil and step back or pull their covers on their mouth. Putting it very bluntly, thousands of people are suffering paranoia, hyperchondria and instability. It's similar to cult victims who we heard of in the 1970s - Moonies, for example. It doesn't affect me at all. I suffered a major breakdown decades ago and am now far less vulnerable to socially transmitted stress disorders. Yet, I recognise stress reaction when I see it. To treat it is very difficult indeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Noctua said: Fixed term contract for 23 months! Enticing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said: Just had yet another very odd conversation with a total believer who has just had the first jab. Apparently I'm a bad person who is putting those around me in danger by not having the jab. Forget that it doesn't stop you contracting or transmitting the virus, that the people taking this untested new tech vaccine are unwitting guinea pigs or that previous coronavirus vaccines have caused deadly cytokine storms in test animals. Her interaction was utterly simplistic. I'm good you're bad. I despair I would ask if they believe you/we everyone has a "right to life". If they say yes then thats OK and walk away, end of point. If they insist that you must be vaccinated by compulsion then their thinking process is erroneous. If you have no choice then you have no right to life. Rights are inalienable. Rights are permanent. If they can be removed even temporarily then they are not rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 36 minutes ago, numnuts said: I will watch it later. Did they mention anything about Long Covid? From what I can tell, there now seems to be a concerted effort, by the masonic mass media, to push the idea of Long Covid very hard into the minds of Joe Public. This is obviously so they can blame vaccine side effects on Long Covid. Quite ridiculous really, as a lot of these soon-to-be vaccine damaged folks will never have been ill with anything, not even flu or pneumonia, to begin with. I don't recall them mentioning anything about Long Covid yet. As Dr Vernon Coleman has said, it is not unusual for people to continue to experience longer term symptoms after a bout of flu or similar respiratory illness - one of the names for it is post-viral fatigue syndrome. But, with flu apparently being rebranded into Covid-19, post-viral fatigue syndrome is similarly becoming "Long Covid". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said: Just had yet another very odd conversation with a total believer who has just had the first jab. Apparently I'm a bad person who is putting those around me in danger by not having the jab. Forget that it doesn't stop you contracting or transmitting the virus, that the people taking this untested new tech vaccine are unwitting guinea pigs or that previous coronavirus vaccines have caused deadly cytokine storms in test animals. Her interaction was utterly simplistic. I'm good you're bad. I despair 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Shining-one said: My strategy for now is to wait. Current measures at some point will lead to a major social, economic meltdown. More people will then start to ask questions. Whichever way you look at it, the present approach has no permanent back-up system to substitute the erosion of society and the economy. As it is now, a large number if people still feel they're being protected and assisted. Most of these people exhibit symptoms of psychological fear, obvious to a more qualified psychologist. The way they recoil and step back or pull their covers on their mouth. Putting it very bluntly, thousands of people are suffering paranoia, hyperchondria and instability. It's similar to cult victims who we heard of in the 1970s - Moonies, for example. It doesn't affect me at all. I suffered a major breakdown decades ago and am now far less vulnerable to socially transmitted stress disorders. Yet, I recognise stress reaction when I see it. To treat it is very difficult indeed. The people that have been psychologically hoodwinked by this pandemic operation are going to feel the psychological impact for many years to come. The ones completely unaffected by it because they have the power over what they believe will stand out like a saw thumb to these people. We find that misery loves company and they will be projecting their fear on to other people for a long time to come. I expect to see this in the years to come, where people feel uncomfortable around people that are not as psychologically affected by the operation as others. They will act this out in likely very strange ways once things start to get a bit normal again. As for waiting, I agree, the not being able to travel is probably most people's major gripe with this situation in my opinion. That may well be the primary reason for this whole thing in my opinion, the eco fascists have spoken and the peasants don't deserve to travel or have leisure as it amounts to a waste of resources. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnarchicBreeze Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, zarkov said: I would ask if they believe you/we everyone has a "right to life". If they say yes then thats OK and walk away, end of point. If they insist that you must be vaccinated by compulsion then their thinking process is erroneous. If you have no choice then you have no right to life. Rights are inalienable. Rights are permanent. If they can be removed even temporarily then they are not rights. You're right about that but the believers appear to be disturbingly devoid of the ability to reason. In my experience so far there has been a dumbing down of the issues for believers surrounding the vax to the point where 'good' and 'bad' are the descriptors of those for and against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnarchicBreeze Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Illmatic said: I hope that in six months time I can still laugh at this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: I don't recall them mentioning anything about Long Covid yet. As Dr Vernon Coleman has said, it is not unusual for people to continue to experience longer term symptoms after a bout of flu or similar respiratory illness - one of the names for it is post-viral fatigue syndrome. Yes, but even if they rebrand the lingering effects of a severe bout of flu or pneumonia as Long Covid, then they probably still won't get close to the numbers of those suffering from vaccine damage. They will have to resort to saying 'you had asymptomatic Covid in the past and are now suffering from symptomatic Long Covid'. Crazy, but I think it will come to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said: I hope that in six months time I can still laugh at this Haha yes very true! I might get a nice retrospective jail sentence for that. Let's meme while we still can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnarchicBreeze Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Illmatic said: Haha yes very true! I might get a nice retrospective jail sentence for that. Let's meme while we still can. The way things are going we might all be getting jail sentences for thought crime 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, SimonTV said: That’s crazy. He doesn’t know if he’s doing right or wrong unless someone tells him. How many of them are on the planet is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I had a horrible thought and decided to share it with you. They are compelling us to stay at home, except for specific reasons and only to exercise, for a limited period, close to home. The only the way this could be enforced is by making us wear ankle 'tags' or some equivalent, like offenders do, which activate and sound the alarm when you leave the boundary of your house, your front door. Just sayin' 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Velma said: I had a horrible thought and decided to share it with you. They are compelling us to stay at home, except for specific reasons and only to exercise, for a limited period, close to home. The only the way this could be enforced is by making us wear ankle 'tags' or some equivalent, like offenders do, which activate and sound the alarm when you leave the boundary of your house, your front door. Just sayin' Have a look at this Velma, at 2:03 minutes in (920) Wow. Even I'm Blown Away by This One - and that don't Happen Often! - YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just back from putting up some posters. Just wondering if I could get more grief for sticking them up on bus stops, walls of train stations etc, any place that might be considered private property? Additionally telegraph poles, lamp posts public fences etc would also be considered belonging to electricity companies, local council etc . Maybe Im over thinking this but Im looking ahead to see where I might encounter some problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Illmatic said: Have a look at this Velma, at 2:03 minutes in (920) Wow. Even I'm Blown Away by This One - and that don't Happen Often! - YouTube Ah, I forgot about the mad professor. It's like a sci-fi horror movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said: You're right about that but the believers appear to be disturbingly devoid of the ability to reason. In my experience so far there has been a dumbing down of the issues for believers surrounding the vax to the point where 'good' and 'bad' are the descriptors of those for and against. That's it exactly, many have been dumbed down to the extent that they can no longer think or are too lazy to think or thinking conflicts with their programming. It starts at home, continues into education and is constantly reinforced by media. It is exactly why I repeat the same simple truth over and over, repetition being the same method that the state system uses to indoctrinate, to attempt to undo the indoctrination. (in vain it seems) At the very least it is the truth. Beyond that it is a case of not casting you pearls before swine as the meme goes, nor sewing seed onto infertile ground. I encounter the same and simply have to walk away quite often and realise its better to talk to receptive folk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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