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2 hours ago, 50-shades-of-black said:

 

That's my take on it too.

I keep hearing that violence is what they want, and we only need to not comply.

I think that's disinfo, they are scared of a uprising, and if we behave and wave our

placards, then they have won.

They are pushing social distancing for a reason, same with no grouping.

If people had the balls to really resist, this would be over quickly.

People won't even see whats happening what makes you think there is going to be an uprising?'Disinfo' not really more like a different opinion. But you take to the streets tough guy. 

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All I can say about the protests is... FINALLY!  It's taken people longer here than in other countries. I don't know if there's that cultural thing in the UK of being more reserved or what but at least it's happening now. People don't even need to be fully awakened to realise the lockdown, and the health and financial consequences of it, is total bullshit.

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FDA Halts Bill Gates-Backed COVID-19 Testing Program 

About a month after Bill Gates criticized President Trump's decision to suspend funding to the World Health Organization (WHO), the federal government has just halted a Seattle-based COVID-19 testing program backed by Gates. 

What are the odds, right?

"Please discontinue patient testing and return of diagnostic results to patients until proper authorization is obtained," the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) wrote in a memo, addressed to the Seattle Coronavirus Assessment Network (SCAN), according to The New York Times.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/fda-halts-bill-gates-backed-covid-19-testing-program

 

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5 hours ago, Yasmina said:

Hi guys. 

 

It was me in the article, they arrested me for literally nothing. I went to the park with my mum, and got separated somehow '. 

 

Hope your mum was ok too Yasmina . She must have been worried. That said -she's raised a "good one" with you so I'm hoping she's equally strong. X 

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6 hours ago, Yasmina said:

Hi guys. 

 

It was me in the article, they arrested me for literally nothing. I went to the park with my mum, and got separated somehow as there were a lot of people and police. 

 

Police singled me out, came over and said I have to leave and go home to which I responded why??? I have the right to be in there just like everyone else in the park. The officer didn't like that, said if I didn't leave I would be fined. I started to walk away and still demanding why, and that I can't leave without my mum and need to locate her first, he then said I would be fined and 10 seconds later had cuffs on my wrists. He used excessive force and purposely hurt me. I have all bruises on my arms and was unlawfully arrested. They said I was arrested for 'breaching direction' LOL. They kept me in a cell for almost 8 hours and said I would be interviewed which never happened. They then released me 'under investigation'. ? I have pics of the bruising on my wrists and arms but it won't let me upload them for some reason, gives me an error - 200. Whatever that means. 

 

Anyway, I will be taking this further and making a complaint to the police station due to the bruising they have left me with and unlawful arrest, as well as seeking legal advice in regards to defamation with my picture used on various media websites. 

 

 

 

Absolutely shocking, glad you are both okay. 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-52696833

 

Chinese ambassador to Israel found dead at home

 

 17 May 2020 Middle East

 

Du Wei in Ukraine

 

China’s Ambassador to Israel, Du Wei, has died in his apartment in a Tel Aviv suburb, Israeli police and media say.

Mr Du, 57, was found dead in his bed and the cause of his death has not yet been reported.

He was only appointed ambassador in February having previously served as China's envoy to Ukraine.

The ambassador was married and had a son but his family are not believed to have been in the country. He was living in the Tel Aviv suburb of Herzliya.

An Israeli police spokesman told Reuters news agency: "As part of the regular procedure, police units are at the scene."

Israel's Channel 12 TV, quoting unnamed medical sources, said initial indications were that Mr Du had died in his sleep of natural causes.

In a message published on the embassy's website just after his appointment as ambassador, Mr Du praised the relations between "the second largest economy in the world and Israel the start-up nation" .

On Friday, his embassy made a scathing attack on US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo who had criticised China's handling of the coronavirus pandemic on a visit to Israel.

In a response published in the Jerusalem Post, the embassy condemned Mr Pompeo's "absurd comments" , denying that China had ever covered up the crisis.


Copyright © 2020 BBC. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites.

 

 

...Died in his sleep of natural causes my arse! 

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corona-protocol

 

A couple of tips in fighting COVID-19 and actions which protect you
from getting a COVID-19 infection :

 

1. Protect your home from unwarranted radiation, like 5G in your Internet
   router. “5G Internet has been on your computer routers for about 7
   years”, and is now causing headaches within minutes. A simple remedy :
   place your WiFi capable Internet Router in a Faraday cage and only use
   the wired (cat5 or cat6 UTP cable) connections. One easy way is to
   place the Router inside a metal PC casing of a old unused computer. The
   wiring then goes through the expansion slot openings.

