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3 minutes ago, Frankieboy said:

Because restaurants are closed take away should refuse to serve police officers on duty or just ignore them! Lets see what the plod do then for there lunch break!

The absence of a sausage roll and iced donut would be enough to turn them against their masters.

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9 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

 

Just read this article myself... heartening to know that there's still a few  decent coppers out there, but this piece perfectly highlights what has really happened to our police force in recent years... ruined by Common Purpose infiltration.

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1 minute ago, Darryl Worthington said:

It's good to be skeptical, but how can we research anything and trust the info being given to us. Everyone has their own agenda including the conspiracy theorists. Remember the 5G nonsense? We have to question the conspiracy theorists as well as the media. No one has exclusivity on the truth.

 

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5 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

It's good to be skeptical, but how can we research anything and trust the info being given to us. Everyone has their own agenda including the conspiracy theorists. Remember the 5G nonsense? We have to question the conspiracy theorists as well as the media. No one has exclusivity on the truth.

Fair comment and there is def some sharlatans within the conspiracy theorists, but I will just say this is the david icke forum, and david icke has made a good case for 5g causing health problems.

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8 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

It's good to be skeptical, but how can we research anything and trust the info being given to us. Everyone has their own agenda including the conspiracy theorists. Remember the 5G nonsense? We have to question the conspiracy theorists as well as the media. No one has exclusivity on the truth.

Do you include yourself when saying everybody has their own agenda - or are you exempt?

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3 minutes ago, Saved said:

Do you include yourself when saying everybody has their own agenda - or are you exempt?

I was going to say, the only agenda we have here is finding out the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. No exclusivity for that as we all share our information, daily. 

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15 minutes ago, Darryl Worthington said:

It's good to be skeptical, but how can we research anything and trust the info being given to us. Everyone has their own agenda including the conspiracy theorists. Remember the 5G nonsense? We have to question the conspiracy theorists as well as the media. No one has exclusivity on the truth.

 

That's based on an over-generalisation of 'conspiracy theorist' which itself is a poorly defined term. I do, however, agree with you about putting all things up for examination. But don't confuse all conspiracy theories with direct allegations of covert collusion, allegations that are supported by a mountain of evidence. 

 

Sadly, conspiracy (i.e. covert planning) is the norm throughout the history of civilisation. It's a logical part of statecraft i.e. for their power, wealth and privilege, rulers depend on their subjects staying within the parameters of the social structure. This is a problem that is solved by planning. Naturally, this is done behind closed doors by the ruling class. 

 

Plato, the ancient Greek philosopher, observed this behavioural truth:

 

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Well then, since the sages tell me that “appearance has more force than reality” and determines our happiness, I had better devote myself entirely to appearances; I must put up a facade that gives the illusory appearance of virtue, but I must always have at my back the “cunning, wily fox” of which Archilochus so shrewdly speaks. You may object that it is not easy to be wicked and never be found out; I reply, that nothing worthwhile is easy, and that all we have been told points to this as the road to happiness. To helps us avoid being found we shall form clubs and secret societies, and there are always those who will teach us the art of persuasion, political or forensic; and so we shall get our way by persuasion or force and avoid the penalty for doing our neighbour down. – The Republic , Plato. Adeimantus making a case for the unjust life (365c)

 

So it's not a question of, 'is there a conspiracy?', it's a question of 'What are the ambitions of the current crop of power-lovers?' 

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2 hours ago, buddsy said:

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I saw a medical doctor claiming as the "vaccine" doesn't stop infection spreading but only reduces the symptoms by the medical definition this is not a vaccine but a medical treatment.

 

Does anyone know if this is a true thing on both counts?

 

Is it not a vaccine?

 

Does it stop infection spreading?

 

buddsy

its a paradox for the NWO as they state that asymptomatic 'carriers' are superspreaders

therefore the vaccine MUST, for their paradigm to continue , allow for contagion to continue

 

in the real though, asymptomatic spread is nonsense , based upon 150 years of science

 

immune people are asymptomatic , immune people can test positive for the illness but it doesnt manifest.

