Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[zarkov]

1 hour ago, Seeker said:

Ive had a quick skim through the 4hr GAVI vaccine alliance conference today about raising money for GAVI. Some things I notice and would like to share, the first thing I cant ignore is the theme of ‘global’ and ‘centralisation’ which of course is perfect for NWO. One line that was relevant to the theme of things was something about needing ‘quality health services available to all by 2030’, as we know 2030 is a significant year. The other year that seems to have a deadline is 2025. Other things were more than one vaccine was needed, that was from a glasosmithkline representative, obvs after more money. Leaders saying everyone in all countries will need these vaccines. Satan, sorry I mean to bill gates makes an appearance towards the end and says the vaccines will be first for health care workers and the vulnerable, he didn’t actually say anything about mandatory, just those who need it. Maybe he now knows he won’t be able to impose it to the masses. You’ll notice boris Johnson was the big promoter of this conference and donation for GAVI, boris Johnson had a call with bill gates just a couple of weeks ago... overall the usual predictable crap

 

Appreciate you going through the  conference - Funding is an interesting point! 

 

The EU position is becoming  a pertinent issue as could the Euro!

The mere mention of the Lira must be a concern to them (see rideforevers quote below) not being in the direction that the global parasite class want !

It will be interesting to the fallout of this.

The bradbury Pound might also be an interesting proposition! 

Used in 1914

 

 

4 hours ago, rideforever said:

“Now virologists also say that this coronavirus is nonsense,” Pappalardo told the crowd as he argued against the use of masks. In addition, Pappalardo called for Italy to return to using its former currency, the lira.

 

 

[jonesthepost]

7 hours ago, Sothic said:

This is how the MSM is reporting it though...

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/leader-of-italys-orange-vests-inspires-far-right-and-coronavirus-conspiracy-theorists-kxrf705v7

 

Of  course they would; but let’s hope this carries on, with more and more people getting on the bandwagon.

 

Though the rioting is such a distraction (not to take away from the harm those fascistic aholes are doing) from the ‘pandemic’ that it’s not going to be easy.

[KingKitty]

9 hours ago, zArk said:

 

thats exactly whats going on. the age of aquarius is upon the world. the new agers are part of the process of change. 

 

the new agers believe it to be positive change

the old agers see their world as worth preserving

 

the common folk stuck in the middle

 

but i do wonder when the star prophesy will be announced

So you're callin' me old?

 

Get off my lawn!

 

[Noctua]

13 hours ago, AndyJ said:

I had my first confrontation regarding the bullshit going on in the supermarkets today. There are 3 supermarkets in my area and occasionally my wife has joined me shopping. We have joined the Nazi queuing, understanding we can go in together when two other people exit. Today, Tesco staff said they are no longer accepting two people from the same household into the store at the same time. I just couldn't resist telling the staff member that is a ridiculous policy because what difference does it make when you have a supermarket full of people whether or not there are two people from the same household in there? If everyone is observing the distancing "rules" what the hell is the difference? Just seems nonsensical to me. The weird thing was I categorically stated I wasn't blaming the staff, just expressing my view that the new policy is nonsense. But the staff member went full victim mode and started banging on about "We have families too". I don't know what relevance that had to me pointing out how stupid the new store policy was,  but there we go. I think this is the challenge to overcome when you know what's really going on, trying not to take all this crazy shit personally. I've got to try not to judge these people who just blindly follow the silly "rules" without questioning them but some days are easier to do that than others! 

 

I totally get your point, but the don't disregard or underestimate the people who just blindly follow the silly rules.  They are the people the dictators need to implement their plan.  I am sure the vast majority of the population of Germany, or North Korea, or Japan , or China at various points in history didn't think they were complicit in the horrendous acts against civil liberties.  They were just blindly following the silly rules.

 

 

12 hours ago, KillBill said:

 

 

 

Aaah, it's a good thing that virus can't get in through the nose.

 

Also - that was a quick marketing turnaround!  Getting that slogan and image on a mask within days!  Impressive.

[Noctua]

Have any of the governments actually read the back of a box of masks??