 

2. Get some chloroquine or hydroxy-chloroquine tablets, for 5 cents each.
   The HCQ is probably hardest to get hold of, but Zpak should be no
   problem. For treatment details and dosage consult the writings of the
   Marseilles Virology Doctors :
   Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19.pdf
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view

 

3. Once you rid yourself from the COVID-19 coronavirus, a prophylactic
   medicine or protocol should be followed. For disinfection (killing of
   coronavirus particles) inside your home follow :

 

  https://rmstock.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/coronavirus-cleaning-disinfection.pdf

 

   Disinfection of yourself can be done by going for a swim in a indoor or
   outdoor swimming pool which has chlorine as disinfectant in its
   water. If you have no such capability make sure to have a bottle of
   chlorox thick bleach standby when going for a leak in the bathroom.
   Before peeing spray the chlorine containing thick bleach in your
   toilet, and make sure to pee over the bleach. A white foam will emerge
   which contains chlorine vapor. Inhale this chlorine vapor a couple of
   times, and within 1 to 2 hours all of the coronavirus inside your
   airways will have been killed.
 

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Sensible article in the Sunday Times questioning lockdown and Neil Ferguson

 

The lesson of Covid-19 is brutally simple and applies generally to public regulation. Free people make mistakes and willingly take risks. If we hold politicians responsible for everything that goes wrong, they will take away our liberty so that nothing can go wrong. They will do this not for our protection against risk, but for their own protection against criticism.

The lockdown was originally justified as a temporary measure to spread coronavirus infections over a longer period. This was to allow time for the NHS’s critical care capacity to catch up. Hence the slogan “Protect the NHS”.

It was never much of a rationale. The NHS is there to protect us, not the other way round. How could its unpreparedness possibly justify depriving the entire UK population of its liberty, pushing us into the worst recession since the early 18th century, destroying millions of jobs and hundreds of thousands of businesses, piling up public and private debt on a crippling scale and undermining the education of our children?

Since the prime minister’s broadcast last Sunday, the lockdown has found a new rationale. The government has dropped “Protect the NHS” from its slogan. The reason is plain from the paper it published the following day. The NHS is not at risk.

This is partly because the government has done an outstanding job in increasing intensive care capacity, and partly because the threat to the NHS was always overstated. The critical care capacity of the NHS has nearly doubled since January, even without the 4,000 or more additional beds in seven temporary Nightingale hospitals. Around the top of the spike in infections, on April 10, 41% of NHS general acute beds were empty. Only 51% of acute beds were occupied by a Covid-19 patient. The current figure is 20%. The Nightingale hospitals stand empty. These are government figures.

Today, the lockdown is only about shielding us from the risk of infection. This raises serious questions about our relationship with the state. It is our business, not the state’s, to say what risks we will take with our own health. We are not fools or children needing to be told by ministers what is good for us, and forced by police officers to do it. We should not need to consult ministers, as the first member of the public to phone in to the daily press conference did, about whether she was allowed to hug her grandchildren.

The usual answer is that by going out and about we may infect other people. But that no longer works as an excuse for coercion. Those who do not want to run the risk of being infected can isolate themselves voluntarily. They will be no worse off than they are under the current compulsory regime. The rest of us can then get on with our lives.

The continuance of the lockdown is particularly odd given that in its latest paper the government accepts that, whatever we do, Covid-19 is likely to be with us long term. So unless it plans to keep the lockdown in place for ever, all that it achieves is to put off the moment when we have to face the risk anyway.

The prime minister told the House of Commons on Monday that his new so-called plan was workable because the British would use their common sense. In that case, why not allow them to do so by leaving the decisions to them?

Instead, we are resorting to law, which, because it requires exact definition, will always cover very many things that are perfectly harmless. Thus it was OK to go for a walk in the park but not to sunbathe. It is OK to drive to the Lake District but not to visit your second home. It is OK to meet one person but not two, and OK to do it in the front garden but not in the back. This kind of thing is arbitrary and absurd. It discredits the law as well as those who make it.

So how has the government ended up in this unsustainable position?

The answer is that, having originally embarked on a sensible policy that would have avoided a lockdown, it did a 180-degree turn on the afternoon of March 23, without thinking of the wider implications. It was in a blind panic provoked by Professor Neil Ferguson’s “reasonable worst case” of 510,000 deaths. Quite apart from the fact that a worst case is by definition an unlikely one, few scientists now support this figure. But it has had disastrous consequences. It pushed the government into making a decision that mocks our humanity and treats us all as mere tools of government policy.

The government terrified people into submission by giving the impression that Covid-19 was dangerous for everyone. It is not. It attacks people with serious vulnerabilities. By most estimates, between 0.5% and 0.75% of infected persons die. Of those, 87% are over 65 and at least 90% have multiple causes only one of which is Covid-19, according to the Office for National Statistics. The death rate for those under 50 is tiny. For the overwhelming majority, the symptoms are mild. Yet Matt Hancock solemnly intoned that “if you go out, people will die”, in what was surely the high point of governmental hype.

