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8 minutes ago, Concerned Citizen said:

 

Yes, I understand that it states uk. The data I have is from ONS (Office for National Statistics). I am just trying to establish that the reason there is a difference in the data is that the definition of UK is not the same.

Do you think that is why there is that difference?

Thanks for response.

 

Ah... I get what you're saying. 

I'm really not sure. 

I'll have a look.. 

BC 

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38 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

I've been into alternative theories for years. I used to subscribe to Fortean times for many years. The whole covid thing has me concerned obviously. When I first heard David Icke claiming covid19 was a hoax I was very interested. The man talks alot of sense but there was always the thought in my head, 'what if in this instance, he's wrong?'  Maybe that's caused by media conditioning you could argue. Once David was taken off YouTube I decided to try to find out why he is so adamant that covid is a hoax. I don't believe everything David says. I don't believe there is any malice in the man either. But it scares me to think people could be put at risk through disinformation. I know you could argue that's what the dark ones want. My wife works for the NHS and she got her vaccine 2 weeks ago. Luckily there's been no side effects. I'm not here to ridicule anyone, just looking for info from real people.  It is distressing to hear of people standing outside a London hospital shouting covid is a hoax when the doctors and nurses are dealing with the effects of covid19. However it is their right for freedom of speech. It's just all so confusing, again you'll probably argue that's what the overlords want. I hope it is hoax and we can get back to some kind of normal soon, but I think this is going to be the way things are for years to come. In my head it's mother nature's way of trying to control human population after all the destruction we've brought on this planet. Only my opinion of course. Have a nice day 👍

 

Oh dear, how awful, which hospital is that? Is it like a war zone in there? 

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40 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

In my head it's mother nature's way of trying to control human population after all the destruction we've brought on this planet

 

Ah...

BOOOMMM....!!!! 

There it is. 

 

I'm not a Doctor but I would hazard a guess that you have a severe case of imatrollwithmyheadupmyarseitis.. 

 

Nothing can be done for you... We'll add you to the 2021 figures 😉 

 

BC :0)  xx

 

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4 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

So you know full well that the hospitals are as good as empty.. 

 

Doctors Surgeries - Empty.

Hospital Clinics - empty. 

Hospital Pharmacies - empty. 

Phlebotomy dpts - empty. 

X-ray / scan depts - empty.

Corridors - empty. 

 

There's fuck all going on, and if your wife really works for the NHS you know this. 

 

The  UK has had it's health service stopped. 

 

How about YOU tell US what is going on in the hospitals ? 

 

You know... a bit of insight from the inside ? 

 

I will indeed share any info I can with anyone interested. This is a small hospital in Northern Ireland. Last Friday there was 28 cases of people in the hospital due to covid. Yesterday there was 41. So it will be interesting later in week to see if they are increasing at a rate of roughly 4 per day therefore continuing the current trajectory. There have been deaths but I know the problem is differentiating between people dying of covid or people dying with covid. Last winter my wife thinks there would not have been more than 10 in that hospital at once with seasonal flu. So there seems to be something affecting more people. It could be argued when people are under stress that their immune systems could be compromised and that could account for the 30 more patients I guess. I'll keeps yous updated if yous are interested 👍

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2 hours ago, Darryl Worthington said:

Fair enough. I thought getting off fossil fuels was a good thing for the environment and general air quality. Perhaps this is all a simulation but the thing is we might as well make the most of it. I guess it's the red pill, blue pill choice. How far down does the rabbit hole go? I got really into this a few years ago but the paranoia nearly did my head in. Yeah we are being lied to but if everything is a lie , who do we believe. Please don't answer with the Bible 😂

Exactly so this is an easy way to stop it right? Why not stop the carbon footprint all together and lock people in their homes? 

 

You don’t need anyone to believe in. Nobody can possibly say what they have in store for us, but it is bad. The richest don’t care about the people, and they have so much money they can control the entire planet. This is a psy-op basically it is my opinion many on here are right, this is a psychological experiment to prove that they can control every single part of the general publics lives with lies.. 

