Velma Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) SAGE claims the measures need to be applied with "a step change in rigour" - in other words, a lot more forcefully. So expect tier four-type bans on visiting other households to become normal. They suggest considering a return to the two-metre rule because it's more effective than the one-metre plus guidance adopted last year. Masks need to be made of three layers, not just one, and worn in more locations than now - including workplaces, schools and crowded outdoor spaces. That could be a hint that the government's current "hands, face, space" slogan may need to make way for something stronger. What like? FUCK RIGHT OFF! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55524764 Edited January 3, 2021 by Velma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, SuperstarNeilC said: I can see this law being proposed World Wide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeBuilder Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 11 hours ago, shadowmoon said: whatever happened to the covid sniffing dogs? Mr B, (if you are reading this) Here is my take on your recent, most logical questions. You asked, "whatever happened to test 'n' trace?" and other things we have 'forgotten' and no longer mentioned. It's like we have this attention of a 3-year old that today's news no matter how big it is, will be forgotten the next day. Proof: We are no longer bothered/talking about Andrew or Bashir....right? This is on purpose I suspect. A stage magician would call it sleight of hands. "While they are keeping us busy debating one thing or another, they are progressing with the real agenda." said a master mason. And you all know what that agenda is.... the Great Reset, an introduction of new currency. Once they achieve this, the madness, the pressure will be eased though I don't know if they will disappear. It will continue for awhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Storm Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Morpheus said: What? I'm not sure I follow. You ask why he is effeminate, I provide a logical explanation and this is your reply? Thinking about it, maybe you didn't want an answer I'm not necessarily contradicting you, rather I'm steering my own post away from a tangent and trying to get back to the point I was trying to make. I wasn't asking why he was effeminate. I was noting that he looks like a woman/girl. It's not merely that he is a man who has mock or genuine feminine traits or a feminine aura about him, it's more than that. He could actually be confused for a female. which I regard as something else. The fact he is homosexual is I agree probably related to it, but not all homosexuals are effeminate or look feminine, and heterosexual men can be effeminate. My real point, though, is there seems to be a lot of this, an explosion in homosexuality and gender fluidity and confusion, and also a degrading of masculinity, and I find it weird, I think it may have a genetic basis to it, and I think it partly explains or is one of the symptoms of the underlying hysteria and desire for medical safety. Edited January 3, 2021 by Ergo Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Macnamara said: no matter what shit biden and kamalla try and pull over there the american people MUST hold onto their guns! It's OK for the Americans because of their Second Amendment, but what can we do here in the UK ? We are all stuffed. The only thing we can do now is pray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 14 hours ago, shadowmoon said: whatever happened to the covid sniffing dogs? As of Dec 6, almost ready to be trotted out. Sniffer-dogs being trained to operate in Australian airports may be capable of detecting COVID-19 before a positive reading shows up in tests BEFORE - scary times ahead. "We've done it in training and our next step will be to deploy in airports with incoming international passengers,....they could be used without the other testing, they could be used for initial screening." https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7042913/sniffer-dogs-recruited-for-covid-defence/?cs=14231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, alexa said: It's OK for the Americans because of their Second Amendment, but what can we do here in the UK ? We are all stuffed. The only thing we can do now is pray. guns are a 'force multiplier' in that they make individuals more powerful We don't have that so instead we have to multiply the numbers of our force ie grow the numbers of people in the resistance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: As of Dec 6, almost ready to be trotted out. Sniffer-dogs being trained to operate in Australian airports may be capable of detecting COVID-19 before a positive reading shows up in tests BEFORE - scary times ahead. no doubt its possible to train a dog so that you can give it a cue that makes it then target a particular person. Even if that person had returned a negative test result the dogs action can still be used as an authoritative reason to then detain you, search you, question you and so on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 8 hours ago, SimonTV said: Not just one or two like when they report vax complications in non-jews but hundreds. Subliminally this tells us no to be to quick to judge them as they run around flaunting the health passports their affiliates were handing out like candy while the rest of us are rotting in our flats. They need to appear to be suffering like everyone else because they have a collective memory of eventually being blamed when plagues ravage societies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Not just one or two like when they report vax complications in non-jews but hundreds. they are not saying that they are vax complications. They are simply saying that they are testing positive for coronavirus even after receiving the first jab which suggests that the jab is not stopping infection Then It’s Not a Vaccine: Crazy Dr. Fauci Said in October Early COVID Vaccines Will Only Prevent Symptoms and NOT Block the Infection …What? By Jim Hoft Published January 1, 2021 at 9:09pm Crazy Dr. Fauci warned in October that early COVID-19 vaccines will only prevent symptoms from arising – not block infection. Then the early vaccines are NOT vaccines. That’s not how vaccines operate. What the hell is going on here? