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3 minutes ago, banjo dog said:

 Left school in 1976, first job was in a small engineering firm. I remember Swarfega, bright green it was, brilliant stuff. I also remember how we would not take being dictated to by any one, not to this extent. I am sure we were made of tougher stuff back then, had minds of our own and not afraid to speak out. I am not saying we should go back to the way things were then. Rubbish piling up in the streets because the bin men were on strike. Power cuts due to electricians being on strike at the power stations. Dont think we would have taken all this covid bull shit then.

Remember the firemen's strike? We had the army stationed nearby with their Green Goddesses. The locals would go out and take the squaddies tea and cakes. I remember the three-day week. I was in my first year at college and the heat was hardly ever on. We rigged up a propane stove and a couple of Tilly lamps to stay warm and to heat food which was mostly beans or tomato soup. And you're right. We would have taken to the streets in force if they'd tried this shit back then.

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Just now, Mr H said:

 

I do hear this a lot, that people were more mentally robust in the olden days. This implies that the younger people today are not. But the older people gave birth too and brought up this younger generation. So what happened here? Why didn't the mental toughness or resilience get taught to the children?

The mental toughness and resilience has gone from a lot of people my age, not just the young. People of all ages seem more docile and unable to think for them selves. if it's due to crap being sprayed on crops, chem trails, fluoride in water and a load more chemicals dumbing us down, I have no idea why it has worked so well on so many. I am not claiming to be more intelligent than others, far from it. Human society has changed and not always for the betterment of society. This is a subject that can be debated for many hours and is going off topic. Many apologies.

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5 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

I do hear this a lot, that people were more mentally robust in the olden days. This implies that the younger people today are not. But the older people gave birth too and brought up this younger generation. So what happened here? Why didn't the mental toughness or resilience get taught to the children?

Good question. I did not endure the privations my parents suffered in WWII, and they didn't suffer the privations of their parents in WWI. So no, I am nowhere near as tough as my granddad was mentally or physically. But my parents always said they wanted us to have a better life than they did, and, to a large extent, they succeeded. They did not spoil us but we had more than they ever did when they were kids. And so it goes.

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Just now, banjo dog said:

The mental toughness and resilience has gone from a lot of people my age, not just the young. People of all ages seem more docile and unable to think for them selves. if it's due to crap being sprayed on crops, chem trails, fluoride in water and a load more chemicals dumbing us down, I have no idea why it has worked so well on so many. I am not claiming to be more intelligent than others, far from it. Human society has changed and not always for the betterment of society. This is a subject that can be debated for many hours and is going off topic. Many apologies.

This too. Good points.

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12 minutes ago, Noctua said:

Shops are going to be mental tomorrow.  From what I have read, summer exams are also unlikely to go ahead.  That's two years in a row that kids will be graded either on mock exams or their teacher's opinion of them.

 

 A re-run of panic buying of toilet rolls again?

 

 

 

 

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One thing I noticed last time is that all the people with warehouse jobs, supermarket jobs etc we’re proud to be key workers. I think their pride could be wearing off now!  I don’t think anyone is going to comply with this. Except for the very fearful few.  It’s our job to wind them up. 

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It seems to me the situation we have is the majority of people believe what I would call a global religion. That includes politicians. I suspect that, yes, there are new strains of flu but my actual position is people are acting through the influence of mass, group hysteria. I imagine the number of people exploiting the hysteria is much smaller. That is, I think we have a kind of mass, social breakdown. Very similar to the 15th century witch mania.
What really worries me I think is the how and why. For the last decade I've suspected something was going very wrong in society. Definite slides in democratic values. Lies over Iraq. Lack of accountability in politics. A slump in education. Dependence upon social media and a seeming alienation from science. Put simple, regression. Point is, if society loses respect for law and social rights, slides in education - we wind up like Russia in 1905. I mean, how many journalists are out there challenging the accepted narrative?
Course of action? Well, for sure current policy can't deliver in the long term. I imagine reality will eventually bite. In fact, there's a lesson from history. When Lenin came to power in 1917, he tried to choke capitalism by preventing commerce and trade. It was textbook Marx but it didn't work. The country started to collapse. Lenin had to backtrack. I suppose in our latter day case, these extremist policies will fail to sustain a functional system. And possibly some countries will abandon the currrent course.

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Watching a film on dvd based on a true story. A group of USSR gulag prisoners escape from a Siberian camp. They go during a full blizzard so the guards can't see them. Straight through the woods and onwards by foot to Mongolia. Point? There were some tough people back then. Real endurance. Also the film Alive is an eye opener. That's when the Uruguayan airplane crashes in the Andes. Survivors had to battle extreme cold and hunger.

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Yeah I read the long walk, sounds very similar. I also enjoyed reading 27 hours (not seen film) and one of my fave books of all time, into the wild - my fave quote being

 

"“So many people live within unhappy circumstances and yet will not take the initiative to change their situation because they are conditioned to a life of security, conformity, and conservatism, all of which may appear to give one peace of mind, but in reality nothing is more damaging to the adventurous spirit within a man than a secure future. The very basic core of a man's living spirit is his passion for adventure. The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.”
 Christopher McCandless

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25 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

It may come to that. Seriously. I can't see them even relinquishing control unless it is by force.

