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9 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

these are people who don't even believe that you should get to decide what goes into your own body so of course they don't believe that you should have any control over what goes on in your own home

 

they believe it all belongs to them and that we are just their chattel

 

we need to collectively remind them that we are free and sovereign beings

 

Quite.

So the question is - Do we have a right to life.

They are implying that we dont with their machinations.

 

Maybe it would be useful to spell out what an individuals innate right to life entails for the sake of clarity as it pertinent to every thread.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, numnuts said:

Yes, a 'Buy now; pay very dearly later, in all sorts of different ways' kind of holiday.

 

In a way who can blame the british public for taking a breather......our society has been turned into a mass production, corporate hellscape where people have to commute for long periods of time to go to jobs that they don't feel good about

 

then suddenly they are being paid to stay at home.....

 

but we can't stay on the island of calypso forever......our kingdom is being taken from us and we must snap out of the daze and start viewing a new path forward where we aren't turned into slaves on a technocratic plantation

 

 

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1 hour ago, Liberty said:

In 2019, there were 530,841 deaths registered in England and Wales. 

Using the Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional, as at week 46 (13th November 2020) 529,928 registered deaths in England and Wales

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/totaldeathsin2019and2020sofarintheuk

 

 

 

Just a point to note that if you go back to 1993.

The yearly total for 1993 is (578,512) (highest for last 30 years)

 

The average for years 1990 to 2019 is 531,406 (i.e 30 years)

My numbers may differ slightly by a few units or so from your quoted one, as I have 2019 total down as 530,857.

 

Looking at the numbers I think 2020 will have the highest of the last 31 years - I have totals on a monthly basis and for 2020 Jan - Nov the 11 month total is 551,326.

So with Dec total still to be declared on ONS site, the final TOTAL for 2020 will be above 600,000. (possibly over 610,000 depending on vaccines!!!!)

 

The "EXCESSIVE" month total was April when the April total was 88,153 (15* year average 45,911 ) so that "EXCESS" of 43,000 - due to Lock Downs etc (in my opinion) takes the yearly total to about usual total.

Even if you disregard the suggestion on "EXCESS due to lockdown" I still do NOT consider there to be a PANDEMIC!!!!

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*The reason for the 15 year average and not 30 years is that ONS data for years 1990 - 2005 is only given on a weekly basis, whereas from 2006 to present day it is given on both weekly AND a MONTHLY basis).

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6 minutes ago, zarkov said:

So the question is - Do we have a right to life.

They are implying that we dont with their machinations.

 

If you look at the span of history it is possible to view it as a long process of removing people from the land that sustained them and the skills and knowledge that enabled them to live on the land so that they became one-trick-pony wage slaves

 

Now the technocracy with its AI, robots and general automation is threatening to take even that one-trick away from the one dimensional wage slave

 

Our bodies are the last piece of land that we as individuals control and that is why the cabal is so desperate to occupy that territory with nanotech, so that there is not one corner of this green earth that they don't control

 

That is the true history of humanity but you won't hear it outlined like that in a textbook!

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

these are people who don't even believe that you should get to decide what goes into your own body so of course they don't believe that you should have any control over what goes on in your own home

 

they believe it all belongs to them and that we are just their chattel

 

we need to collectively remind them that we are free and sovereign beings

 

I will welcome & greet them like Joerg: "welcome to the slingshot channel." 

 

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6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

is that factoring for the MASSIVE growth of britains population over the last 30 years?

 

Not sure what you are getting at - All I was quoting were numbers from ONS website and "attempting" a prediction for total deaths using a "guestimated" number for Dec as the Dec total will not be issued by ONS until 26th Jan.

 

I was trying to make the point with the quoting of the numbers that I did NOT feel that the TOTAL DEATH numbers justified a "PANDEMIC" label.

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1 minute ago, Concerned Citizen said:

Not sure what you are getting at - All I was quoting were numbers from ONS website and "attempting" a prediction for total deaths using a "guestimated" number for Dec as the Dec total will not be issued by ONS until 26th Jan.

