Shining-one Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 It seems to me the situation we have is the majority of people believe what I would call a global religion. That includes politicians. I suspect that, yes, there are new strains of flu but my actual position is people are acting through the influence of mass, group hysteria. I imagine the number of people exploiting the hysteria is much smaller. That is, I think we have a kind of mass, social breakdown. Very similar to the 15th century witch mania. What really worries me I think is the how and why. For the last decade I've suspected something was going very wrong in society. Definite slides in democratic values. Lies over Iraq. Lack of accountability in politics. A slump in education. Dependence upon social media and a seeming alienation from science. Put simple, regression. Point is, if society loses respect for law and social rights, slides in education - we wind up like Russia in 1905. I mean, how many journalists are out there challenging the accepted narrative? Course of action? Well, for sure current policy can't deliver in the long term. I imagine reality will eventually bite. In fact, there's a lesson from history. When Lenin came to power in 1917, he tried to choke capitalism by preventing commerce and trade. It was textbook Marx but it didn't work. The country started to collapse. Lenin had to backtrack. I suppose in our latter day case, these extremist policies will fail to sustain a functional system. And possibly some countries will abandon the currrent course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, banjo dog said: And so to bed, dear friends. Be thankful that tomorrow is another day and we live to fight again. It may come to that. Seriously. I can't see them even relinquishing control unless it is by force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Quote "Will we need to be revaccinated every year or two with new vaccines?" Bring it on: the COVID-19 jab is safe so let's jump-start the Australian rollout https://www.smh.com.au/national/bring-it-on-the-covid-19-jab-is-safe-so-let-s-jump-start-the-australian-rollout-20210102-p56rc2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining-one Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Watching a film on dvd based on a true story. A group of USSR gulag prisoners escape from a Siberian camp. They go during a full blizzard so the guards can't see them. Straight through the woods and onwards by foot to Mongolia. Point? There were some tough people back then. Real endurance. Also the film Alive is an eye opener. That's when the Uruguayan airplane crashes in the Andes. Survivors had to battle extreme cold and hunger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Yeah I read the long walk, sounds very similar. I also enjoyed reading 27 hours (not seen film) and one of my fave books of all time, into the wild - my fave quote being "“So many people live within unhappy circumstances and yet will not take the initiative to change their situation because they are conditioned to a life of security, conformity, and conservatism, all of which may appear to give one peace of mind, but in reality nothing is more damaging to the adventurous spirit within a man than a secure future. The very basic core of a man's living spirit is his passion for adventure. The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.” ― Christopher McCandless 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: It may come to that. Seriously. I can't see them even relinquishing control unless it is by force. They need majority compliance. Honestly the further into this we get I am becoming more and more optimistic. The whole thing is just a farce now, their own incompetence will ruin them. Many many people are sick of this, but the "sheep" are hanging on to the idea they will vaccinate granny and normal life will resume. Once they can no longer believe in that slowly but surely the penny will finally begin to drop. We have to be patient, the pushback will come once people are ready. Unfortunately things may get quite a bit worse before that point but massive cracks are beginning to show in this charade. We need to stop being scared and start laughing at them. These "elites" are nothing but a bunch of clowns. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining-one Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Stalinism was pretty bad but provoked by a bloody world war and social instability. Under Stalin existed imaginary spies, capitalist sympathisers and Trotskyists. Enemies of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Boris lacks the charisma to pull it off. And Starmer even more so. Everyone votes for what they think of as the less of two evils. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Illmatic said: They need majority compliance. Honestly the further into this we get I am becoming more and more optimistic. The whole thing is just a farce now, their own incompetence will ruin them. Many many people are sick of this, but the "sheep" are hanging on to the idea they will vaccinate granny and normal life will resume. Once they can no longer believe in that slowly but surely the penny will finally begin to drop. We have to be patient, the pushback will come once people are ready. Unfortunately things may get quite a bit worse before that point but massive cracks are beginning to show in this charade. We need to stop being scared and start laughing at them. These "elites" are nothing but a bunch of clowns. I like your optimistic view illmatic, I agree we must be patient, we'll know when the time is right for the pushback. God WILL send us the signs. The two witnesses are not who we think they are, it is us. Edited January 4, 2021 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarNeilC Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Shining-one said, above: ”For the last decade I've suspected something was going very wrong in society.” I felt the same. I could never get happy. Even though things were going superficially well in my life, I always had this niggling feeling that everything was about to come crashing down. Not particularly on a personal level, but in wider society. Even though things seemed fine on the surface, and Britain was feted as the 