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2 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

This is a small hospital in Northern Ireland.

 

You don't live in England then ? 

 

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9 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

Ah...

BOOOMMM....!!!! 

There it is. 

 

I'm not a Doctor but I would hazard a guess that you have a severe case of imatrollwithmyheadupmyarseitis.. 

 

Nothing can be done for you... We'll add you to the 2021 figures 😉 

 

BC :0)  xx

 

😂 Surely if we can't trust the politicians, then maybe voting for the protection of planet earth has to be a good thing? That's what I've been doing for years. Don't now tell me green peace are evil too!!!

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4 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

I will indeed share any info I can with anyone interested. This is a small hospital in Northern Ireland. Last Friday there was 28 cases of people in the hospital due to covid. Yesterday there was 41. So it will be interesting later in week to see if they are increasing at a rate of roughly 4 per day therefore continuing the current trajectory. There have been deaths but I know the problem is differentiating between people dying of covid or people dying with covid. Last winter my wife thinks there would not have been more than 10 in that hospital at once with seasonal flu. So there seems to be something affecting more people. It could be argued when people are under stress that their immune systems could be compromised and that could account for the 30 more patients I guess. I'll keeps yous updated if yous are interested 👍

 

How many of those people in the hospital have had a vaccine recently? That would be interesting to know and also what the average age was. 

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2 hours ago, Mr H said:

I think the word "pandemic" was declared as moribund circa 2009 when the WHO decided to politicize the word after the H1N1 jiggery pokery.....

Yes - back when they actually got caught red handed FAKING A PANDEMIC! with their greedy hands in the back pockets of big pharma. Funny how the media never bought that up this time - they were all over it back then.

 

Very convenient of them to change their definition of what constitutes being able to declare a pandemic too: removal of the whole "[resulting in]... enormous numbers of deaths and illness." part.  Very convenient indeed. Its almost as if the World Health Organisation was just shuffling some chess pieces for their Masters

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13 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Yes - back when they actually got caught red handed FAKING A PANDEMIC! with their greedy hands in the back pockets of big pharma. Funny how the media never bought that up this time - they were all over it back then.

 

Very convenient of them to change their definition of what constitutes being able to declare a pandemic too: removal of the whole "[resulting in]... enormous numbers of deaths and illness." part.  Very convenient indeed. Its almost as if the World Health Organisation was just shuffling some chess pieces for their Masters

 

They declared 2009 a pandemic and spent half a billion £ on Tamiflu which they let expire. Years later it was determined the Tamiflu never even work and had bad side effects and the investors were all politicians in the US and it was a huge scam. It is not the first time they have tried this fraud, as you likely are already aware.

 

https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/tamiflu-fraud-bilked-$1.5-billion-from-government-alleges-whistleblower-2020-01-13

 

https://news.yahoo.com/tamiflu-fraud-bilked-1-5-163100939.html

 

https://prohealthbase.com/2020/01/29/roche-flu-medication-fraud-stole-billions/

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/swine-flu/10756200/Tamiflu-drugs-given-for-swine-flu-were-waste-of-500m.html

 

The side effects were bad, Epilepsy, seizures, Narcolepsy and suicidal thoughts + psychotic episodes. Just google it and you will see. Even with all the cover up can still find people talking about developing life long problems from Tamiflu. 

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23 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

No. I've a brother in Brighton and an niece in London though. At least now you can understand my backwardness 😜

 

Considering the 'pandemic' and the lockdowns and travel restrictions, when did you last get to see your family in Brighton and London ? 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr H said:

Interesting claim in the beeb today Lockdown rule breaking debated as 2020 deaths revealed - BBC News

 

Summary

  1. Last year saw the largest increase in UK deaths in a single year since 1940, according to provisional ONS figures
  2. In 2020, nearly 697,000 deaths were registered, compared with an average of nearly 606,000 each year between 2015 and 2019

 

According to ONS up to December 11th. 578,691 deaths England & Wales. so 20 days BBC claim over 100k deaths?