The prime minister’s broadcast was supposed to be his Churchillian moment. Instead, we beheld a man imprisoned by his own rhetoric and the logic of his past mistakes.

The lockdown is now all about protecting politicians’ backs. They are not wicked men, just timid ones, terrified of being blamed for deaths on their watch. But it is a wicked thing that they are doing.

Lord Sumption is a former Supreme Court judge and last year’s BBC Reith 

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5 minutes ago, rmstock said:

 Disinfection of yourself can be done by going for a swim in a indoor or
   outdoor swimming pool which has chlorine as disinfectant in its
   water.

 

this aint healthy or based in any scientific fact or a bacteria

 

1. if its a bacterial spread i get the wiping down of items like with MRSA but this is 'viral' (for want of a better word)

2. our skin has healthy bacteria which keeps bad bacteria in safe levels, chlorine kills all the bacteria and it absorbed which disrupts the gut function

 

the confusion between bacterial infection and viral was widespread before this shit started , i know people who thought anti-biotics were good when you had flu or a severe cold !!!!

 

ignorance kills and its democide right now

the only quick fire decent health thing said in the last 2 months on the tv and radio was

DO NOT USE IBRUPROFEN

 

 

 

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Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot had the monetize option on 
her youtube video channel removed without any reason or discussion. My 
guess the real reason is that she is pretty well informed, especially 
with the hidden untold nano particle aspects and capabilities  of
SARS-CoV-2 as told in the second video .

 

 

 

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I'm getting sick of seeing those news articles saying "what can we learn from other successful nations"

 

1. who the fuck is we ? definitely not the ones who are aware

2. learn what it's really about you fucktard media morons

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7 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

this aint healthy or based in any scientific fact or a bacteria

 

1. if its a bacterial spread i get the wiping down of items like with MRSA but this is 'viral' (for want of a better word)

2. our skin has healthy bacteria which keeps bad bacteria in safe levels, chlorine kills all the bacteria and it absorbed which disrupts the gut function

 

the confusion between bacterial infection and viral was widespread before this shit started , i know people who thought anti-biotics were good when you had flu or a severe cold !!!!

 

ignorance kills and its democide right now

the only quick fire decent health thing said in the last 2 months on the tv and radio was

DO NOT USE IBRUPROFEN

 

It's not that you swim in a disinfectant bath. It's that you breath in and breath out the chlorine

vapor emerging from the water. Your airways will get disinfected.

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22 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

Thanks Fluke. I wonder if they'll make everybody have the test before returning to work. 

 

And whether they can differentiate between the presence of antibodies signifying you've got it, or previously had it.

Can you refuse it?  I got the flu jab under heavy pressure .. maybe because of the AGE ... I haven't recovered from it yet ?

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I clean my house with water & white vinegar with a couple of drops of tea tree oil. It disinfects and is dirt cheap. I keep diffuser going often with tea tree oil too, as it's natural, so you don't build up any immunity to it, and it is anti viral, anti bacterial, anti fungal & I like the aroma. 

 

I've made some 4 thieves vinegar as well a couple of months back and drink some in water daily. It tastes horrid though. 

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Twitter is run by trolls, which most probably know already. I am new but have noticed always the so called trending is certain posters attacking anti lockdown or anyone who go's against the narrative.

They capitalise on anything they can to try & ridicule or DEHUMANISE. #HydePark

 

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18 hours ago, motleyhoo said:

What they did was like when the fist human being discovered an apple tree. They used flawed logic to say "This is a new fruit growing here, and because we have not seen it before it only exists right here."  That is flawed logic, because the person has no idea if apple trees grow elsewhere in the world.  This is what the WHO did in Wuhan. They took newly invented test kits to test for a disease and when they found it they proclaimed it was new and originated right there. A 12 year old can see the flawed logic in that.

 

I still think that a real virus, which the PTB deliberately unleashed, does exist though. And please listen carefully to what I am saying. I 100% agree with you about the whole thing being massively overhyped. And yes, many flu and pneumonia deaths have been quite wrongly attributed to the Coronavirus. Moreover, if I am right about the virus being real, then I doubt it has even killed a 1,000 people here in the U.K.. I also 100% agree that the virus is being used as a cover for deaths caused by 5g. However, I find it very odd that some of the very same people backing Dr. Kyle-Sydell, who said that he was essentially seeing a new form of pneumonia, are also in the 'virus is completely fake' camp. :classic_unsure:        

 

20 hours ago, awake said:

China Has Jailed Hundreds Of People For Questioning Official COVID-19 Narrative, Report.

 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/china-has-jailed-hundreds-people-questioning-official-covid-19-narrative-report

 

China...  what a shit place to live.