5th largest economy, it all felt hollow, like the veneer was bright and shiny but sewer rats had surreptitiously gnawed out the innards. People would walk around with big smiles on their faces, entranced by bells and baubles, not realising that Sigourney Weaver’s Alien was incubating in their stomach’s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Firefighter documents his Moderna vaccine symptoms... the problem will come later on when he comes into contact with wild coronavirus when he is at risk of 'immune enhancement'...i'll take my chances with the flu mate Edited January 4, 2021 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkman Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Back in November they extended furlough until March. This was a time when this 'new varient' was yet to be discovered. Yet, lockdown is basically until 'mid February at the earliest' BECAUSE of this new varient. All scripted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarNeilC Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Shining-one said: Watching a film on dvd based on a true story. A group of USSR gulag prisoners escape from a Siberian camp. They go during a full blizzard so the guards can't see them. Straight through the woods and onwards by foot to Mongolia. Point? There were some tough people back then. Real endurance. Edited January 4, 2021 by SuperstarNeilC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) On 12/31/2020 at 11:46 PM, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Another interesting assumption is that any civil or criminal actions launched against governments will ever go to trial. At least in my lifetime. In regular trials you have winners and losers, in matters of State-knows-best interests, well, the stalling tactics of footdragging until somewhere a few decades later we are ensnarled into some other convoluted scheme on a grand scale and we dont have the attention span to give it the consideration it ought to have had. Only now is the trial of the 911 plotters to be heard. Minimum 10 more years before that falls into the memory hole too. Just a little more to think about when rubbing the lamp to summon the judicial remedy genie that will blow away the covid house of cards. Justice delayed is justice denied. A corrupted system will, legally, never inflict anything more than superficial damage upon itself. This is exactly why Tony Blair ditched the House Of Lords, as the final arbiter on U.K justice issues, when he created a U.S. style Supreme Court. This doesn't mean that some folks won't score a few victories against the PTB, via the legal system, and it doesn't mean that they should stop trying either. However, extreme caution must be exercised, if what they are doing is going to cause a lot of PTB pain. Just as we recently witnessed, in my opinion, with the 'demise' of Brandy Vaughan, in a similar fashion to past 'demises'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Eckert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Jeane_Palfrey On 1/1/2021 at 12:14 AM, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Anti-vaxxer is born of a notion that you have no right to informed consent when the interests of the many outweight the needs of the few. Eminent domain exercised on your person. In this instance for covid tomorrow perhaps for climate. The expression "anti-vaxxer" represents the death throws of consent at least in medical matters for now. Yes, plus I think that this already pejorative term will further evolve in to something even more denigrating, like 'social harmer', in the future. On 1/1/2021 at 12:37 AM, wingwang said: My Nan and no doubt @oneantisworthtenofyou's Nan could see the wood for the trees. That's the point. Seeing through the shit and enjoying life. My nan too. On 1/1/2021 at 1:16 AM, Avoiceinthecrowd said: How much do you think an apology like that is worth? Especially considering the absence of a justification. The apology seen as a rubber stamp. Indeed. Both Ferguson's and Sturgeon's apologies seemed fake as hell and are worth sweet fukk all. On 1/1/2021 at 2:58 AM, oddsnsods said: I dont even know who this Richard Tice is, I posted the video thats been doing the rounds to prove a point. The guys exposing Handcock the blatant bullshit artist. That was my point & all I care about exposing the fraud. Theres no standby, only tyrants who are confident they wont be caught, because they know its all bollocks. Dick 'En' Tice, aka The Assprentice, is Nigel's Farage's successor in waiting. He has parachuted on to us, from a great height, right out of MI5's stinky anus. He is our 'new man' and he will probably be teaming up with the Daily Masonical in due course. I do agree with you, whenever possible, about using such shills to our advantage though. Edited January 5, 2021 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, Liberty said: Boris lacks the charisma to pull it off. And Starmer even more so. Everyone votes for what they think of as the less of two evils. Not quite the same is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarNeilC Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 That film “Gulag” is based on the book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- TZC - Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Serious question after reading the drink talk, do you think maybe the next group to suffer and be absorbed by the covid cult will be alcoholics? If availability is stifled due to the fact you shouldn't drink while taking a vaccine, and the vaccine is God - everyone needs to follow God - lets say a maximum purchase of one bottle of wine or a 4 pack a week - spirits banned?? Or even, details taken on purchase to monitor what you've had from where - how many extra deaths from withdrawl (COUGH - COVID) could that gather for the dreaded virus? Everything that dealt with anything BUT covid is already shut down. I feel for those suffering cancer or will be due to no testing. Knocking off a few alkies under the guise of public concern would be a nice little bonus wouldn't it. And most people would say fuckem, if they even thought about it or it was brought to their attention.. dirty addicts. there's plenty worse to worry about for individuals without a need for alcohol, to put before consideration for