oddsnsods 3,039 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) Also of course the BBC would never take into account the thousands of old people they shipped off too the homes, which of course boosted the numbers, not just in UK but most countries. Dont kill Grannie, leave her to rot instead. Edited January 12 by oddsnsods 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basket Case 2,818 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, SimonTV said: Maybe they are doing as a percentage of the population? The quote from the BBC - "Biggest rise in overall deaths since 1940" Rise from the average of what ever time period they've cherry picked.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darryl Worthington 16 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 17 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Considering the 'pandemic' and the lockdowns and travel restrictions, when did you last get to see your family in Brighton and London ? I haven't seen my niece for over a year. I saw my brother last summer. When the news hit last spring it scared the crap out of me. I thought the mainland must be apocalyptic. I quickly realised things probably were not as bad as they were being portrayed. A bit like when people around the world people thought if you visited Northern Ireland pre good Friday agreement, that you would get shot or bombed. I'm not making light of the troubles, but I certainly wasn't living in a warzone. Some parts of Belfast or Derry/Londonderry got it tough though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skitzorat 152 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Noctua said: Just because we LOVE the fact-checkers, let's just recirculate this one (COVID-19 was downgraded when more information became available about mortality rates (low overall): Was COVID-19 downgraded from being a high-consequence infectious disease? – FactCheckNI I go to them specifically to gage validity of something - the faster they're on to it and the more mental gymnastics they use to discredit - the more it convinces me there's truth somewhere. There was a clip of some guy explaining how votes can be switched - you could watch it unfolding live on CNN in slow motion, switching the numbers - blatantly subtracting them from one guy and adding to the other. CLEAR AS MUD. I googled looking for it again some time later and BOOM fact check. FALSE. votes weren't switched during Trumps election no fraud.... so I looked into what kind of circles theyd dance in, (sometimes they give some reasonable background info) and they said it was false because it didnt happen during this election, it happened in the past in some different senate election so therefore. False. hahaha Always with the "misleading" "missing context" too. Catch all phrases that are usually totally irreverent. I also love the extra "in a rush/hurry" synopsis some have at the top. For people who are even more stupid and extra lazy to be quickly fed the lies. And SNOPES fucking Snopes - it was an Urban Legends reference page FFS now the arborator of political and societal gospel truth. You just cant make this kind of shit up. Edited January 12 by skitzorat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarkov 613 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 1990 all cause mortality was 564846 England and Wales population 57,134,377 0.988% mortality as % of populace 1991 all cause mortality was 570044 " population 57,290,791 0.995% 1992 all cause mortality was 558313 " population 57,446,040 0.972% 1993 all cause mortality was 578512 " population 57,602,278 1.004% 2020 all cause mortality was ~697,000 UK* population (inc Scotland )67,886,004 1.026% ? From the ONS data for Eng and Wales 614,114 UK population 67886004 0.904% dataset https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales The population for UK is not the same as England and Wales so requires adjustment ! If you go back to 1968-9 (Hong Kong flu) and factor in the population and we see an overall fall in mortality towards the present. A trend that has continued despite the covid blip of march from the care home fiasco/lockdown Either way - nothing out of the ordinary going on here. These officious bastards are pissing on us and telling us its raining Ditch the mask and purchase some anti bullshit headphones and spectacles Edited January 12 by zarkov 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basket Case 2,818 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said: I haven't seen my niece for over a year. I saw my brother last summer. When the news hit last spring it scared the crap out of me. I thought the mainland must be apocalyptic. I quickly realised things probably were not as bad as they were being portrayed. A bit like when people around the world people thought if you visited Northern Ireland pre good Friday agreement, that you would get shot or bombed. I'm not making light of the troubles, but I certainly wasn't living in a warzone. Some parts of Belfast or Derry/Londonderry got it tough though. So you decided to play it safe and stayed put in Northern Ireland ? You don't think that it's safe to travel especially with the different lockdown zones and travelling restrictions changing from day to day and week to week..? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimonTV 866 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 The statistics this year seemed to have changed many months later a number of times. I know they always evolving as they receive more data but it will be interesting to see in the next following years whether we see this level of retrospective data changes in the total death statistics. Obviously a very difficult thing to quantify. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darryl Worthington 16 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Basket Case said: So you decided to play it safe and stayed put in Northern Ireland ? You don't think that it's safe to travel especially with the different lockdown zones and travelling restrictions changing from day to day and week to week..? I don't like flying and i got a really nasty flu on my last holiday, however we probably would have went on holiday last year if things had been normal. It was just too big a risk to lose the money or ending up on lockdown in another country. I've got 5 dogs now so won't be going on holiday for quite some time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basket Case 2,818 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said: I don't like flying and i got a really nasty flu on my last holiday, however we probably would have went on holiday last year if things had been normal. It was just too big a risk to lose the money or ending up on lockdown in another country. I've got 5 dogs now so won't be going on holiday for quite some time Is that a long way of saying that you're still in Ireland ? And haven't left for a while..? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skitzorat 152 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, oddsnsods said: I had "long Govid" for months. I posted this earlier but I will encourage you to share it on social media...... "consider describing your long-term symptoms, too ― not just those you had at the height of your illness. This can be especially validating for long-term COVID-19 survivors, whose symptoms are generally less discussed in media coverage, as well as useful for researchers and doctors, who are still trying to figure the virus out." Also FYI, aparently.. "“It feels really good to know that you were able to help so many.