You could add say 60,000 for Scotland.

 

 

In England, the number of deaths up to 11 December 2020 was 543,335, which is 65,251 (13.6%) more than the five-year average.  In Wales, the number of deaths up to 11 December 2020 was 35,356, which is 3,261 (10.2%) more than the five-year average

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending11december2020

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I just want to emphasise something. 

 

BBC - Worse increase in overall deaths since 1940 !!!! 

 

Worse increase since the end of the WAR!!!! 

 

Going on official numbers. 

 

The increase in overall deaths from the year 2018 to the year 2020 is 0.117%

 

0.117 %   increase. 

 

The BBC sure do know how to piss me right off 😡 

Fear mongering Cuntz.. 

 

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33 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

How many of those people in the hospital have had a vaccine recently? That would be interesting to know and also what the average age was. 

 

How many tested positive once already admitted is all I want or need to know & as proven several times recently on this thread, its 75% of "cases."

 

 

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2 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

They declared 2009 a pandemic and spent half a billion £ on Tamiflu which they let expire. Years later it was determined the Tamiflu never even work and had bad side effects and the investors were all politicians in the US and it was a huge scam. It is not the first time they have tried this fraud, as you likely are already aware.

 

https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/tamiflu-fraud-bilked-$1.5-billion-from-government-alleges-whistleblower-2020-01-13

 

https://news.yahoo.com/tamiflu-fraud-bilked-1-5-163100939.html

 

https://prohealthbase.com/2020/01/29/roche-flu-medication-fraud-stole-billions/

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/swine-flu/10756200/Tamiflu-drugs-given-for-swine-flu-were-waste-of-500m.html

I believe the bwitch that headed the WHO back then was also taken to court to face full on corruption charges.

 

The colossal waste of tax payers dollar all around the world for the Tamifu, that scandal pales in comparison to those evil bastards GlaxoSmithKline rolling out a new vaccine, Pandemrix which was specifically produced for pandemic 2009 H1N1 influenza which caused fuckng narcolepsy in 1000s of innocent European children.

 

Whoopsie. How sad, nevermind. Time after time. How many African countries have kicked the WHO/Gates/Big Phama out? How much thousands of unknown Indian tribal childrens lives ruined?  They were all peanuts to whats coming.

 

It infuriates me  how people can be so arrogant and condescending with their stupid short memories and demonise and castrate anyone wanting to have a rational discussion regarding vaccine safety - FILTHY ANTI_VAXXER, FAILING TO GRASP BASIC SCIENCE - THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED. 

 

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1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

I just want to emphasise something. 

 

BBC - Worse increase in overall deaths since 1940 !!!! 

 

Worse increase since the end of the WAR!!!! 

 

Going on official numbers. 

 

The increase in overall deaths from the year 2018 to the year 2020 is 0.117%

 

0.117 %   increase. 

 

The BBC sure do know how to piss me right off 😡 

Fear mongering Cuntz.. 

 

 

1999 was a very bad year for flu. Last time I caught it & I had "long Govid" for months.

That was some strange SingaporeWuhanBurmese cross hybrid straight out of Porta Down.🤢

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10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

I just want to emphasise something. 

 

BBC - Worse increase in overall deaths since 1940 !!!! 

 

Worse increase since the end of the WAR!!!! 

 

Going on official numbers. 

 

The increase in overall deaths from the year 2018 to the year 2020 is 0.117%

 

0.117 %   increase. 

 

The BBC sure do know how to piss me right off 😡 

Fear mongering Cuntz.. 

 

 

There was a few years in the 90s that had a higher annual total death rate. 

 

Maybe they are doing as a percentage of the population? 

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2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

1999 was a very bad year for flu. Last time I caught it & I had "long Govid" for months.

That was some strange SingaporeWuhanBurmese cross hybrid straight out of Porta Down.🤢

 

Thinking about it, I think that was around the last I had anything like that.. 

1999 / 2000 ish.. 

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