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mike graham on talkradio just had some doctor on, who has a pretty mainstream view of disease, just throw in the towel and say "the virus has won, the new variant is too contagious, lockdowns are a waste of time, herd immunity will be reached before the vaccination immunity can be achieved, best just let everyone get on with it and protect the elderly"

 

a completely sane and rational conclusion for a myriad of insane data

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The Sun celebrates the rollout of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine with a picture of a syringe, labelled a 'jab-o-meter' that suggests six million doses will be given out by end of the month. The tabloid calls the vaccine a "dose of genius" that "gives hope not just to the people of this nation but to the world." All I see in the mainstream news is pictures of bare arms being jabbed, it smacks of desperation. Why would the introduction of a “miracle vaccine” coincide with a Fifth Tier? Surley the purpose of the vaccine is to be able to relax the rules, reduce the tiers and return to commerce?

 

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3 minutes ago, Velma said:

Surley the purpose of the vaccine is to be able to relax the rules, reduce the tiers and return to commerce?

erm no. they told everyone last month, the 'jab' is a part of the arsenal to fight the horrible disease. lockdowns, restrictions, bubbles, face cloths, social distancing will all remain in place.

this year is the year for UBI , debt forgiveness and the slavery contract... own nothing, not even your own body and be happy forever

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5 minutes ago, InBetweenWorlds said:

I have a question; right now my income is unemployment benefit. I hope I'm saying it right, English is not my first language. What rights do I have if the government would hold my income if I don't take the vaccine? 

 

well the dwp could say you willingly made yourself ineligible for benefits if employers require vaccination before offering you a job.  i wouldn't worry yet your probably way down the list of the to be vaccinated.

 

 

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1 minute ago, InBetweenWorlds said:

I have a question; right now my income is unemployment benefit. I hope I'm saying it right, English is not my first language. What rights do I have if the government would hold my income if I don't take the vaccine? 

 

You have the Nuremberg code, not that will help as we would be full totalitarian, which we pretty much are now.

Maybe they will choose to keep the illusion going.
So would not be mandatory like that, but rely on corporations to starve us by refusing entry or employment.

 

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Reply is back @Basket Casecheers.

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2 hours ago, Noctua said:

Let's take a big, long moment to think about this.  The media should be holding the government to account for these stats, and not endlessly churning out graphs.

 

Covid pandemic drives 163% rise in restaurant job losses in UK in 2020

Data also reveals that branch closures by hospitality firms increased by more than 75%

 

UK restaurants and casual dining firms recorded almost 30,000 job losses in 2020 as the Covid-19 pandemic drove a 163% jump in redundancies.

 

As a result of the tier adjustments that came into effect in England on New Year’s Eve, 22,082 restaurants are in tier 4 and are all closed except for takeaway, and 4,946 are in tier 3. Only five restaurants in the Isles of Scilly remain open for diners, according to the real estate adviser Altus Group.

 


Yep and then you have all the suppliers , drinks wholesalers etc. Redundancy back in September and the vast amount of my experience and contacts involves trade sales to the U.K. On-trade (pubs, restaurants etc) . Personally , I have very little chance of getting back into this industry for the foreseeable. Indeed , there is currently no industry of note. 

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Happy (sic) New Year everyone...

 

Had Christmas "off" so just returning to the forum and apologies if someone has already posted this...

 

See the link below... of Course, with Mr Gates involved, you'd expect nothing less -it involves an operating system and licenses that he can sell over and over.... something he's got quite good at over the years...

http://tapnewswire.com/2021/01/moderna-admits-here-that-what-they-inject-now-is-an-operating-system/

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We have already had curfews for pubs and restaurants. What's next a proper police state curfew thrown into the mix with people fleeing home before 10pm, like in parts of Europe?  From The Daily BS Express -

 

Boris Johnson considers national curfew as 'no question' tougher measures coming

DOWNING STREET has refused to rule out introducing a nation-wide curfew in a desperate bid to curb rising coronavirus infections.

PUBLISHED: 12:52, Mon, Jan 4, 2021 | UPDATED: 13:31, Mon, Jan 4, 2021
 

This morning the Prime Minister said there was "no question" stricter rules will be introduced "in due course" to help suppress new cases of the virus. Boris Johnson held a meeting of his "Covid-O" committee this morning to look at the latest data and consider what steps are needed to cut infections.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1379392/coronavirus-latest-update-uk-lockdown-curfew-new-national-tier-restrictions-boris-johnson

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25 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

UK flag replaced with UN flag, is this confirmation of our takeover? 