strangers, they're making sure of it. Well, I seem to be starting to think more and more like THEM. We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Storm Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, banjo dog said: The mental toughness and resilience has gone from a lot of people my age, not just the young. People of all ages seem more docile and unable to think for them selves. if it's due to crap being sprayed on crops, chem trails, fluoride in water and a load more chemicals dumbing us down, I have no idea why it has worked so well on so many. I am not claiming to be more intelligent than others, far from it. Human society has changed and not always for the betterment of society. This is a subject that can be debated for many hours and is going off topic. Many apologies. I think there is something genetic going on - probably mainly a result of industrialisation and now post-industrial economies/de-industrialisation and Nanny State politics. I don't know how much intent/agency is behind it, but these developments are dysgenic without determined efforts to maintain high quality in the gene pool. I mentioned Owen Jones earlier, but even the toughest men I find nowadays normally have quite wet/wishy-washy views/outlooks and probably would struggle to hold their own among the average men of the past. It's a biological decline. Edited January 4, 2021 by Ergo Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Wot no masks? Edited January 4, 2021 by oddsnsods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeBuilder Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Orange Alert said: I have heard the Scots are careful with money, but not with time. 10 hours notice for a national lockdown is taking the slash with the people of Scotland on top of the lockdown itself. England will not be far behind Scotland, Boris is just waiting for his instructions to be faxed through. I'm speechless... You know, funny part is this. Quote Restaurants can continue to offer food delivery, but takeaway alcohol will be banned https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55538937 One must ask WHY? You are at home. You know why? Because they want to stop pubs from selling alcohol by delivery and to squeez last drop of their blood to make sure they are dead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Wot no masks? I reckon we should all go to Russia and live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, alexa said: I reckon we should all go to Russia and live. Met a Russian guy while travelling. He told me nobody gives a fuck, including Putin. He wanted to quickly release a vaccine just to appease the small numbers of people who actually want one. Sounds pretty good to me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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numnuts Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Orange Alert said: Boris to address the nation on the coronavius at 8pm GMT. More lockdown cometh. I already swore that it must have been a case of serious rabies Boris had back in April. He is now obviously suffering from long rabies. 4 hours ago, vinny79 said: What’s with that weird hand motion he does? I reckon it is to do with Boris trying to convince himself that his legendary bullshit is even remotely believable. 4 hours ago, Mr H said: He wants us all to stay inside our houses, 1 hr outside. He implied that at least till end of feb - but I doubt that very much. What a complete tool. Hmm, when he says 'at least until end of 'x'', then I suspect he means a lot longer than whatever 'x' happens to be. The funniest thing for me is to do with the fiasco over schools. So many folks can see that leaving schools open now, which the government wanted to do, doesn't fit with the wider narrative. Families spending more time together, as families, is the very last thing the government wanted to happen. Hoisted by their own petard though. Let's keep on exposing the 'London Underground can stay open' bullshit as well, which can only be defined as a 'super-spreader', then they will have to soon cave in on that anomaly too. They only want to leave it open, so that PTB foot soldiers can travel around more easily. Ha ha ha ha. 4 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: I don't see the point in having these "Downing Street Press Conferences" if the media have pretty much spelled out what is going to be said beforehand in their 'build-up'. t's almost like everything is running off a 'script'... This psyop is designed to lessen the anger directed at the government a bit, when the 'official' announcement finally comes. They have done this repeatedly over the course of this charade. 3 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: They're eating their own now. A Scottish MP (SNP) has been arrested for breaching 'Covid rules' in September of last year when she had the temerity to travel down to London without getting a test and attending a debate in the Commons. The utter insanity of this whole scam is encapsulated in this one story. I normally hold no brief for the political class but this poor cow is being railroaded. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/04/scottish-mp-margaret-ferrier-arrested-over-alleged-covid-rule-breach The PTB will always be willing to throw a few 'unaffiliated' souls to the wolves. They were in dire need of an M.P. scapegoat as well. 2 hours ago, Mr H said: I do hear this a lot, that people were more mentally robust in the olden days. This implies that the younger people today are not. But the older people gave birth too and brought up this younger generation. So what happened here? Why didn't the mental toughness or resilience get taught to the children? Busier lives, most women working and more financial pressures, usually equates to less time with the kids. Kids then slowly get more indoctrinated, via their schools, TV's and whatever. Loads more reasons too no doubt. Edited January 5, 2021 by numnuts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Storm Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Anybody? Or shall I do the honours this time? C....c...c....c....c..... Edited January 5, 2021 by Ergo Storm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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