 

if you look at the population of a country when it is 50 million and x amount of people die that year and then you skip forward 30 years and find that the population has grown by approx 20 million and then look again at the overall death figures for that year then you will have to account for the increase of 20 million if you want to compare the years because a larger population will have proportionately more deaths

 

so it makes sense if our overall death rate is rising each year because our population is also rising in number

 

more people, more deaths

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8 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

the BBC is simply the state-propaganda arm

 

Its just an offshoot of the government so essentially they are proposing that they will tax us to pay for the propaganda they intend to impose on us. Essentially we would pay for our own mind control...pretty sick

 

I suppose next they'll be telling me that I legally need to own a television

 

i don't own a smart phone either so i'm part of a very small tribe of people who they are going to have to box in with legislation that at each stage will mark another step towards totalitarianism

 

I don't own anything smart so everytime they bully me to own something it will expose them for what they are

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

if you look at the population of a country when it is 50 million and x amount of people die that year and then you skip forward 30 years and find that the population has grown by approx 20 million and then look again at the overall death figures for that year then you will have to account for the increase of 20 million if you want to compare the years because a larger population will have proportionately more deaths

 

so it makes sense if our overall death rate is rising each year because our population is also rising in number

 

more people, more deaths

 

Yes, ok with what you are stating - I was just stating ABSOLUTE numbers, so your reasoning adds more credence to my statement that there was no need for the "PANDEMIC" label. 

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3 minutes ago, Concerned Citizen said:

Yes, ok with what you are stating - I was just stating ABSOLUTE numbers, so your reasoning adds more credence to my statement that there was no need for the "PANDEMIC" label. 

 

it would be interesting to see those figures adjusted to account for proportionality....it would iron them out quite a bit i would think

 

bare in mind also that the official figures for our current population size will be a load of bollocks. The reason the death count was so high for grenfell was that it was packed with immigrants. There are who knows how many illegal immigrants living in the UK and their health problems will all feed into the figures when they die so you'd have to adjust for that too

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1 hour ago, Mr H said:

Ah Talk Radio Youtube channel re-instated just now. 

 

I am telling everyone to beware! The PTB will always seek to control those minds at the boundaries as well; rather than lose them completely. This doesn't necessarily mean that everyone at TalkRadio is a shill. Just keep an open mind and beware.

 

1 hour ago, Liberty said:
Still hearing some challenge to the delayed second dose Covid vaccine strategy. I am not clinical, so I checked with all 3 of our Medical Directors across the Group. All 3 support the notion that giving more people protection is better than giving a few the maximum

 

Any turd that drops from the PTB's anus, one way or the other, will at least 'officially' always soon become Gospel.

 

55 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Imagine what our grandfathers and great grandfathers who fought for this country would think of that......our own police and army turned against us.....which is probably why 1 in 6 police is off sick (because it makes them sick to the stomach to be ordered to brutalise their own people like some sort of latter day sheriff of nottignhams henchmen)

 

I know. This is why, some months ago now, I was questioning who might end up working for the PTB, nationality-wise, and how. You know, like could some sweaty 18 year old, beavering away in his mom's Tel Aviv basement, 'technically' be working for and being paid by the U.K. army? In a roundabout, funky sort of way, it wouldn't at all surprise me!  

 

46 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

Here's a tip: Get rid of TV. I did so years ago and never regretted it. It's full of negativity and doom.

 

Some mornings, when I watch GMB or BBC Breakfast News, purely just to catch up on all of their latest bullshit, it does get me down a bit.

 

43 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Police chief calls for power of entry into homes of suspected lockdown breakers 🐷

 

It looks like the Granddaughter Of Joseph could soon be getting carted off then. 😀

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3 minutes ago, numnuts said:

I know. This is why, some months ago now, I was questioning who might end up working for the PTB, nationality-wise, and how. You know, like could some sweaty 18 year old, beavering away in his mom's Tel Aviv basement, 'technically' be working for and being paid by the U.K. army? In a roundabout, funky sort of way, it wouldn't at all surprise me! 

 

yes absolutely that will be the case in a globalised world because work is outsourced

 

it will be israeli artificial intelligence, no doubt, that is moved closer and closer to the centre of the increasingly automated police, military, high frequency trading, government, education, health, transport, internet of things smart grid etc

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42 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I'm sorry to hear your bad news

 

Everytime i ask someone who says they know someone with covid symptoms whether or not that person had previously had the flu vaccine they always say that they have

 

So what i think is happening is that a process called 'molecular mimicry' is occuring with the flu vaccines that is making people sick and then they are presenting to hospitals with certain symptoms that the hospitals are then terming 'covid' because they give them PCR tests at above 35 cycles which then produce false positives for coronavirus.