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/not-vaccine-crazy-dr-fauci-says-early-covid-vaccines-will-prevent-symptoms-not-block-infection/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Lane55 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 I live In Australia (not Victoria ) and the area where I live has been relatively "free" with only social distancing ,hand sanitising and people only wearing masks voluntarily .This all changed a few days ago when masks were made mandatory in shops ,supermarkets ,shopping centres ,hairdressers and public transport .I know the Uk has had this kind if thing for a while but it came in one way as a shock and in another way it wasnt . There is a $200 fine for not wearing one .Yesterdays newspapers are already talking of laws to allow employers to force workers to get the vaccine or lose their jobs . I have already made the decision not to go to the shops anymore ,my husband is saying just wear a mask why let it control you but by doing that I am letting it control me . I have adult children in their 30's who have never been vaccinated anyway and the thought of them having their health compromised by this vaccine or even losing their jobs if they refuse is very depressing . My observation is that many Australians are even more gullible that people in other countries ,finding people who agree with my point of view regarding this whole plandemic is very hard . How do people cope with the depressing realisation that there may not be enough people to stand up to this tyranny ? i can see why suicide rates will increase .I feel lucky that I have live most of my life already but i fear what is to come for my children and for other younger folk who will grow up thinking this madness is normal .Its very hard to stay positive .Watching UK Column news ,sites like Off Guardian and various You Tube channels give me some hope as does reading things in this forum .David Ickes latest video seemed both depressing and inspiring . How do others manage to keep up their spirits in these insane times ?. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeBuilder Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: oh great they can dance now.....what can possibly go wrong? Yeah the shortsighted (blind) police who are currently bullying the british public so that they can collect their own paycheque from the freemasonic crown whilst everyone elses businesses are destroyed will find themselves replaced by robots and AI so fast its going to make their heads spin They are short-sighted....like majority of masses are. You know I spoke to a religious person the other day and he said, "So what if they microchip you? We are already tracked by smartphone anyway." well true but he's not got a choice to leave it at home once it's in you and other implications which to follow but at that point, I decided to leave them. They are beyond help especially still believing that God or something is coming to help them. They'd have to do it all over again till they are ready to wake up. I think the destiny of peole have been decided by now. One goes this way, and the other opposite direction. And I see even within the truth community, some of them will not make it even though they've been fighting which is sad. They still have chance IF they decide to change their perception. But the programming is so insidious that you guys will be stuck in 4D and returning to hell if you can't access the 5D now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 SAGE adviser says 'Tier 5' may be needed to suppress Covid as he suggests UK has struggled to keep cases down because it is a 'western liberal democracy." Meaning, if we were an "eastern communist dictatorship" like China, we would have fared better at containing the people, err...I mean, cases. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9108113/Covid-UK-SAGE-adviser-says-Tier-5-needed-suppress-virus.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Macnamara said: they are not saying that they are vax complications. They are simply saying that they are testing positive for coronavirus even after receiving the first jab which suggests that the jab is not stopping infection A pcr test is not indicative of an infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeBuilder Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Ergo Storm said: Please, don't start that. You'll give them ideas and they'll be banning dogs next. Outlandish, I know, but I'm ready to believe anything now. I can see the woke headlines: "Top experts say that 10 million dogs will have to be put down in new Covid emergency" aw, maybe that's what they wanted to achieve. Everyone to accept whatever, how ridiculous it may be. Please centre yourself. Do no lose yourself. Believe in yourself. Where is your logic? They snatched that away from you? In time like this, where they are trying to distract and spin you around, you need to be in the eye of a storm. It can be a very lonely journey at times. David was more or less on his own to fight his ground for years. People thought it was ridiculous that he's talking about aliens, shape shifting reptilians and child abuse shit etc..... It belonged to a LaLa Land. Look what's happening now? Regardless of what people said about him, he didn't lose his focus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Then