 

[Tinfoil Hat]

35 minutes ago, Noctua said:

Have any of the governments actually read the back of a box of masks??

 

 

And if they offer no protection, what benefit does anyone think the various crocheted varieties, home-made sock masks and sanitary towels we've seen adorning peoples' faces are going to give? It's just an avalanche of insanity. 

[rideforever]

10 hours ago, zarkov said:

To passively accept the artificial limitations imposed upon us denies the purpose of life. Each perspective is genuine and valid. Mine, as is Yours.

 

Well ... like I said the animals of this world kill and eat each other all the time ... we do as well.  So it is an inherently violent place.  In fact Earth is a kind of energy system, the plants convert one kind of energy, animals another, and we eat them all and also convert energy  - we need energy to live.

People who talk of being peaceful ... it's mostly bullshit ... because you are protected and appreciate the protection of your ancestors that have created this society - living in the wild is not very easy and the animals will kill you - they aren't like household pets you know.  They don't care, they are just hungry and they have claws and teeth.

So living in a protected place we can forget.

But ... maybe peace-talking-people are feeling something of a higher ilk ... but we are in a mixed world here, we must keep our own claws sharp whilst aiming higher.

Is there corruption, absolutely but that corruption needs to be continuously struggled against in society.  Just like in our own lives when we are lazy or ignorant in our own lives and we have to find a way of straightening the line so we can get the job done.  Lots of work to do.  Rest when you are dead.
And yes there is time to be peaceful, but we are enjoying that peace inside a  protected area and we must honour that and contribute.
Of course there is corruption, and a large part of it is the continuous delusion that life is going to be just fine without Government - that is actually an attack on reality ... just as corrupt as those at the top that wish to take more than their share.

 

[KillBill]

No coronavirus deaths anymore in NY

 

 

[theo102]

1 hour ago, Noctua said:

Have any of the governments actually read the back of a box of masks??

 

Their value is in reducing the transmission rate when people who are infected wear them.

 

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[Noctua]

35 minutes ago, theo102 said:

Their value is in reducing the transmission rate when people who are infected wear them.

 

 

But that makes no sense.  A virus doesn't just travel one way.  If it is of no use protecting the wearer from outside air, how can it stop other people from the air the carrier breathes?

[theo102]

46 minutes ago, Noctua said:

 

But that makes no sense.  A virus doesn't just travel one way.  If it is of no use protecting the wearer from outside air, how can it stop other people from the air the carrier breathes?

 

Because people can contract the virus through their eyes.

 

[theo102]

Researchers Retract Botched Anti- Hydroxychloroquine Study Which Was Used To Attack Trump

 

An influential study which found anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine raised the risk of cardiac issues has been retracted by its three authors.

 

The study, published on May 22 in the UK's prestegious Lancet medical journal, relied on bogus data from a company called Surgisphere, which would not transfer the full dataset for an independent review, and "can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources."

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/researchers-retract-botched-anti-hcq-study-which-caused-who-halt-trials

[mrbookrah]

51 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

 

Like oxygen.... and other chemicals... What other chemicals?

I want a stupidity sensor-do they have any left? 

[zarkov]

2 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

Well ... like I said the animals of this world kill and eat each other all the time ... we do as well.  So it is an inherently violent place.  In fact Earth is a kind of energy system, the plants convert one kind of energy, animals another, and we eat them all and also convert energy  - we need energy to live.

People who talk of being peaceful ... it's mostly bullshit ... because you are protected and appreciate the protection of your ancestors that have created this society - living in the wild is not very easy and the animals will kill you - they aren't like household pets you know.  They don't care, they are just hungry and they have claws and teeth.

So living in a protected place we can forget.

But ... maybe peace-talking-people are feeling something of a higher ilk ... but we are in a mixed world here, we must keep our own claws sharp whilst aiming higher.

Is there corruption, absolutely but that corruption needs to be continuously struggled against in society.  Just like in our own lives when we are lazy or ignorant in our own lives and we have to find a way of straightening the line so we can get the job done.  Lots of work to do.  Rest when you are dead.
And yes there is time to be peaceful, but we are enjoying that peace inside a  protected area and we must honour that and contribute.
Of course there is corruption, and a large part of it is the continuous delusion that life is going to be just fine without Government - that is actually an attack on reality ... just as corrupt as those at the top that wish to take more than their share.