 

The treatments in the hospitals then cause even further problems for example ventilating people and then when they die it is recorded as a covid death instead of an adverse reaction to the flu vaccine

 

I also believe that the same process is going to occur with the covid injections but obviously on an industrual scale which will then once again be blamed on 'an even more virulent strain of coronavirus' and not on the vaccines.

 

Wow that is a good observation! 

Both my parents got the vaccination as they're terrified of the flu and everything else out there.

 

A few of my friends in healthcare have had their vaccines also. 

Many of them hate their jobs and stay because they couldn't afford otherwise.

 

Why can't we wake from this horrible nightmare, I wonder about that on a daily basis..

 

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

If you look at the span of history it is possible to view it as a long process of removing people from the land that sustained them and the skills and knowledge that enabled them to live on the land so that they became one-trick-pony wage slaves

 

Now the technocracy with its AI, robots and general automation is threatening to take even that one-trick away from the one dimensional wage slave

 

Our bodies are the last piece of land that we as individuals control and that is why the cabal is so desperate to occupy that territory with nanotech, so that there is not one corner of this green earth that they don't control

 

That is the true history of humanity but you won't hear it outlined like that in a textbook!

 

That has been the case with slavery throughout human history though too.

They attribute no value to us other than what they can squeeze from us.

The technology used is an enhancement of the same problem.

 

The value of self worth and right to life it seems has to be individually recognised and comprehended.

Once that is achieved by the self then it is more easily recognised in others if only because it  is no longer foreign.

That then would form the basis for an actual society to emerge rather than the current subsistence within this construct which is not a society.

 

To be more specific and expand.

Each individual has a right to life.

From that starting point then it can be gleaned that we have a right to volition.

Volition ultimately pertains to our innate right to life.

Curtailment of any individual rights then by default denies the right to life.

I.E. the state demands our death.

That can be worded in many different forms - some emotive and stirring  - I am no wordsmith as you can see.

 

A natural right can not be removed, not permanently nor temporarily.

If they can be removed, then they are not rights.

 

The simple concept of self appears to be missing among many nowadays. Ironic with selfie mania all over social media.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Concerned Citizen said:

 

Just a point to note that if you go back to 1993.

The yearly total for 1993 is (578,512) (highest for last 30 years)

 

The average for years 1990 to 2019 is 531,406 (i.e 30 years)

My numbers may differ slightly by a few units or so from your quoted one, as I have 2019 total down as 530,857.

 

Looking at the numbers I think 2020 will have the highest of the last 31 years - I have totals on a monthly basis and for 2020 Jan - Nov the 11 month total is 551,326.

So with Dec total still to be declared on ONS site, the final TOTAL for 2020 will be above 600,000. (possibly over 610,000 depending on vaccines!!!!)

 

The "EXCESSIVE" month total was April when the April total was 88,153 (15* year average 45,911 ) so that "EXCESS" of 43,000 - due to Lock Downs etc (in my opinion) takes the yearly total to about usual total.

Even if you disregard the suggestion on "EXCESS due to lockdown" I still do NOT consider there to be a PANDEMIC!!!!

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*The reason for the 15 year average and not 30 years is that ONS data for years 1990 - 2005 is only given on a weekly basis, whereas from 2006 to present day it is given on both weekly AND a MONTHLY basis).

The way I would work it out would be anything since the end date and add it on! I’ve got a paper saved to say the increased rate was from non covid at home deaths. I think this was people just too frightened to go to hospital when they needed to.  When I find it I will post it. Do you know Why was 1993 so high?

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45 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

so if we cast our minds back to tony blairs ID CARDS that he tried to have pushed onto the public, the vision for those was that it would merge your drivers licence, passport and so on into one card

 

Once the banks are socialised into the technocracy that card could also be your bank card to allow you to swipe in shops to make purchases with your digital currency

 

'Except why have it in a card that you can lose'...they will say......'why not have it in a convenient RFID microchip injected into your hand so that you have everything you need wherever you go? etc'

 

Yes, then David Camoron tried tentatively pushing the idea, before backtracking. Loads of money still did somehow get 'squandered' though, I do vividly recall.

 

43 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

these are people who don't even believe that you should get to decide what goes into your own body so of course they don't believe that you should have any control over what goes on in your own home. they believe it all belongs to them and that we are just their chattel

 

Evil, control freaks of the highest order, just like Tony Blair.

