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24 minutes ago, epsom said:

 

Yes...so deadly that the total world death toll is at the same level as any other year.

Even if Covid was real, I'd rather get it than the vaccine.

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2 hours ago, Velma said:

But I'm sure it contains animal products anyway, monkey cells, shark oil and bovine material.

Fk knows what it contains, they refuse to specially tell us, except in the vaguest terms. In the same kind of way they haven't provided the raw data of their 'testing' to any third party for peer-review either. And everyone is expected to be perfectly OK with this *facepalm*

 

Oh and if it contains any aborted fetal cells like some vax and food products do (which factcheckers say is false because those aborted fetal cells are cloned cells from the original abortions from the 1960s) - thats ok too because the Pope has now said to the billion Catholics those types of vax will be ok. Abortion=Bad -  Aborted Baby Cells in Vax=Good.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-ingredients-b1774537.html

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2 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Fk knows what it contains, they refuse to specially tell us, except in the vaguest terms. In the same kind of way they haven't provided the raw data of their 'testing' to any third party for peer-review either. And everyone is expected to be perfectly OK with this *facepalm*

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-ingredients-b1774537.html

 

From the article.

 

The result is a 95 per cent effective vaccine with no safety concerns according to Pfizer and BioNTech, while Moderna says its version is 94.5 per cent effective.

 

So if there are no safety concerns why the need for legal indemnity for vaccine side effects?

 

 

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CDC, Miami-Dade investigate death of Miami Beach doctor following COVID-19 vaccine

Pfizer, the manufacturer of the vaccine Michael received Dec. 18, said Michael died of a “highly unusual clinical case of severe thrombocytopenia, a condition that decreases the body’s ability to clot blood and stop internal bleeding.”

“We are actively investigating this case, but we don’t believe at this time that there is any direct connection to the vaccine,” a company spokesman said in an email.

The Medical Examiner’s Office, which conducted an autopsy Tuesday, has not ruled out a connection to the vaccine, said Darren Caprara, director of operations at the county office.

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In her post, Neckelmann said Michael — whom she called “the love of my life” — was vaccinated at Mount Sinai on Dec. 18 and within three days he noticed bruising on his feet and hands, which prompted his hospitalization. Doctors at the hospital diagnosed him with Immune thrombocytopenia, or ITP, a blood disorder caused by an immune reaction, Neckelmann said. Michael died of a stroke after attempts to raise his platelet count were unsuccessful.

He was a very healthy 56 year old, loved by everyone in the community, delivered hundreds of healthy babies and worked tireless through the pandemic,” Neckelmann wrote.

Researches have found evidence of an association between ITP and the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine, according to a 2003 study published in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology. It is an “uncommon condition” that rarely leads to health complications, the study says.

 

“The risk of ITP occurring within the 6 weeks after vaccination with MMR is significantly increased. However the attributable risk of ITP within 6 weeks after MMR vaccination remains low at 1 in 25,000 vaccinated children. Complications or long-term consequences of ITP in this age group are rare,” the researchers wrote.

 

CDC probes death of Miami Beach doctor after COVID vaccine | Miami Herald

 

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18 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

The result is a 95 per cent effective with no safety concerns according to Pfizer and BioNTech, while Moderna says its version is 94.5 per cent effective.

 

So if there are no safety concerns why the need for legal indemnity for vaccine side effects?

 

The $64,000 question. Or $64,000,000,000 might be a bit nearer the mark.

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31 minutes ago, Velma said:

Even if Covid was real, I'd rather get it than the vaccine.

I tested positive for the antibodies back in the summer. I was unwell late March (ish) muscle pain, nausea, sleepiness and abdominal pain. No cough.  I don’t understand the antibody test fully but it said I tested positive for igg antibodies. 
Immunoglobulin G (IgG): This is the most common antibody. It's in blood and other body fluids, and protects against bacterial and viral infections. IgG can take time .

 

so from that I think this antibody can occur from general infection but does not have to be covid 19 as they say. 

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A major new public awareness campaign has been launched, urging people to behave like they are infected with coronavirus.

 

The campaign - made up of TV and radio adverts as well as a social media blitz - tells people to stay at home and "act like you've got it".

 

 

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37 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Fk knows what it contains, they refuse to specially tell us, except in the vaguest terms. In the same kind of way they haven't provided the raw data of their 'testing' to any third party for peer-review either. And everyone is expected to be perfectly OK with this *facepalm*

 

Oh and if it contains any aborted fetal cells like some vax and food products do (which factcheckers say is false because those aborted fetal cells are cloned cells from the original abortions from the 1960s) - thats ok too because the Pope has now said to the billion Catholics those types of vax will be ok. Abortion=Bad -  Aborted Baby Cells in Vax=Good.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-ingredients-b1774537.html

 

You can find the list of ingredients for each below

 

Moderna https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download

BioNTech https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

AZ https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca#what-you-need-to-know-before-you-receive-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca

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2 hours ago, Velma said:

A major new public awareness campaign has been launched, urging people to behave like they are infected with coronavirus.

 

The campaign - made up of TV and radio adverts as well as a social media blitz - tells people to stay at home and "act like you've got it".

 

 

Im surprised that psychological warfare trope took so long to be rolled out in the UK. That was the first thing we were told in NZ back in March! lol I suppose thats minor compared to the rest of the damaging shyte thats be psychically-driven into the third eye of the British people over the past years.

 

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4 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Im surprised that psychological warfare trope took so long to be rolled out in the UK. That was the first thing we were told in NZ back in March! lol I suppose thats minor compared to the rest of the damaging shyte thats be psychically-driven into the third eye of the British people over the past years.

 

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Thats what Handcock told us a few weeks ago.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-55384162

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2 hours ago, dumbcritic said:

WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE? The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine contains the following ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol [PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium acetate, and sucrose.

 

Yes yes, those ingredients were known about. But there's no explanation as to what the synthetic "messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA)" is made of though. 

 

From the independent article, still yet to be released to the public - to my knowledge

 

What, exactly, the Covid vaccine is made of is a question of chemistry in the creation of that synthetic mRNA, which Dr Weissman said is propriety information and would be buried in a complex web of patents.  

Neither Pfizer nor Moderna immediately responded to requests for a breakdown of the chemistry in BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Velma said:

The campaign - made up of TV and radio adverts as well as a social media blitz - tells people to stay at home and "act like you've got it".

 

I'm not very good at acting but I'll try my best.📽️

 

 

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