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3 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

can we see actual bed numbers ? i think the % is hiding the fact that Wancock et. al have removed thousands of beds for social distancing and the closure of london nightingale (reopened with 300 beds)

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OLDER  PEOPLE  AT  RISK

Is it true that Covid targets older people?
Or is it just that every day more old people die than young people, in general?
John Hopkins institute thinks so, and this is another Covid myth that they correct here:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

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4 minutes ago, Oakwise said:

'What are the ambitions of the current crop of power-lovers?' 

to implement the vaccine culture

 

if the UK had continued with the old way of herd immunity, protect the vulnerable and everyone gets on with it.... the UK would have achieved herd immunity in 2020 and been announced by the medical system as such

 

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Isolated, alone with a mask on

 

Left alone to suffer illness and death without human touch and physical interaction kills. Its always killed. And these sick cants know it. The humans immune system evolved through being physically close to each other and even animals. The World Death Organisation indeed.

 

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5 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

can we see actual bed numbers ? i think the % is hiding the fact that Wancock et. al have removed thousands of beds for social distancing and the closure of london nightingale (reopened with 300 beds)

 

BB admit it, but of course put their spin on it.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55536762

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6 hours ago, skitzorat said:

My friend just posted this to me without comment. Can someone help me rephrase the caption with a response thats far more witty for me to reply?

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probably a response to this meme which you can find in this thread

 

 

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

BB admit it, but of course put their spin on it.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55536762

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The changes this year include:

  • Less space for beds due to the need for larger gaps between them
  • The division of wards into three zones: those for people with coronavirus, those awaiting test results and those who have tested negative
  • Increased infection control - including cleaning and putting on personal protective equipment (PPE) - which takes up staff time
  • Increased critical care beds and patients, which require more intensive staffing

Combined, these factors mean that hospitals have less capacity than usual, meaning fewer beds are available for fewer patients.

In total, NHS hospitals in England have about 7,000 fewer available beds than usual.

 

 

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1 hour ago, skitzorat said:

 

(already in the aussie lexicon) 

  • No jab, no pay
  • No jab, no play

 

 

 

Btw these campaigns target welfare recipients who depend on government payments, obviously the most vulnerable in society, which is again who they will target first after the old people.

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7 minutes ago, zArk said:

to implement the vaccine culture

 

if the UK had continued with the old way of herd immunity, protect the vulnerable and everyone gets on with it.... the UK would have achieved herd immunity in 2020 and been announced by the medical system as such

 

 

And I assume that the 'vaccine culture' is one component of a new socio-economic paradigm that's being engineered into existence? 

 

Does the formation of a new vaccine culture give the elite ideologues new capabilities? If so, what are they? 

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EMPTY  NIGHTINGALES ...  LOTSA  STAFF

Bed occupancy in the NHS is down 5% across the board, every week.
And contracted nurses (agency staff) have been sent home.

So the question is .. . couldn't those nurses work at the Nightingales?
Weren't we told that the Nightingales are empty because of lack of staff?

Or are there simply not enough patients.
In the same way that there are no hearses parading down the street?

Do you have the smell of something not quite right about this picture?

Bed Occupancy Graph and Source:

https://ibb.co/VSqqhm1

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https://odysee.com/@TheUnhivedMind:0/UK-Column-News---11th-January-2021-xqGF-IjbbGo:5?t=1145

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11 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

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He sounds like he’s from the school of Killary, didn’t she want to be able to take people out using drones! I think she was talking about Assange when she made that comment.

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2 hours ago, Bullion said:

Btw these campaigns target welfare recipients who depend on government payments, obviously the most vulnerable in society, which is again who they will target first after the old people.

Its disgusting

 

I dont have kids but worked in financial services. I believe no jab no pay is even more insidious than just reducing welfare recipients entitlements, it reduces everyone's family-tax-concessions as part of the end of financial year return, to the tune of thousands of dollars.

No jab, no play I think bars children from childcare, preschool and I think even primary school attendances can be affected.

 

The govt even deviantly updated their definition of child from 18 to 20 meaning if your 19 year old teenager lives at home with you, which entitles you to claim those family tax deductions, if they havent kept their vax schedule (constantly updated with tetanus boosters etc) you will STILL be disqualified. Incredible. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, buddsy said:

Hi 

 

I saw a medical doctor claiming as the "vaccine" doesn't stop infection spreading but only reduces the symptoms by the medical definition this is not a vaccine but a medical treatment.

 

Does anyone know if this is a true thing on both counts?

 

Is it not a vaccine?

 

Does it stop infection spreading?

 

buddsy

 

 

Hi Buddsy. Your doctor is correct. It doesnt stop infection or prevent transmission just lessens your symptoms if you become unwell. I am a pharmacist. Watch this short documentary to become up to speed.

 

 

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54 minutes ago, truth_seeker90 said:

Fair comment and there is def some sharlatans within the conspiracy theorists, but I will just say this is the david icke forum, and david icke has made a good case for 5g causing health problems.