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basket Case 2,818 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, SimonTV said: The statistics this year seemed to have changed many months later a number of times. I know they always evolving as they receive more data but it will be interesting to see in the next following years whether we see this level of retrospective data changes in the total death statistics. Obviously a very difficult thing to quantify. Suicide figures take many many months to get published as each case must have an inquiry before it can be officially designated as such.. Which adds to the difficulty in keeping up with the numbers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarkov 613 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 7 minutes ago, SimonTV said: The statistics this year seemed to have changed many months later a number of times. I know they always evolving as they receive more data but it will be interesting to see in the next following years whether we see this level of retrospective data changes in the total death statistics. Obviously a very difficult thing to quantify. Statist tricks My head is in the oven and my feet are in a bowl of iced water but on average I'm fine :) 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wingwang 389 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 15 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said: I haven't seen my niece for over a year. I saw my brother last summer. When the news hit last spring it scared the crap out of me. I thought the mainland must be apocalyptic. I quickly realised things probably were not as bad as they were being portrayed. A bit like when people around the world people thought if you visited Northern Ireland pre good Friday agreement, that you would get shot or bombed. I'm not making light of the troubles, but I certainly wasn't living in a warzone. Some parts of Belfast or Derry/Londonderry got it tough though. During the period when restaurants were allowed to open, June or July(?), I went to a cafe and there was a newspaper from March that had stayed in the cafe. The only time I read newspapers is when I'm in a cafe on my own! Anyway, the propaganda in that newspaper was ridiculous... Pictures of people keeling over and dying in the streets of Wuhan. Remember that? Did it transpire here? No! The scene was set, the fear instilled. That's what the powers that be are still playing with, the fictional propaganda. Yes, I too sat on the fence for a bit at the start but then the critical thinking part of me kicked in! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daz181 13 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2021/01/12/exclusive-vaccine-passports-trialled-thousands-britons/ Last month, Britain’s vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi announced that the government had no plans to introduce immunity passports en mass, or place restrictions on those who do not take the jab. lying bastards Passports on the way.. Edited January 12 by Daz181 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alexa 665 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 8 hours ago, Darryl Worthington said: They claimed that covid19 is 3 times deadly than flu. I just don't understand why the government would want to shut down businesses etc unless there is indeed a serious risk to people. Surely they would want to collect taxes rather than put the country into serious debt. I know governments are not always just but surely they will at least want to keep lining their own pockets with tax from businesses and workers. I just don't see the point in making this all up. There's so much disinformation around these days. It's all part of this big game they are playing, they'll get their money back in the end by reducing us to zombie like slave workers for them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Illmatic 628 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Daz181 said: https://www.infowars.com/posts/confirmed-britain-will-issue-vaccine-passports/ passports on the way That's giving me a 404. Infowars nuked as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orange Alert 653 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Lidls are now refusing cash on their self service tills. The company that always used to be aimed for low income has seized the moment to introduce this, I explained to the manager some people cant get bank accounts & rely on cash & this is blatant discrimination, as now they are forcing people to wait in their long queues & told her I would not be shopping there again & which she replied thats fine. Shop down at Abdul's corner shop where cash is king, helping him to make a million. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Storm 69 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 "Organising parties is dangerous, selfish and totally irresponsible..." says the chairman of the National Police Chiefs' Council. Have I entered the Twilight Zone? I can't believe this is real. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basket Case 2,818 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Illmatic said: Infowars nuked as well? Hopefully.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avoiceinthecrowd 327 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, wingwang said: Yes, I too sat on the fence for a bit at the start but then the critical thinking part of me kicked in! I like the way Sherlock Holmes put it: 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morpheus 693 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 36 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Thinking about it, I think that was around the last I had anything like that.. 1999 / 2000 ish.. Must be a thing because so did i. I thought I'd been food poisoned because I was sick as a dog. Rang environmental health during my bout of death to report my misfortune: EH - what appears to be the issue sir? Me - I think I've been food poisoned. EH - what did you eat and when did you eat it? Me - Chinese takeaway and last night EH - sorry sir, we're unable to help you, it takes 24-48hrs for food poisoning. Me - But..... Dial tone........ True story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bombadil 229 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just rang Devon and Cornwall police 101. General enquiry about mask exemptions in shops etc. Can’t blame the lady I spoke to because she is just repeating what she is told to say if she wants to keep her job. Said that I was exempt but concerned about confrontation because of media, videos of police etc. She told me to get exemption certificate from doctor. I politely explained that they don’t exist. Explained to her the advice on the www.gov.U.K. Site. about not having to give an exemption etc. Explained to her that anyone can download or buy a lanyard/ certificate. She told me that police are following same guidelines as public on this. Didn’t go into how the police are blatantly flaunting the guidance and acting like Stazi. Im not concerned by the way just wanted to here the polices response. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
screamingeagle 877 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 14 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said: Organising parties is dangerous, selfish and totally irresponsible..." says the chairman of the National Police Chiefs' Council. first posted by @Mitochondrial Eve 6 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mitochondrial Eve 1,957 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 7 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Wow.. You going to post this on the Mega Thread ? Reposting this image from another thread. This graph shows a correlation between the spread of Covid-19 and flu vaccination rates. It originates from the site below and was posted on 3rd August 2020 citing two studies which "have found an association between flu vaccines and susceptibility to other non-influenza respiratory diseases, including other coronaviruses". https://www.vaccineevidence.com/ 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skitzorat 152 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Also of course the BBC would never take into account the thousands of old people they shipped off too the homes, which of course boosted the numbers, not just in UK but most countries. Dont kill Grannie, leave her to rot instead. Im pretty emotionally dead but what's happening to our elderly - especially the ones living (if you can call it that) absolutely breaks my heart. And the children; the psychological torture is so callous. What more evidence or proof does one need to not see that clearly the world is run by psychopaths'?! If humanity collectively actually wins this war and we get through to some fairyland at the end of a bright tunnel of futures - this generation is going to be so mentally screwed, not to mention biologically stuffed because they're all now petrified of germs and will not have built any immune system whatsoever (regardless of all the shots they manage to give them). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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