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1 hour ago, zarkov said:

Government  therefore is war.

It is no delusion that life would be fine without war!  War is antithetical to life. Ergo - Government is antithetical to life.

 

Well ... I know all about Government problems ... so I am just presenting the other side of the case, it's not that I don't think there is a problem.
Government is simply another name for a collective organisation to organise this group of people - that's what it means and that's all.
(Is there corruption stupidity and idiocy - absolutely.)

This is interesting is war antithetical to life ?
This is a very interesting question.
Is death antithetical to life ... because we all die ... so it seems that being alive is antithetical to life ... how can a life where you die be ... er ... pro-life ?
Well ... therein lies a story.


How about this ... when da Vinci was young he drew all sorts of shit on crappy paper and threw it in the bin.  And over time that helped him to become the kind of artist who never needs to throw anything in the bin because it's all awesome.  ... this is an anlogy.

You know it's good to have an 'ology' ... so here's another one.
If you want to make a steel suspension bridge across da River, it is often necessary to build a kind of wooden bridge first as a sort of temporary scaffold, supports etc... ontop of which you build the big one.  Then you throw away the wooden one.
The wooden one is nothing compared to the steel one ... but it's necessary and whats more if you don't build the wooden one well ... then you screw up the steel one.  So each stage needs to be respected.
Of course you can say that you only want the steel one which is the best and refuse to build the wooden one ... but then you have to swim.


 

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1 hour ago, zarkov said:

 

I think everyone here comprehends the nature of this reality, the struggle for life  and,  that war is being levelled against us through the vessel of government. Government is the vessel for corruption. The practical considerations of Government could be fulfilled without their involvement. If so it might then be labelled as something else. Government is a state of mind;   The art of war (Sun Tzu)  exemplifies the practical enactments that have and are being directed at us in myriad of forms. Government  therefore is war.

It is no delusion that life would be fine without war!  War is antithetical to life. Ergo - Government is antithetical to life.

 

But as long as you live in the 3D duality there will be wars of varying degrees.

Wherever there is two people e.g. at home, neighbourhood, in an office, difference of opinion exists. Granted that we don't use a machine guns and bombs at home but it is like war nonetheless.

 

The point is how we can ride the tide masterfully like a cool seasoned surfer.

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17 hours ago, zarkov said:

 

 

Ijust want a light sabre to go with my shopping trolley that flashes green then amber and red to confuse the covidista .

File:Darth Vader.jpg

 

I have a feeling 2020 will be the year ComicCon fans will finally feel at home dressed up to go shopping on the high streets. Who would have thought this would be possible!

On the other hand, those Romanian Yoda will go out of business because there will be too many Yoda on the streets!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3131086/Yoda-Wars-break-Trafalgar-Square-Romanian-street-performers-dressed-Star-Wars-character-battle-best-spots.html

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45 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

 

 

When he zoomed in on the Corona beer bottle I thought nah....until X-file music came on...? Then the virus image. :classic_ohmy:

Well spotted!

 

I think Corona beer has been doing well this year. Everyone is buying in case load. I guess there is no bad publicity. *facepalm*

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2 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

Well ... I know all about Government problems ... so I am just presenting the other side of the case, it's not that I don't think there is a problem.
Government is simply another name for a collective organisation to organise this group of people - that's what it means and that's all.
(Is there corruption stupidity and idiocy - absolutely.)

This is interesting is war antithetical to life ?
This is a very interesting question.
Is death antithetical to life ... because we all die ... so it seems that being alive is antithetical to life ... how can a life where you die be ... er ... pro-life ?
Well ... therein lies a story.


How about this ... when da Vinci was young he drew all sorts of shit on crappy paper and threw it in the bin.  And over time that helped him to become the kind of artist who never needs to throw anything in the bin because it's all awesome.  ... this is an anlogy.

You know it's good to have an 'ology' ... so here's another one.
If you want to make a steel suspension bridge across da River, it is often necessary to build a kind of wooden bridge first as a sort of temporary scaffold, supports etc... ontop of which you build the big one.  Then you throw away the wooden one.
The wooden one is nothing compared to the steel one ... but it's necessary and whats more if you don't build the wooden one well ... then you screw up the steel one.  So each stage needs to be respected.
Of course you can say that you only want the steel one which is the best and refuse to build the wooden one ... but then you have to swim.