Fair enough. I do admire David Icke. It took alot of courage for David to first talk about what he believed in. I felt so sorry for him when he first appeared on the Wogan show. Don't get me wrong, I would not want a 5G mast beside my home but I don't think it would cause covid symptoms. Maybe it could increase certain cancers though. 

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3 hours ago, buddsy said:

Hi 

 

I saw a medical doctor claiming as the "vaccine" doesn't stop infection spreading but only reduces the symptoms by the medical definition this is not a vaccine but a medical treatment.

 

Does anyone know if this is a true thing on both counts?

 

Is it not a vaccine?

 

Does it stop infection spreading?

 

buddsy

 

 

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/covid-19-vaccine-trials-cannot-tell-us-if-they-will-save-lives/

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53 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

I was going to say, the only agenda we have here is finding out the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. No exclusivity for that as we all share our information, daily. 

I've been a truth seeker since I was asking the Sunday school teacher questions they couldn't answer back in the 1980s. I've always asked questions. That's why I'm here. Excuse my ignorance as I'm no expert, but what benefit would hoaxing a global pandemic have for any government other than losing them loads on taxes?

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31 minutes ago, Oakwise said:

And I assume that the 'vaccine culture' is one component of a new socio-economic paradigm that's being engineered into existence? 

yup but its the lynch pin ....

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15 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

I've been a truth seeker since I was asking the Sunday school teacher questions they couldn't answer back in the 1980s. I've always asked questions. That's why I'm here. Excuse my ignorance as I'm no expert, but what benefit would hoaxing a global pandemic have for any government other than losing them loads on taxes?

Because it's about control and stripping us of everything. Our money, our family, our religion, our homes, our way of life, full stop.

 

Thereafter, its about injecting us with microchips to hook us up to the clowd and then they can not only track our every move, they can even stop us using their new digital currency. In addition,these vaccines are DNA changing, they're not vaccines because they don't inject us with the virus like a standard vaccine would, they change our DNA structure and therefore, due to them owning said operating system, I mean vaccine, they then own you!

 

I suggest you read up on the Great Reset and that will give you a general idea of what is to come. 

 

In the words of Klaus Scwhab:

 

"By 2030 you will own nothing and be happy about it!"

 

Not on my watch Klaus and I don't believe anyone has agreed to sign up for this. 👍

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1 hour ago, Oakwise said:

 

That's because you fail to understand how the world really works. You're like the ancients who took things at face value and logically concluded that the sun goes round the earth because that's how it appears. We say to you, that's an illusion and it is in fact the opposite. You then laugh and say how can that be. We say it's because the earth is spinning on its axis as it revolves around the sun and so creates the illusion of the sun going round the earth. You say, don't be lunatic, how would things stay on the planet if we're spinning around? We reply, there's a hidden force called gravity. 

 

It's at this point you dismiss us as crazy gravity theorists. 

 

In that same way, you watch the news and conclude that it's all moving east to west around the earth and therefore it all works such and such. When in reality there are hidden factors that you're unaware of and not taking into account. 

 

As for motive, you're dealing with high society ideologues who already know fabulous wealth. It's not about wealth. It's about the execution of a strategy that aims to revolutionize global civilisation according to their own ideologies. This is not unusual since the 20th c. is full of elite ideologues with grand visions for how society should be. The pattern is continuing into the 21st c. Globalisation of economics also means the globalisation of power. The trend for this century is the attempted unification of world governance in a new economic paradigm (see The Great Reset, Fourth Industrial Revolution). 

 

The problem is that it needs to evolve into being as per the Fabian strategy i.e. gradually through a seemingly natural dialectic process. Unfortunately, however, this can be too slow, so at certain points you would need catalysts to act as accelerants. So this current event has the strategic purpose of accelerating social change. Indeed, you can't 'build back better' without a certain amount of destructivity. 

 

This is just a short summary. It's a complex thesis that would take many pages to elucidate. 

 

I suggest you do your own study into the evolution and true nature of civilisation. Actually study the behaviours of those sorts of people who love power. You'll find that conspiratorial tactics are part of how they behave. 

 

All the best.  

Thanks for the info. We will probably never know the ultimate truth and I know things are rarely as they seem. Is it within the realm of possibility that this could be a real pandemic ? Thanks again I appreciate the time you took. 👍

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5 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

Thanks for the info. We will probably never know the ultimate truth and I know things are rarely as they seem. Is it within the realm of possibility that this could be a real pandemic ? Thanks again I appreciate the time you took. 👍

YAWN

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2 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Because it's about control and stripping us of everything. Our money, our family, our religion, our homes, our way of life, full stop.

 

Thereafter, its about injecting is with microchips to hook us up to the clowd and then they can not only track our every move, they can even stop us using their new digital currency. 

 

I suggest you read up on the Great Reset and that will give you a general idea of what is to come. 

 

In the words of Klaus Scwhab:

 

"By 2030 you will own nothing and be happy about it!"

 

Not on my watch Klaus and I don't believe anyone has agreed to sign up for this. 👍

Thanks Morpheus. We already are using so much digital currency and they can already track us on our mobile phones. I've heard about the microchips being injected before but I find it hard to believe. Maybe it's my defense mechanism 😱😂 . Thanks again

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