 

They need majority compliance. Honestly the further into this we get I am becoming more and more optimistic. The whole thing is just a farce now, their own incompetence will ruin them. Many many people are sick of this, but the "sheep" are hanging on to the idea they will vaccinate granny and normal life will resume. Once they can no longer believe in that slowly but surely the penny will finally begin to drop.

 

We have to be patient, the pushback will come once people are ready. Unfortunately things may get quite a bit worse before that point but massive cracks are beginning to show in this charade. We need to stop being scared and start laughing at them. These "elites" are nothing but a bunch of clowns.

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30 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

They need majority compliance. Honestly the further into this we get I am becoming more and more optimistic. The whole thing is just a farce now, their own incompetence will ruin them. Many many people are sick of this, but the "sheep" are hanging on to the idea they will vaccinate granny and normal life will resume. Once they can no longer believe in that slowly but surely the penny will finally begin to drop.

 

We have to be patient, the pushback will come once people are ready. Unfortunately things may get quite a bit worse before that point but massive cracks are beginning to show in this charade. We need to stop being scared and start laughing at them. These "elites" are nothing but a bunch of clowns.

 

I like your optimistic view illmatic, I agree we must be patient, we'll know when the time is right for the pushback. God WILL send us the signs.

 

The two witnesses are not who we think they are, it is us.

 

 

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Shining-one said, above:

 

For the last decade I've suspected something was going very wrong in society.”

 

I felt the same. I could never get happy. Even though things were going superficially well in my life, I always had this niggling feeling that everything was about to come crashing down. Not particularly on a personal level, but in wider society.

 

Even though things seemed fine on the surface, and Britain was feted as the 5th largest economy, it all felt hollow, like the veneer was bright and shiny but sewer rats had surreptitiously gnawed out the innards. 

 

People would walk around with big smiles on their faces, entranced by bells and baubles, not realising that Sigourney Weaver’s Alien was incubating in their stomach’s.

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Firefighter documents his Moderna vaccine symptoms...

the problem will come later on when he comes into contact with wild coronavirus when he is at risk of 'immune enhancement'...i'll take my chances with the flu mate

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

Watching a film on dvd based on a true story. A group of USSR gulag prisoners escape from a Siberian camp. They go during a full blizzard so the guards can't see them. Straight through the woods and onwards by foot to Mongolia. Point? There were some tough people back then. Real endurance. 

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On 12/31/2020 at 11:46 PM, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Another interesting assumption is that any civil or criminal actions launched against governments will ever go to trial. At least in my lifetime. In regular trials you have winners and losers, in matters of State-knows-best interests, well, the stalling tactics of footdragging until somewhere a few decades later we are ensnarled into some other convoluted scheme on a grand scale and we dont have the attention span to give it the consideration it ought to have had. Only now is the trial of the 911 plotters to be heard. Minimum 10 more years before that falls into the memory hole too.

 

Just a little more to think about when rubbing the lamp to summon the judicial remedy genie that will blow away the covid house of cards. Justice delayed is justice denied.

 

A corrupted system will, legally, never inflict anything more than superficial damage upon itself. This is exactly why Tony Blair ditched the House Of Lords, as the final arbiter on U.K justice issues, when he created a U.S. style Supreme Court. This doesn't mean that some folks won't score a few victories against the PTB, via the legal system, and it doesn't mean that they should stop trying either. However, extreme caution must be exercised, if what they are doing is going to cause a lot of PTB pain. Just as we recently witnessed, in my opinion, with the 'demise' of Brandy Vaughan, in a similar fashion to past 'demises'.

   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Eckert

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Jeane_Palfrey

 

On 1/1/2021 at 12:14 AM, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Anti-vaxxer is born of a notion that you have no right to informed consent when the interests of the many outweight the needs of the few. Eminent domain exercised on your person. In this instance for covid tomorrow perhaps for climate. The expression "anti-vaxxer" represents the death throws of consent at least in medical matters for now.

 

Yes, plus I think that this already pejorative term will further evolve in to something even more denigrating, like 'social harmer', in the future.

 

On 1/1/2021 at 12:37 AM, wingwang said:

My Nan and no doubt @oneantisworthtenofyou's Nan could see the wood for the trees. That's the point. Seeing through the shit and enjoying life.

 

My nan too.

 

On 1/1/2021 at 1:16 AM, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

How much do you think an apology like that is worth? Especially considering the absence of a justification. The apology seen as a rubber stamp.

 

Indeed. Both Ferguson's and Sturgeon's apologies seemed fake as hell and are worth sweet fukk all.

 

On 1/1/2021 at 2:58 AM, oddsnsods said:

I dont even know who this Richard Tice is, I posted the video thats been doing the rounds to prove a point. The guys exposing Handcock the blatant bullshit artist. That was my point & all I care about exposing the fraud. Theres no standby, only tyrants who are confident they wont be caught, because they know its all bollocks.

 

 

Dick 'En' Tice, aka The Assprentice, is Nigel's Farage's successor in waiting. He has parachuted on to us, from a great height, right out of MI5's stinky anus. He is our 'new man' and he will probably be teaming up with the Daily Masonical in due course. I do agree with you, whenever possible, about using such shills to our advantage though.    

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