 

 

I think everyone here comprehends the nature of this reality, the struggle for life  and,  that war is being levelled against us through the vessel of government. Government is the vessel for corruption. The practical considerations of Government could be fulfilled without their involvement. If so it might then be labelled as something else. Government is a state of mind;   The art of war (Sun Tzu)  exemplifies the practical enactments that have and are being directed at us in myriad of forms. Government  therefore is war.

It is no delusion that life would be fine without war!  War is antithetical to life. Ergo - Government is antithetical to life.

[chocomel]

6 hours ago, Noctua said:

Have any of the governments actually read the back of a box of masks??

 

 

That's why the government is recommending not to wear a medical mask. Make sense? lol

[rideforever]

1 hour ago, zarkov said:

Government  therefore is war.

It is no delusion that life would be fine without war!  War is antithetical to life. Ergo - Government is antithetical to life.

 

Well ... I know all about Government problems ... so I am just presenting the other side of the case, it's not that I don't think there is a problem.
Government is simply another name for a collective organisation to organise this group of people - that's what it means and that's all.
(Is there corruption stupidity and idiocy - absolutely.)

This is interesting is war antithetical to life ?
This is a very interesting question.
Is death antithetical to life ... because we all die ... so it seems that being alive is antithetical to life ... how can a life where you die be ... er ... pro-life ?
Well ... therein lies a story.

How about this ... when da Vinci was young he drew all sorts of shit on crappy paper and threw it in the bin.  And over time that helped him to become the kind of artist who never needs to throw anything in the bin because it's all awesome.  ... this is an anlogy.

You know it's good to have an 'ology' ... so here's another one.
If you want to make a steel suspension bridge across da River, it is often necessary to build a kind of wooden bridge first as a sort of temporary scaffold, supports etc... ontop of which you build the big one.  Then you throw away the wooden one.
The wooden one is nothing compared to the steel one ... but it's necessary and whats more if you don't build the wooden one well ... then you screw up the steel one.  So each stage needs to be respected.
Of course you can say that you only want the steel one which is the best and refuse to build the wooden one ... but then you have to swim.


 

[chocomel]

1 hour ago, zarkov said:

 

I think everyone here comprehends the nature of this reality, the struggle for life  and,  that war is being levelled against us through the vessel of government. Government is the vessel for corruption. The practical considerations of Government could be fulfilled without their involvement. If so it might then be labelled as something else. Government is a state of mind;   The art of war (Sun Tzu)  exemplifies the practical enactments that have and are being directed at us in myriad of forms. Government  therefore is war.

It is no delusion that life would be fine without war!  War is antithetical to life. Ergo - Government is antithetical to life.

 

But as long as you live in the 3D duality there will be wars of varying degrees.

Wherever there is two people e.g. at home, neighbourhood, in an office, difference of opinion exists. Granted that we don't use a machine guns and bombs at home but it is like war nonetheless.

 

The point is how we can ride the tide masterfully like a cool seasoned surfer.

[chocomel]

17 hours ago, zarkov said:

 

 

Ijust want a light sabre to go with my shopping trolley that flashes green then amber and red to confuse the covidista .

 

I have a feeling 2020 will be the year ComicCon fans will finally feel at home dressed up to go shopping on the high streets. Who would have thought this would be possible!

On the other hand, those Romanian Yoda will go out of business because there will be too many Yoda on the streets!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3131086/Yoda-Wars-break-Trafalgar-Square-Romanian-street-performers-dressed-Star-Wars-character-battle-best-spots.html

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[SuperstarNeilC]

7 hours ago, Noctua said:

Have any of the governments actually read the back of a box of masks??

 

Why you shouldn’t wear a face mask if you’re healthy 

 

[chocomel]

45 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

 

 

When he zoomed in on the Corona beer bottle I thought nah....until X-file music came on... Then the virus image.

Well spotted!

