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15 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

I found shocking the idea they talked about mix & match the mRNA vaccine with the AstraZenca conventional vaccine.

That alone should scare anyone thinking about taking it.

 

They tried to backpeddle on this, but they clearly stated this.
And anyone thinks this is anyway ethical is loonytunes.

2 totally different, untested apporaches (one experimental)..you have no clue really about the side effects from either.

 

The Astra Zenca would be the one if you had no other choice ide say.

But neither will give you immunity to this BS virus anyway.

And thats what theyve been promising all along..wait for the vaccine.

(including Trump of course)

Theyve had these vaccines ready from the get go..just needed to sell them to the gullibles.

 

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Coronavirus: BMJ urges NYT to correct vaccine 'mixing' article

 

Dr Ramsay added that on the "extremely rare occasions" where the same vaccine is unavailable or it is unknown which jab the patient received, it is "better to give a second dose of another vaccine than not at all".

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55519042

 

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These mofos change like the wind.
 

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Speaking on LBC's Swarbrick on Sunday, Professor of Respiratory Infection at UCL Jeremy Brown explained that scientists are researching whether offering a cocktail of shots would be effective and safe.

 

Prof Brown, who is a member of the government's Joint Committee on Vaccines and Immunisation (JCVI), suggested patients could receive one jab of the Pfizer vaccine and another from AstraZeneca as a matter of pragmatism.

Asked by LBC's Tom Swarbrick whether people could receive two different vaccines to keep them protected against coronavirus, the professor said: "Those trials are being run, of one vaccine being followed by a second.

"They largely depend on the same spike protein, it's just the carrier in the vaccine that's different between them, so, in theory, you could mix between them.

 

"We're not planning to do that at the moment but we'll get the data and see whether it's feasible because, from a pragmatic point of view, it might be necessary."

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/covid-vaccines-could-be-mixed-necessary-jcvi-member-pfizer-astrazeneca/

 

 

They are nothing like each other.

One is not even really a vaccine.🙈

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3 hours ago, Velma said:

Creepy little cunt Chris Whitty threatens us with “emergency patients being turned away from hospitals unless people begin to obey the rules.”

 

Begin? Begin? ☠️

 

We have been OBEYING the rules for a year! Staying home, foregoing leisure, giving up work, wearing masks, missing school, social distancing, the whole fucking nine yards, and he has the audacity to say we need to start to obey.

 

The Chairman of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag) with the most Orwellian name, has the nerve to say “"We can see the end game now.” Yes, so can we.... depopulation and global control.

Chris Whitty should be in the Chamber of Horrors, he is terrifying .

I wonder where he buys his suits and clothes from? , I bet he stinks of mothballs and piss .

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1 hour ago, skitzorat said:

Fk he looks Dark.

 

I saw his darkness, then commander (lol Covid commander) then thought of this great track to cheer me up from Jeroen Weimars' evil looking face. I present to you Dance Commander, by Electric 6 the guys who bought us other great numbers such as Danger Danger High Voltage and take me to the Gay Bar, Gay Bar.

 

 

 

Electric Six are brilliant and this is my favorite video!!!

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4 hours ago, kitkat said:

 

Watched this and then 2.12 to 3.16  watched that guy having a meltdown. Have to say have we not all felt like him? I know I have. The utter frustration in the face of all this insanity needs an outlet somehow. I guess most would believe that it's best he is just addressing a camera rather than taking it out on people.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

someone was explaining to me that the protest groups are fractured and that there are several different protest groups holding their own events

 

This means they are always small scale ones instead of large events like the one in trafalgar square and as a result they don't make such a splash on the public conscience

 

It might help if those factions could put aside their differences and pool their supporters into larger protests again

 

Right, makes a lot of sense, perhaps intentionally fractured from within. I only have experience with Germany where I was living for 5 months and a lot of people have been saying the main one there Querdenken has already been infiltrated and is now effectively controlled opposition.

 

Telegram etc is promising but I'm starting to think tee only way now is guerilla promotion. Get groups together plastering cities with dates of a demonstration, spray paint it onto walls, anything that gets peoples attention. Tech is increasingly not our friend, if we rely on it in the long run it's not going to work out very well. 

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Regarding last Thursday's Clap for Carers/Clap for Heros/Clap For NHS, I asked a neighbour why he did not clap at 8pm, who had clapped the last time, he said everyone is fed up with it all and did not bother. 