It’s Not a Vaccine: Crazy Dr. Fauci Said in October Early COVID Vaccines Will Only Prevent Symptoms and NOT Block the Infection …What? First coronavirus vaccines 'may not prevent infection', UK task force head warns Kate Bingham writes in The Lancet with warning that manufacturing capacity for vaccines is also ‘vastly inadequate’ Stuti Mishra@StuteeMishra Wednesday 28 October 2020 07:51 The chair of the UK’s vaccine task force said on Tuesday that the first generation of inoculations against Covid-19 vaccines "is likely to be imperfect" and that they "might not work for everyone". https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-vaccine-imperfect-infection-uk-task-force-b1389605.html Dr Fauci warns that early COVID-19 vaccines will only prevent symptoms from arising - not block infection Dr Anthony Fauci cautioned that early COVID-19 vaccines are aimed at preventing symptoms during Yahoo Finance's All Markets Summit on Monday 'If the vaccine allows you to prevent initial infection, that would be great,' he said. '[But] the primary endpoint [is] to prevent clinically recognizable disease' At least four vaccine candidates are currently in late-stage clinical trials Fauci has said he is cautiously optimistic that a vaccine will arrive by year end But he warned that early vaccines may only be 50 to 60 percent effective By Megan Sheets For Dailymail.com Published: 12:24, 27 October 2020 | Updated: 13:21, 27 October 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8884031/Dr-Fauci-warns-early-COVID-19-vaccines-prevent-symptoms-not-block-infection.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad the lad Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Freedom Lane55 said: I live In Australia (not Victoria ) and the area where I live has been relatively "free" with only social distancing ,hand sanitising and people only wearing masks voluntarily .This all changed a few days ago when masks were made mandatory in shops ,supermarkets ,shopping centres ,hairdressers and public transport .I know the Uk has had this kind if thing for a while but it came in one way as a shock and in another way it wasnt . There is a $200 fine for not wearing one .Yesterdays newspapers are already talking of laws to allow employers to force workers to get the vaccine or lose their jobs . I have already made the decision not to go to the shops anymore ,my husband is saying just wear a mask why let it control you but by doing that I am letting it control me . I have adult children in their 30's who have never been vaccinated anyway and the thought of them having their health compromised by this vaccine or even losing their jobs if they refuse is very depressing . My observation is that many Australians are even more gullible that people in other countries ,finding people who agree with my point of view regarding this whole plandemic is very hard . How do people cope with the depressing realisation that there may not be enough people to stand up to this tyranny ? i can see why suicide rates will increase .I feel lucky that I have live most of my life already but i fear what is to come for my children and for other younger folk who will grow up thinking this madness is normal .Its very hard to stay positive .Watching UK Column news ,sites like Off Guardian and various You Tube channels give me some hope as does reading things in this forum .David Ickes latest video seemed both depressing and inspiring . How do others manage to keep up their spirits in these insane times ?. First of all let me say hi from the UK. All we can ever do in life is our best. Try not to be too hard on yourself (I'm very guilty of this myself and therefore can sense this in your words). Our best is all we have to give. If you don't give enough then you will feel this in in your heart. If you give too much then it take it's toll on your body and mind. Your best is enough and is where you should try to sit. By not consenting to the 'act' (ie not wearing a mask) you are already living your truth and fearless. If the day comes when we can't work, buy or sell then we can only cross that problem when it arrives. Our hearts will guide us on that day. It's all an illusion of dark magic for me. Fear based lies and deception. You can choose to live in it or outside it. The choice is yours......Good luck. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeBuilder Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, skitzorat said: As of Dec 6, almost ready to be trotted out. Sniffer-dogs being trained to operate in Australian airports may be capable of detecting COVID-19 before a positive reading shows up in tests BEFORE - scary times ahead. Let's rewind and re-think about what it says above..... I interpret it as the dogs are now psychic or time-traveller? Could they pick lottery numbers if we give them balls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: A pcr test is not indicative of an infection. you and i know that but the branch covidians queuing up for the vaccines don't they believe in a killer virus so the question is would it shake their faith in their new covid religion to learn that the vaccine won't, even by the admission of the people pushing it onto the public, stop the transmission of the virus that their religion is founded upon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeBuilder Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, Macnamara said: they are not saying that they are vax complications. They are simply saying that they are testing positive for coronavirus even after receiving the first jab which suggests that the jab is not stopping infection Then It’s Not a Vaccine: Crazy Dr. Fauci Said in October Early COVID Vaccines Will Only Prevent Symptoms and NOT Block the Infection …What? By Jim Hoft Published January 1, 2021 at 9:09pm Crazy Dr. Fauci warned in October that early COVID-19 vaccines will only prevent symptoms from arising – not block infection. Then the early vaccines are NOT vaccines. That’s not how vaccines operate. What the hell is going on here? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/not-vaccine-crazy-dr-fauci-says-early-covid-vaccines-will-prevent-symptoms-not-block-infection/ Dr Killary says the same....so it must be right! Hence my previous post. What is the point of having the vaccine? I will only accept answers from pro-vaxxer. This is a question we must ask them and watch their face. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Macnamara said: First coronavirus vaccines 'may not prevent infection', UK task force head warns Kate Bingham writes in The Lancet https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-vaccine-imperfect-infection-uk-task-force-b1389605.html Dr Fauci warns that early COVID-19 vaccines will only prevent symptoms from arising - not block infection https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8884031/Dr-Fauci-warns-early-COVID-19-vaccines-prevent-symptoms-not-block-infection.html Coronavirus vaccine unlikely to stop infection, World Health Organisation says It’s being hailed as our only way out of the pandemic – but the WHO has warned a vaccine is unlikely to stop one of the biggest problems with coronavirus. Hannah Paine hannahpaine_ Speaking at a press conference, WHO’s chief scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan said there was yet to be any evidence that coronavirus vaccines were “going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on”. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-vaccine-unlikely-to-stop-infection-world-health-organisation-says/news-story/39574a779ba0e709a0945e620930afa2 Pfizer CEO admits he is 'not certain' their COVID-19 shot will prevent vaccinated people from spreading the virus - as the firm cuts the number of doses it will ship this year Asked in a Dateline interview whether Pfizer's shot prevents transmission, CEO Albert Bourla said the firm is 'not certain about that' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9018547/Pfizer-CEO-not-certain-covid-shot-prevents-transmission.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: branch covidians Whenever I see you writing this I cant help but actually read it as Branch Davidians and then think of the many Waco-scenarios that 2021 will inevitably gift us. SO thanks :) x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: First coronavirus vaccines 'may not prevent infection', UK task force head warns Kate Bingham writes in The Lancet https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-vaccine-imperfect-infection-uk-task-force-b1389605.html Dr Fauci warns that early COVID-19 vaccines will only prevent symptoms from arising - not block infection https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8884031/Dr-Fauci-warns-early-COVID-19-vaccines-prevent-symptoms-not-block-infection.html Coronavirus vaccine unlikely to stop infection, World Health Organisation says It’s being hailed as our only way out of the pandemic – but the WHO has warned a vaccine is unlikely to stop one of the biggest problems with coronavirus. Hannah Paine hannahpaine_ Speaking at a press conference, WHO’s chief scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan said there was yet to be any evidence that coronavirus vaccines were “going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on”. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-vaccine-unlikely-to-stop-infection-world-health-organisation-says/news-story/39574a779ba0e709a0945e620930afa2 Pfizer CEO admits he is 'not certain' their COVID-19 shot will prevent vaccinated people from spreading the virus - as the firm cuts the number of doses it will ship this year Asked in a Dateline interview whether Pfizer's shot prevents transmission, CEO Albert Bourla said the firm is 'not certain about that' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9018547/Pfizer-CEO-not-certain-covid-shot-prevents-transmission.html ITV GMB Doctor Hilary Jones issues warning on coronavirus vaccine after update A vaccine usually takes years, often decades, to develop By Lottie Gibbons 09:07, 28 OCT 2020 But Dr Hilary told viewers on Good Morning Britain that early vaccines may only prevent people from dying but not from infection. He said: "This is the worst pandemic for over 100 years, we're still there, we can't rely too heavily on a vaccine, we don't know whether that will be effective. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/itv-gmb-doctor-hilary-jones-19177815 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Coronavirus vaccine unlikely to stop infection of course they don't want to stop the alleged virus! if they fix the supposed problem they can't use it to justify more social engineering! The virus is the perfect excuse for tyrants to do anything they want. Why would they want that to end? Edited January 3, 2021 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeBuilder Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Macnamara said: you and i know that but the branch covidians queuing up for the vaccines don't they believe in a killer virus so the question is would it shake their faith in their new covid religion to learn that the vaccine won't, even by the admission of the people pushing it onto the public, stop the transmission of the virus that their religion is founded upon? Oh stop. lol 1) Thy shall vow to the covid-19, 6 times a day - one at 6am & 6pm is compulsory. 2) To receive Covid vaccine is akin to Catholics receiving the flesh 'n' blood of Jesus..... You know I think we should start a religion for them. @EnigmaticWorldis good at making a logo which includes 6s (like cern) in them, I'd say, include a syring as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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