 

 

In simpler terms then are you saying that this is all necessary for our development, part of the process of learning at many different levels and ultimately cannot be changed or altered -that we have to learn to flow like water around these obstacles because they will always be there in some form or another? that this is the crucible of our formant? to attain the grace that we need to proceed?

& If as Chocomel states "The point is how we can ride the tide masterfully like a cool seasoned surfer."

Then I agree, and would add that my idealism comes partly from frustration - I have seen that people have to experience the negative first before the positive can be comprehended.

If this is the case then where is the delusion is presenting the polemic of libertarianism in the face of fascism? even if it is in 3d - it is another aspect - a valid one at that! 

 

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The funniest thing I saw today ,we went for a walk down the coast along a path that follows a river, which was more than a hundred mt across, around the corner comes this fellow paddling  a kayak in the middle of the river with a mask on , I just burst out laughing, I was told in no uncertain terms by the misses to shut up and don't say anything

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@zarkov
There is a "system" that is run by the universe that causes very gradual progression ... and I mean gradual.  So all these lunatics here are progressing but so slow that you should really want anything to speed it up, which means learning how to self develop and there is lot on many levels; physical, emotional, energetic, of consciousness, psychological.  Anyway most people just get slapped around a bit then die, and will do so 1000 more times before anything happens.  That is a lot of pain.
Question is what is the absolute maximum you can harvest form any situation.  Somebody attacks you.  What do you do?
Grovel, run, smokescreen ... hide, kiss ass, kill, negotiate ?  Well which of those can actually expedite  and not just in your imagination?  Which of those is worth training more?
Reason it out.
Because there are so many things to improve and you really don't want to come back to this place if you can help ... best is to take proper instruction with no bullshit, if you can find it.  And improve many things at once.
One way is like Seneca (Greek) he reasons everything.  It's good, rational.  But what about your feelings ... you are dead are you.  What about physical force because it all begins in the body.  And so on.

People always try to do everything with their mind, but truth be told your body (or your dynamic physical power), your psychology ... is just as important and needs much work.

Most humans do very little at all ... it all showers onto them good and bad they drift through die, and at best come back 1000 times.

 

Okay ... so we can all imagine world peace because part of us is more conscious ... but just a part.   Get that, it is just a part.  At best it can guide us, but don't be fooled and think it's time to set up shop, that's like slowing down when you are on the final straight - big mistake.  In fact you should look to overshoot the finish line by at least 20%.
If you are honest you know there are beasts in side, and deeper down maybe the beasts are quite frightening and will take a lot of taming.
That is your real world, that most people don't know.
And that's your job - no escape from what you are.
Wherever you go ... all that comes with you > and causes the universe to reflect it.
That's my view.
> start a new thread if more's to come
 

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@GarethIcke

Just want to report that the video from this page has been removed.

https://davidicke.com/2020/05/01/covid19-caused-vaccines-dr-judy-mikovits-phd/

 

I am touched by this video. :classic_sad:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NPYdyZpSZCEA/

 

There are so many courageous people in the world, not just David but scientists, doctors, nurses....bashed yet kept going. God bless them. ?

 

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5 hours ago, theo102 said:

 

Because people can contract the virus through their eyes.

 

is a yawn infectious? 

survival works on danger signs. a sneeze, a snotty nose, the sound of breathing, a cough will display a danger to another. the body will react to protect itself. 

the sick body uses the sight of symptoms as a route to health. it copies, mimicks to get better

 

viruses do not spread by cells through the air

 

the sick body is cleaning up dead matter, it sneezes it out, it coughs it out,   another body takes the cue

 

a healthy body doesnt need to mimick but it stores the information 

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With all this innvocation of war-time conditions, austerity for the war effort, volunteers, rations, we are in it together, pick for Britain etc., you could be excused for thinking 'conscription' is next on the cards, for all the thousands of people who now find themselves redundant and out-of-business.