 

Also, nice to see here all the people who have had enough with the BS just going out and not wearing masks, including the law enforcement community.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9131071/Priti-Patel-defends-police-strong-enforcement-Covid-rules.html

So much for staying at home! Crowds of people head to beaches and town centres despite Boris Johnson begging families to stay at home as Covid hospital deaths hit 573 – the highest Sunday in seven months

  • Hordes of visitors were spotted having a stroll on Tynemouth Longsands beach in North Tyneside today 
  • Car parks in the area were packed as families descended on the coastal beauty spot for a Sunday walk 
  • And in London masses of people were seen taking to Hampstead high street and queuing at food stalls
  • It comes as Covid hospital deaths hit 573 - the highest Sunday toll in seven months  

By DAVID WILCOCK, WHITEHALL CORRESPONDENT and JAMES GANT and ISABELLA NIKOLIC FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 08:40, 10 January 2021 | UPDATED: 16:11, 10 January 2021

 

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Lots of people took to the beach for a walk in North Tyneside today 

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People in Hampstead queue outside food stalls on Sunday 

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Police officers [without masks] talk to a cyclist in Greenwich on Sunday 

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Masses of people were spotted walking through Victoria Park in east London today 

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Police [with nose sticking out of mask] speak to people who had been seated on a bench in Hyde Park today   

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12 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

Right, makes a lot of sense, perhaps intentionally fractured from within. I only have experience with Germany where I was living for 5 months and a lot of people have been saying the main one there Querdenken has already been infiltrated and is now effectively controlled opposition.

 

Telegram etc is promising but I'm starting to think tee only way now is guerilla promotion. Get groups together plastering cities with dates of a demonstration, spray paint it onto walls, anything that gets peoples attention. Tech is increasingly not our friend, if we rely on it in the long run it's not going to work out very well. 

 

I'm not down with spray painting or doing any damage to public property. CHALK protests are a harmless way to leave a message

 

Ultimately I want britain to be a more beautiful place because i believe that environment affects peoples wellbeing. Spray paint scrawled everywhere makes a place look like a shithole and i see the uptick in graffitti in recent years as part of cultural marxism

 

As for infiltration, the cabal will always seek to infiltrate anything that has traction because they are control freaks. The founder of the SAS David Stirling was tasked with infiltrating the british trade unions in the 1970's and he set up a taskforce to achieve that goal called 'great britain 75' and was bankrolled by the jewish financier Jimmy Goldsmith

 

The winged dagger used as an emblem by the SAS is also used by the CIA created Operation Gladio stay behind armies that were likely behind a raft of false flag terror attacks including the bologna train bombing

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4 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

Regarding last Thursday's Clap for Carers/Clap for Heros/Clap For NHS, I asked a neighbour why he did not clap at 8pm, who had clapped the last time, he said everyone is fed up with it all and did not bother. 

 

Also, nice to see here all the people who have had enough with the BS just going out and not wearing masks, including the law enforcement community.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9131071/Priti-Patel-defends-police-strong-enforcement-Covid-rules.html

So much for staying at home! Crowds of people head to beaches and town centres despite Boris Johnson begging families to stay at home as Covid hospital deaths hit 573 – the highest Sunday in seven months

  • Hordes of visitors were spotted having a stroll on Tynemouth Longsands beach in North Tyneside today 
  • Car parks in the area were packed as families descended on the coastal beauty spot for a Sunday walk 
  • And in London masses of people were seen taking to Hampstead high street and queuing at food stalls
  • It comes as Covid hospital deaths hit 573 - the highest Sunday toll in seven months  

By DAVID WILCOCK, WHITEHALL CORRESPONDENT and JAMES GANT and ISABELLA NIKOLIC FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 08:40, 10 January 2021 | UPDATED: 16:11, 10 January 2021

 

37829448-9131071-image-a-54_161029112501

Lots of people took to the beach for a walk in North Tyneside today 

37829674-9131071-image-a-34_161029095365

People in Hampstead queue outside food stalls on Sunday 

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Police officers [without masks] talk to a cyclist in Greenwich on Sunday 

37831022-9131071-image-a-75_161029351280

Masses of people were spotted walking through Victoria Park in east London today 

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Police [with nose sticking out of mask] speak to people who had been seated on a bench in Hyde Park today   

 

"Covid hospital deaths hit 573"

 

Is anyone actually verifying these claimed death figures? I smell bullshit.