 

 

 

Could it be due to this?

 

3/01/2021

Brian Urquhart, early leader of United Nations, dies at 101

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FILE - In this Nov. 17, 1987 file photo, Sir Brian Urquhart, former under secretary-general of the United Nations, left, and former President Jimmy Carter confer during the opening session of a Middle East conference held at the Carter Center in Atlanta, Ga.
 
Urquhart, who played a central role in developing the U.N. practice of peacekeeping, died at his home in Tyringham, Mass., on Saturday, Jan. 2, 2021, according to his family, reported by the New York Times. He was 101. (AP Photo/Linda Schaefer)

TYRINGHAM, Mass. (AP) — British diplomat Brian Urquhart, an early leader of the United Nations who played a central role in developing the U.N. practice of peacekeeping, has died, according to his family. He was 101.

Urquhart’s son, Thomas, confirmed he died at his home in Tyringham, Massachusetts, on Saturday but didn’t provide a specific cause, the New York Times reported.

Urquhart, born in Bridport, England in 1919, served in British military and intelligence during World War II before becoming the second official hired by the U.N. after its formation in 1945. He went on to be a principal adviser to the first five U.N. secretary-generals.

Full article at https://apnews.com/article/massachusetts-world-war-ii-united-nations-2fbca81e86472f6f89840f95240e4235

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Scotland is taking away a fistful of prisoner privileges by locking down tonight. 

 

Scotland will be plunged into a new national lockdown from midnight TONIGHT: Nicola Sturgeon tells Scots they must stay at home for ALL of January by LAW as she warns of 'steeply rising' coronavirus case numbers

Published: 14:12, 4 January 2021 | Updated: 14:17, 4 January 2021

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9111161/Nicola-Sturgeon-announces-new-coronavirus-lockdown-Scotland.html

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Just now, Orange Alert said:

Scotland is taking away a fist full of prisoner privileges by locking down tonight. 

 

Scotland will be plunged into a new national lockdown from midnight TONIGHT: Nicola Sturgeon tells Scots they must stay at home for ALL of January by LAW as she warns of 'steeply rising' coronavirus case numbers

Published: 14:12, 4 January 2021 | Updated: 14:17, 4 January 2021

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9111161/Nicola-Sturgeon-announces-new-coronavirus-lockdown-Scotland.html

 

That woman is out of control.  

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4 hours ago, Noctua said:

Let's take a big, long moment to think about this.  The media should be holding the government to account for these stats, and not endlessly churning out graphs.

 

Covid pandemic drives 163% rise in restaurant job losses in UK in 2020

Data also reveals that branch closures by hospitality firms increased by more than 75%

 

UK restaurants and casual dining firms recorded almost 30,000 job losses in 2020 as the Covid-19 pandemic drove a 163% jump in redundancies.

 

As a result of the tier adjustments that came into effect in England on New Year’s Eve, 22,082 restaurants are in tier 4 and are all closed except for takeaway, and 4,946 are in tier 3. Only five restaurants in the Isles of Scilly remain open for diners, according to the real estate adviser Altus Group.

 

 

I seem to remember a physics teacher telling me very early on at school that percentages above 100 are mathematically nonsensical.  He wasn't quite strictly right about that - you can use percentages above 100, but I understand what he was getting at.  It's apt to mislead and can be innumerate and is often used for the purpose of misrepresenting something.

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5 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

That woman is out of control.  

 

I have heard the Scots are careful with money, but not with time.  😆   10 hours notice for a national lockdown is taking the slash with the people of Scotland on top of the lockdown itself.  England will not be far behind Scotland, Boris is just waiting for his instructions to be faxed through.

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Regarding the article above, it says 163% jump in redundancies.  I understand why it's expressed in this way, but to me this encourages innumeracy - especially when, as here, it's expressed confusingly in the article as both an increase on the n figure and also an increase of the n figure.  I think they mean the latter, so that the number of redundancies in 2020 is 163% of the 2019 total (i.e. a decimal factor of 1.63 of the total in 2019), but somebody could equally read it as a 163% increase on 2019, which is completely different.

 

For me, it would be mathematically clearer if it was expressed as a percentage increase with raw figures included, so that you could work it out for yourself to verify it.

 

For instance, if redundancies in Year 1 were 100,000 and in Year 2 were 150,000, this journalist would say that Year 2 has had a 150% rise/increase in redundancies, whereas I would say that is a 50% increase (i.e. 50,000/100,000x100).

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