 

And while we all focus on fake news, like “virus pandemics” or a contrived “race war” behind the scenes, British troops have just been completely absolved for a catalogue of war crimes committed in Iraq, for “lack of evidence.” Therefore, they can inflict torture, rape and murder, with impunity.

 

Russia has decreed it can now use a nuclear response to a non-nuclear attack, or against conventional arms. Norilsk Nickel of Russia has also caused an unprecedented ecological disaster in the Arctic, from a broken fuel tank at their plant, spewing oil into a formerly pristine environment.

 

After being given a green light by the Trump/Kushner “peace plan” Israel is poised to seize the West Bank and Jordan’s King Abdullah is warning of “massive conflict” with his country if they do. This is only a snippet of the affairs on the international “stage”which are passing under the radar.

 

Meanwhile, everyone is turning their attention to a “blacked-out” picture of another alleged suspect in the Madeleine McCann case, just like the “blackout” picures posted on social media last Tuesday. In the end, they published the patsy's face, so what are they trying to tell us about “blackouts?”

 

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Another medical specialist chips in.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8391349/Coronavirus-UK-Tony-Blair-urges-Government-introduce-mass-testing-programme.html

 

Wonder what the rate for these contributions is?

 

If nothing else people are seeing what decades of lobbying, hand outs and  subservience to corporate medicine has done to the running of this country.

 

People's health is never the bottom line.

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56 minutes ago, zArk said:

survival works on danger signs. a sneeze, a snotty nose, the sound of breathing, a cough will display a danger to another. the body will react to protect itself. 

That's not how it works at a biological level.

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23 minutes ago, serpentine said:

Another medical specialist chips in.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8391349/Coronavirus-UK-Tony-Blair-urges-Government-introduce-mass-testing-programme.html

 

Wonder what the rate for these contributions is?

 

If nothing else people are seeing what decades of lobbying, hand outs and  subservience to corporate medicine has done to the running of this country.

 

People's health is never the bottom line.

 

The reptillian faced Tony never says anything, unless the Elite has paid him and specified what to say. The Daily Mail rolls out the red carpet everytime even though most people consider Blair to be totally discredited. The Daily Mail is 99% the same in its core message as the BBC with the remaining 1% only being the difference in the window dressing.

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5 hours ago, chocomel said:

 

That's why the government is recommending not to wear a medical mask. Make sense? lol ?

According to Matt Hancock (penis jokes permitted) on the daily update, we can make our own at home. Must make a point of watching Blue Peter every day from now on, here's one I made earlier. More to come later. Feel a rant coming on, must be the rum.

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23 hours ago, jonesthepost said:

750 Billion euros recovery plan? (fuck off) How, and in what world can any one start a recovery plan with money that does not exist. Nothing will change while the lunatics run the asylum. 

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jones the post, not telling you to fuck off. Respect.
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40 minutes ago, banjo dog said:

750 Billion euros recovery plan? (fuck off) How, and in what world can any one start a recovery plan with money that does not exist. Nothing will change while the lunatics run the asylum. 

 

?, that’s okay banjo dog.

 

I live in hope.

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2 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

The reptillian faced Tony never says anything, unless the Elite has paid him and specified what to say. The Daily Mail rolls out the red carpet everytime even though most people consider Blair to be totally discredited. The Daily Mail is 99% the same in its core message as the BBC with the remaining 1% only being the difference in the window dressing.

Tony Blair knew all about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Therefore he must know all about covid/ corona virus. Feeling very flippant this evening, must be the rum and coke.

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56 minutes ago, banjo dog said:

Tony Blair knew all about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Therefore he must know all about covid/ corona virus. Feeling very flippant this evening, must be the rum and coke.

 

That's right and just like Saddam's WMDs, which never exsited and the 2 million people that marched against going to war in Iraq, the COVID can stirke in 45 minutes.

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If you were a shop owner in the bullshit induced trying times ,you could have some real fun

My sign out the front would say ,due to the covid19 virus you all have to stand on your heads 1.5 mts apart make bird noises and balance a packet of shit paper on your feet

Help keep the community safe

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