 

I think Corona beer has been doing well this year. Everyone is buying in case load. I guess there is no bad publicity. *facepalm*

[zarkov]

2 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

Well ... I know all about Government problems ... so I am just presenting the other side of the case, it's not that I don't think there is a problem.
Government is simply another name for a collective organisation to organise this group of people - that's what it means and that's all.
(Is there corruption stupidity and idiocy - absolutely.)

This is interesting is war antithetical to life ?
This is a very interesting question.
Is death antithetical to life ... because we all die ... so it seems that being alive is antithetical to life ... how can a life where you die be ... er ... pro-life ?
Well ... therein lies a story.

How about this ... when da Vinci was young he drew all sorts of shit on crappy paper and threw it in the bin.  And over time that helped him to become the kind of artist who never needs to throw anything in the bin because it's all awesome.  ... this is an anlogy.

You know it's good to have an 'ology' ... so here's another one.
If you want to make a steel suspension bridge across da River, it is often necessary to build a kind of wooden bridge first as a sort of temporary scaffold, supports etc... ontop of which you build the big one.  Then you throw away the wooden one.
The wooden one is nothing compared to the steel one ... but it's necessary and whats more if you don't build the wooden one well ... then you screw up the steel one.  So each stage needs to be respected.
Of course you can say that you only want the steel one which is the best and refuse to build the wooden one ... but then you have to swim.


 

 

In simpler terms then are you saying that this is all necessary for our development, part of the process of learning at many different levels and ultimately cannot be changed or altered -that we have to learn to flow like water around these obstacles because they will always be there in some form or another? that this is the crucible of our formant? to attain the grace that we need to proceed?

& If as Chocomel states "The point is how we can ride the tide masterfully like a cool seasoned surfer."

Then I agree, and would add that my idealism comes partly from frustration - I have seen that people have to experience the negative first before the positive can be comprehended.

If this is the case then where is the delusion is presenting the polemic of libertarianism in the face of fascism? even if it is in 3d - it is another aspect - a valid one at that! 

 

[peter]

The funniest thing I saw today ,we went for a walk down the coast along a path that follows a river, which was more than a hundred mt across, around the corner comes this fellow paddling  a kayak in the middle of the river with a mask on , I just burst out laughing, I was told in no uncertain terms by the misses to shut up and don't say anything

[rideforever]

@zarkov
There is a "system" that is run by the universe that causes very gradual progression ... and I mean gradual.  So all these lunatics here are progressing but so slow that you should really want anything to speed it up, which means learning how to self develop and there is lot on many levels; physical, emotional, energetic, of consciousness, psychological.  Anyway most people just get slapped around a bit then die, and will do so 1000 more times before anything happens.  That is a lot of pain.
Question is what is the absolute maximum you can harvest form any situation.  Somebody attacks you.  What do you do?
Grovel, run, smokescreen ... hide, kiss ass, kill, negotiate ?  Well which of those can actually expedite  and not just in your imagination?  Which of those is worth training more?
Reason it out.
Because there are so many things to improve and you really don't want to come back to this place if you can help ... best is to take proper instruction with no bullshit, if you can find it.  And improve many things at once.
One way is like Seneca (Greek) he reasons everything.  It's good, rational.  But what about your feelings ... you are dead are you.  What about physical force because it all begins in the body.  And so on.

People always try to do everything with their mind, but truth be told your body (or your dynamic physical power), your psychology ... is just as important and needs much work.

Most humans do very little at all ... it all showers onto them good and bad they drift through die, and at best come back 1000 times.

 

Okay ... so we can all imagine world peace because part of us is more conscious ... but just a part.   Get that, it is just a part.  At best it can guide us, but don't be fooled and think it's time to set up shop, that's like slowing down when you are on the final straight - big mistake.  In fact you should look to overshoot the finish line by at least 20%.
If you are honest you know there are beasts in side, and deeper down maybe the beasts are quite frightening and will take a lot of taming.
That is your real world, that most people don't know.
And that's your job - no escape from what you are.
Wherever you go ... all that comes with you > and causes the universe to reflect it.
That's my view.
> start a new thread if more's to come
 

Edited June 5, 2020 by rideforever