 

asymptomatic means 'no spread' according to the old world

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3 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

can we see actual bed numbers ? i think the % is hiding the fact that Wancock et. al have removed thousands of beds for social distancing and the closure of london nightingale (reopened with 300 beds)

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OLDER  PEOPLE  AT  RISK

Is it true that Covid targets older people?
Or is it just that every day more old people die than young people, in general?
John Hopkins institute thinks so, and this is another Covid myth that they correct here:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

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4 minutes ago, Oakwise said:

'What are the ambitions of the current crop of power-lovers?' 

to implement the vaccine culture

 

if the UK had continued with the old way of herd immunity, protect the vulnerable and everyone gets on with it.... the UK would have achieved herd immunity in 2020 and been announced by the medical system as such

 

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Isolated, alone with a mask on

 

Left alone to suffer illness and death without human touch and physical interaction kills. Its always killed. And these sick cants know it. The humans immune system evolved through being physically close to each other and even animals. The World Death Organisation indeed.

 

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5 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

can we see actual bed numbers ? i think the % is hiding the fact that Wancock et. al have removed thousands of beds for social distancing and the closure of london nightingale (reopened with 300 beds)

 

BB admit it, but of course put their spin on it.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55536762

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6 hours ago, skitzorat said:

My friend just posted this to me without comment. Can someone help me rephrase the caption with a response thats far more witty for me to reply?

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probably a response to this meme which you can find in this thread

 

 

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

BB admit it, but of course put their spin on it.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55536762

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The changes this year include:

  • Less space for beds due to the need for larger gaps between them
  • The division of wards into three zones: those for people with coronavirus, those awaiting test results and those who have tested negative
  • Increased infection control - including cleaning and putting on personal protective equipment (PPE) - which takes up staff time
  • Increased critical care beds and patients, which require more intensive staffing

Combined, these factors mean that hospitals have less capacity than usual, meaning fewer beds are available for fewer patients.

In total, NHS hospitals in England have about 7,000 fewer available beds than usual.

 

 

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1 hour ago, skitzorat said:

 

(already in the aussie lexicon) 

  • No jab, no pay
  • No jab, no play

 

 

 

Btw these campaigns target welfare recipients who depend on government payments, obviously the most vulnerable in society, which is again who they will target first after the old people.

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7 minutes ago, zArk said:

to implement the vaccine culture

 

if the UK had continued with the old way of herd immunity, protect the vulnerable and everyone gets on with it.... the UK would have achieved herd immunity in 2020 and been announced by the medical system as such

 

 

And I assume that the 'vaccine culture' is one component of a new socio-economic paradigm that's being engineered into existence? 

 

Does the formation of a new vaccine culture give the elite ideologues new capabilities? If so, what are they? 

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EMPTY  NIGHTINGALES ...  LOTSA  STAFF

Bed occupancy in the NHS is down 5% across the board, every week.
And contracted nurses (agency staff) have been sent home.

So the question is .. . couldn't those nurses work at the Nightingales?
Weren't we told that the Nightingales are empty because of lack of staff?

Or are there simply not enough patients.
In the same way that there are no hearses parading down the street?

Do you have the smell of something not quite right about this picture?

Bed Occupancy Graph and Source:

https://ibb.co/VSqqhm1

Source:

https://odysee.com/@TheUnhivedMind:0/UK-Column-News---11th-January-2021-xqGF-IjbbGo:5?t=1145

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2 hours ago, Bullion said:

Btw these campaigns target welfare recipients who depend on government payments, obviously the most vulnerable in society, which is again who they will target first after the old people.

Its disgusting

 

I dont have kids but worked in financial services. I believe no jab no pay is even more insidious than just reducing welfare recipients entitlements, it reduces everyone's family-tax-concessions as part of the end of financial year return, to the tune of thousands of dollars.

No jab, no play I think bars children from childcare, preschool and I think even primary school attendances can be affected.

 

The govt even deviantly updated their definition of child from 18 to 20 meaning if your 19 year old teenager lives at home with you, which entitles you to claim those family tax deductions, if they havent kept their vax schedule (constantly updated with tetanus boosters etc) you will STILL be disqualified. Incredible. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, buddsy said:

Hi 

 

I saw a medical doctor claiming as the "vaccine" doesn't stop infection spreading but only reduces the symptoms by the medical definition this is not a vaccine but a medical treatment.

 

Does anyone know if this is a true thing on both counts?

 

Is it not a vaccine?

 

Does it stop infection spreading?

 

buddsy

 

 

Hi Buddsy. Your doctor is correct. It doesnt stop infection or prevent transmission just lessens your symptoms if you become unwell. I am a pharmacist. Watch this short documentary to become up to speed.

 

 

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