 

It seems that they are hot on the heels of the U.K.. Maybe, they have already asked Mr. Matt Hancock to go and work for them? :classic_rolleyes:

 

21 hours ago, kj35 said:

Nothing on that RT today video justifies the standard using that as a picture for a headline. rent a cunt will be there next to make it look like these peaceful protesters are a vile stain. 

 

They always do it.

 

16 hours ago, JeffLeppard said:

Great to see.. and as a fan of snooker too. :classic_biggrin: Fair play to him! Is this the first time he's spoken in public like this? Big respect points either way, it must take a huge amount of courage when your already in the public eye.

 

Yes, great kudos to Peter Ebdon! And there was me thinking he was a really boring, closeted fukker. :classic_laugh: Whenever someone famous says something off-message on social media, then the MSM always leap in with a list of 'slamming comments', which were 'supposedly' made by other, genuine social media users. 'Look, sheeple, Ebdon has been savaged in the court of public opinion!' Or maybe not, due to them being PTB social media accounts, as the reality surely is. Yawn... :classic_rolleyes:    

 

16 hours ago, motleyhoo said:

How many of you believe the attack on our site was because of our efforts to expose the pandemic fraud?  <raises hand...>

 

I will ask the Israeli mafia, then report back. :classic_smile:

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4 minutes ago, Quixotina said:

Can you refuse it?  I got the flu jab under heavy pressure .. maybe because of the AGE ... I haven't recovered from it yet ?

 

I'm hoping so. I'll be up the creek if they won't allow return to work without it though, as I am the sole wage earner with a mortgage. We're just speculating currently as I don't believe they've stipulated anything in that regard yet. 

 

I'm sorry you're suffering from the flu jab.

 

What symptoms do  you have if you don't mind my asking?

 

I'll confess that to my shame, I also took the flu jab this time, after declining for years. I allowed myself to be persuaded by my GP and my mum & daughter, but I should have known better.

That was last November. My daughter stayed over at Christmas and arrived with a rotten cold which I caught and I felt cruddy for about 4 days from Christmas Eve. Then I recovered, but have still not got rid of a constantly runny nose. In itself, it's not really a problem, but I know that having that symptom non stop for 5 months is not normal. Hence, I don't want to be tested, and added to a list for extra scrutiny and moved up the queue for a blasted vaccine when it's inevitably released. 

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9 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Twitter is run by trolls, which most probably know already. I am new but have noticed always the so called trending is certain posters attacking anti lockdown or anyone who go's against the narrative.

They capitalise on anything they can to try & ridicule or DEHUMANISE. #HydePark

 

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yes mate , im banned but have been spending a lot of time there judging the social engineering there. Its frightening, its like a hive mind. The 77th brigade et all, pump out the narrative like "your killing people" or if they protest refuse them NHS treatment." there's pumped accounts pump the narrative and all the NCPs who need to be nannied by the state agree cause well look how many likes it has and they got rainbows in their avatar!!!! Most dissenting voices now on gab or minds and all trends are controlled. its a swamp in there, truly depressing. Robotic.

 

 

The attack on that mans sign is an excellent example of what I just mentioned. It reads perfectly well to me. Its amazing that your allowed to call people fucking wankers and cunts and that's not viewed as abusive. What a pit of lost souls.

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1 minute ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

I'm hoping so. I'll be up the creek if they won't allow return to work without it though, as I am the sole wage earner with a mortgage. We're just speculating currently as I don't believe they've stipulated anything in that regard yet. 

 

I'm sorry you're suffering from the flu jab.

 

What symptoms do  you have if you don't mind my asking?

 

I'll confess that to my shame, I also took the flu jab this time, after declining for years. I allowed myself to be persuaded by my GP and my mum & daughter, but I should have known better.

That was last November. My daughter stayed over at Christmas and arrived with a rotten cold which I caught and I felt cruddy for about 4 days from Christmas Eve. Then I recovered, but have still not got rid of a constantly runny nose. In itself, it's not really a problem, but I know that having that symptom non stop for 5 months is not normal. Hence, I don't want to be tested, and added to a list for extra scrutiny and moved up the queue for a blasted vaccine when it's inevitably released. 

Yes last November for me too . . From a shifty GP (they get £250 a throw for each jab) I could be your Mum but I was fit.  Then run by nose  breathless etc .. body just collapsed and spine fractured by itself!  

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2 minutes ago, Metaspiral said:

yes mate , im banned but have been spending a lot of time there judging the social engineering there. Its frightening, its like a hive mind. The 77th brigade et all, pump out the narrative like "your killing people" or if they protest refuse them NHS treatment." there's pumped accounts pump the narrative and all the NCPs who need to be nannied by the state agree cause well look how many likes it has and they got rainbows in their avatar!!!! Most dissenting voices now on gab or minds and all trends are controlled. its a swamp in there, truly depressing. Robotic.

How can I join these group of people?

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