 

34 minutes ago, Sexpistol50 said:

Just watched that Evil Bastard Sir Starmer do his speech with a union jack behind him and what looked like a blacked out window, he said ' We were the first country in the world to get the vaccine, let's be the first in the world to get our country vaccinated' and finished off by saying 'We Will Rebuild '

 

How dare he! The simple message, which was delivered during this year's virtual Labour Party annual conference, was that we are a 'patriotic party'. This translates as 'Fuck policy. Anything goes, in the name of patriotism!'.  

 

30 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

In a way who can blame the british public for taking a breather..... our society has been turned into a mass production, corporate hellscape where people have to commute for long periods of time to go to jobs that they don't feel good about. then suddenly they are being paid to stay at home....

 

Indeed.

 

29 minutes ago, Concerned Citizen said:

The "EXCESSIVE" month total was April when the April total was 88,153 (15* year average 45,911 ) so that "EXCESS" of 43,000 - due to Lock Downs etc (in my opinion) takes the yearly total to about usual total. Even if you disregard the suggestion on "EXCESS due to lockdown" I still do NOT consider there to be a PANDEMIC!!!!

 

Exactly, the cull of those already living right on the edge. And which we all called out, just before the first lockdown even began.

 

24 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

is that factoring for the MASSIVE growth of britains population over the last 30 years?

 

I would say almost certainly not and I hadn't thought of that before. Both Concerned Citizen and yourself make good points.

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1 hour ago, Liberty said:
 
 
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Still hearing some challenge to the delayed second dose Covid vaccine strategy. I am not clinical, so I checked with all 3 of our Medical Directors across the Group. All 3 support the notion that giving more people protection is better than giving a few the maximum 

 
 

Sums up what I wrote earlier today. Could see this coming a mile off

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18 minutes ago, allymisfit said:

A few of my friends in healthcare have had their vaccines also. 

Many of them hate their jobs and stay because they couldn't afford otherwise.

 

I worked in healthcare and accepted vaccinations at the time because i believed in them at that point in my life so I have seen the world through their eyes

 

I hold a different view now because i've learned that studies have not been conducted into the non specific effects of vaccines therefore without knowing the full extent of the harms caused by vaccines we, as a society, are not in a position to make a clear and accurate assessment of the cost to benefit ratio which is the entire foundation that people base their pro-vaccine arguments on

 

What they will always say is 'yes ok its true that vaccines sometimes harm some people, but they are a tiny number of people and the damage done to them is far outweighed by the good done by vaccines'

 

But the flaw in this viewpoint is that they haven't fully assessed the harms because as i say they don't do the research into the 'non specific effects' caused by vaccines, nor do they accurately record all the adverse reactions (some estimates say that about 1% of adverse reactions actually make it onto the VAERS records)

 

So if we have a big set of scales and on one side we are placing ''successfully produced antibodies against measles'' and on the other side we are supposed to put ''ALL of the harms caused by the vaccines'' we find that they are not doing that

 

So another way to look at it would be to do studies of vaccinated v's unvaccinated people which you would think would be the first thing they would do but they haven't done those studies except for a few surveys. Also when they record the 'unvaccinated' subjects they don't mean people who have had NO VACCINES AT ALL they mean they have subjects who haven't had that specific vaccine that they want to look at so there is all kinds of skull duggery going on

 

They're doing the same with this covid jab as they are now going to offer vaccines to the placebo groups which will prevent a long term comparison of health outcomes but once again those placebo people won't be people who have never had any vaccines at all, they will just be people who haven't had the covid vaccines

 

Science should have a proper CONTROL group but the vaccine industry never does!

 

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Why can't we wake from this horrible nightmare, I wonder about that on a daily basis..

 

well at the risk of being a bit dark i see this as simply the latest chapter in a nightmare that has been going on for a long long time. All that happened for the baby boomers and the generations that came after is that they got an easy ride on cheap credit and mass production so they got complacent and dropped their guard and are now relearning the rules to this game

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The PCR test apparatus comes with a pamphlet on how to use it, what it was meant for and what it was not meant for. This suggests to me that either the instructions are written in Phoenician or they were separated from the devices before delivery. I still have not seen a pdf or photo of this so-called instruction manual. Are coaches or agents going around showing them how to use the PCR?

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14 minutes ago, zarkov said:

Each individual has a right to life.

From that starting point then it can be gleaned that we have a right to volition.

Volition ultimately pertains to our innate right to life.

Curtailment of any individual rights then by default denies the right to life.

I.E. the state demands our death.

 

Well said!

 

Sorry im outta likes but i totally agree. If enough people were thinking that way this situation could not happen in the first place

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