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20 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

Regarding last Thursday's Clap for Carers/Clap for Heros/Clap For NHS, I asked a neighbour why he did not clap at 8pm, who had clapped the last time, he said everyone is fed up with it all and did not bother. 

 

Also, nice to see here all the people who have had enough with the BS just going out and not wearing masks, including the law enforcement community.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9131071/Priti-Patel-defends-police-strong-enforcement-Covid-rules.html

So much for staying at home! Crowds of people head to beaches and town centres despite Boris Johnson begging families to stay at home as Covid hospital deaths hit 573 – the highest Sunday in seven months

  • Hordes of visitors were spotted having a stroll on Tynemouth Longsands beach in North Tyneside today 
  • Car parks in the area were packed as families descended on the coastal beauty spot for a Sunday walk 
  • And in London masses of people were seen taking to Hampstead high street and queuing at food stalls
  • It comes as Covid hospital deaths hit 573 - the highest Sunday toll in seven months  

By DAVID WILCOCK, WHITEHALL CORRESPONDENT and JAMES GANT and ISABELLA NIKOLIC FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 08:40, 10 January 2021 | UPDATED: 16:11, 10 January 2021

 

37829448-9131071-image-a-54_161029112501

Lots of people took to the beach for a walk in North Tyneside today 

37829674-9131071-image-a-34_161029095365

People in Hampstead queue outside food stalls on Sunday 

37831024-9131071-image-a-73_161029348825

Police officers [without masks] talk to a cyclist in Greenwich on Sunday 

37831022-9131071-image-a-75_161029351280

Masses of people were spotted walking through Victoria Park in east London today 

37830920-9131071-image-a-65_161029328528

Police [with nose sticking out of mask] speak to people who had been seated on a bench in Hyde Park today   

 

If I understand the regulations correctly, the various people in these photos appear to be compliant.  They don't have to wear masks outdoors, they just need to be physically-distanced from others who are not of the same household or within their 'bubble' (which it appears they are).

 

However, on clicking the Mail Online link, there are pictures of crowds in close proximity to each other, so it looks like there's a lot of breaches going on and the propaganda isn't getting through.  It could be that we're witnessing a version of the old joke told in the Soviet Union: "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work".  In this case it's: "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to comply, in most situations, but not all".

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8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

As for infiltration, the cabal will always seek to infiltrate anything that has traction because they are control freaks. The founder of the SAS David Stirling was tasked with infiltrating the british trade unions in the 1970's and he set up a taskforce to achieve that goal called 'great britain 75' and was bankrolled by the jewish financier Jimmy Goldsmith

 

The winged dagger used as an emblem by the SAS is also used by the CIA created Operation Gladio stay behind armies that were likely behind a raft of false flag terror attacks including the bologna train bombing

 

The British Army operation for rolling out the vaccine is called Delta Force, named after the U.S. special forces unit which also has the dagger emblem.

 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9107423/Army-teams-deliver-vaccinations-fleet-Land-Rovers-Chinook-helicopters.html

The Armed Forces will create 150 mobile vaccination teams to deliver Covid jabs as part of a mission dubbed Operation Delta Force, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Defence sources say the operation – named after the elite US Special Forces unit – will involve teams of medics and logistics experts helping to deliver the vaccine in harsh winter weather.

 

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6 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

If I understand the regulations correctly, the various people in these photos appear to be compliant.  They don't have to wear masks outdoors, they just need to be physically-distanced from others who are not of the same household or within their 'bubble' (which it appears they are).

 

However, on clicking the Mail Online link, there are pictures of crowds in close proximity to each other, so it looks like there's a lot of breaches going on and the propaganda isn't getting through.  It could be that we're witnessing a version of the old joke told in the Soviet Union: "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work".  In this case it's: "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to comply, in most situations, but not all".

 

Yes that is true, they don't have to wear masks outside. IMO, the photos show that many people are not or no longer scared of the COVID virus and are going out where crowds are.  In Italy, for example, up to 95% of people, in certain places, are wearing masks out in the street, even though it is not the law when not in groups.  

 

You are also right about the propaganda not getting through.  As well as the propaganda not getting through, I do think there is a big element of propaganda overload kicking in, people are seeing through the propaganda exaggerations or just tired of it.

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2 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

The British Army operation for rolling out the vaccine is called Delta Force, named after the U.S. special forces unit which also has the dagger emblem.

 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9107423/Army-teams-deliver-vaccinations-fleet-Land-Rovers-Chinook-helicopters.html

The Armed Forces will create 150 mobile vaccination teams to deliver Covid jabs as part of a mission dubbed Operation Delta Force, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Defence sources say the operation – named after the elite US Special Forces unit – will involve teams of medics and logistics experts helping to deliver the vaccine in harsh winter weather.

 

 

 

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58 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Do you mind elaborating?

 

Just a couple of things I have spotted.

 

I have seen various other, similar I objects from time to time, but didn't have a camera or phone at the time.

 

There have been heaps of sightings over the years in this area.

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1 minute ago, allymisfit said:

 

Just a couple of things I have spotted.

 

I have seen various other, similar I objects from time to time, but didn't have a camera or phone at the time.

 

There have been heaps of sightings over the years in this area.

 

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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17 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

Apologies in advance, as this may be an unpopular thing to say, but:

 

1. I really don't care about people's fortunes and misfortunes on social media.  It is frivolous and an utter waste of time.  I will not have a Facebook or Twitter account or join any other social media.  I did, briefly, have Facebook and Twitter accounts in the distant past and it quickly became a very unpleasant experience as soon as I started expressing independent views of my own.  Social media is human nature in concentration.  98% of people cannot think for themselves.  They are not thick or stupid - I think that's the wrong way of looking at it - it's more that most people are wired-up for socialising, not for thinking.  This is necessary for society to function smoothly and probably has an evolutionary explanation.  If everybody could or would think for themselves, we'd have a civil war by 9 o'clock tomorrow morning.

 

2. I actually think the repression of free speech and all the abuses that are now going on over Covid-19 is a positive thing.  The reason for this is that the powers these people are agglomerating for themselves can be used against them in the future.  The tables can be turned.  What's often forgotten, or not known by many, is that the Weimar Republic was a dictatorship before Hitler came to power.  It became that way in an effort to put down and suppress people like Hitler, but the effort ultimately failed and Hitler took advantage of his opponents' error and assumed the powers they had taken for themselves.  The further powers he then took were within a framework of legality already established. 

 

Remember: if they can ban you from speaking or social media or whatever, then one day you can ban them.  They are digging their own graves.  They are fools.

 

The way to defeat authoritarianism and malevolent totalitarianism is through debate and by listening to and acting on people's legitimate concerns and being seen to do so.  These fools have tried to suppress and ignore alternative viewpoints, and by doing so all they have achieved is to make the eventual penalty they must suffer all the worse.

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5 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

coming from a guy which most known simbol is dead man on a torturing device 

 

If his Vatican enemies want him eliminated, they will give him the real Covid vaccine and hope for the best. If he is being protected, his doctors will make sure he gets a harmless saline solution.

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5 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Apologies in advance, as this may be an unpopular thing to say, but:

 

1. I really don't care about people's fortunes and misfortunes on social media.  It is frivolous and an utter waste of time.  I will not have a Facebook or Twitter account or join any other social media.  I did, briefly, have Facebook and Twitter accounts in the distant past and it quickly became a very unpleasant experience as soon as I started expressing independent views of my own.  Social media is human nature in concentration.  98% of people cannot think for themselves.  They are not thick or stupid - I think that's the wrong way of looking at it - it's more that most people are wired-up for socialising, not for thinking.  This is necessary for society to function smoothly and probably has an evolutionary explanation.  If everybody could or would think for themselves, we'd have a civil war by 9 o'clock tomorrow morning.

 

2. I actually think the repression of free speech and all the abuses that are now going on over Covid-19 is a positive thing.  The reason for this is that the powers these people are agglomerating for themselves can be used against them in the future.  The tables can be turned.  What's often forgotten, or not known by many, is that the Weimar Republic was a dictatorship before Hitler came to power.  It became that way in an effort to put down and suppress people like Hitler, but the effort ultimately failed and Hitler took advantage of his opponents' error and assumed the powers they had taken for themselves.  The further powers he then took were within a framework of legality already established. 

 

Remember: if they can ban you from speaking or social media or whatever, then one day you can ban them.  They are digging their own graves.  They are fools.

 

The way to defeat authoritarianism and malevolent totalitarianism is through debate and by listening to and acting on people's legitimate concerns and being seen to do so.  These fools have tried to suppress and ignore alternative viewpoints, and by doing so all they have achieved is to make the eventual penalty they must suffer all the worse.

 

I'm torn on this, but I hear you. Social media seems like the only practical way to reach normal folks while we're in lockdowns, but I also understand the power of the Streisand effect.

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