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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I speculated about this before and got shot to pieces, so here I go again...

 

If this is all about a fake virus and fake pandemic, maybe the vaccines are fake as well?

 

Maybe further down the line there are some really noxious vaccines in store for us all. Perhaps this 'first wave' of vaccines are completely non-toxic and harmless, after all this is all about getting people used to the idea. Yes, there are reports of adverse reactions and people dying, but there could be any number of reasons for this, perhaps to fuel the 'anti-vax' conspiracies, but maybe not as a direct result of taking a 'placebo' vaccine, I really don't know.

 

When governments turn round and state that 'mixing' two unproven vaccines is "probably safe", that leads me to think that we have two vaccines that are nothing more than 'placebos', and under normal circumstances will do no harm to most people.

 

"Take the vaccine!" "Just get jabbed!"

 

At this stage, it would make no sense to me for people to be willingly injected with poison that will kill them.

 

Save all that bad stuff for a later date, once people have adjusted and acclimatised to having to have to 'have a jab' every year in order to 'keep them safe'.

 

Give it a couple of years, the 'pro-vaxxers' will be boldly stating "see you had nothing to worry about" whille the 'hesitant anti-vaxxers' will be made to look "a bit silly".

 

At that point, unleash the 'real deal' and any new deaths or 'adverse effects' can be brushed off as some 'new virus'.

 

For which we all need a 'new vaccine', which our world governments will pump ever more public money into developing.

 

Please note my use of the words "maybe" and "perhaps" before anyone decides to try and shoot me down again.

 

Yeah but you theory I find naive, as we are talking about parasitical psychopaths & plus they have to prove this vaccine will stop people getting tested positive.

Which is already clear it doesnt.

How do they put a halt on this casedemic then, suddenly stop testing?

Im calling your bluff of bluffs Grumps & state the second vaccine will take a heavy toll.

My evidence is swine flu vaccine.

These people dont play.

 

 

One thing I will agree, as these vaccines effects will not be instant, but MRNA vaccine will create immune disease & yes you will need regular jab&go's or you will be dead.

 

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11 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Yes and make no mistake, these nightingale hospitals that are sitting empty... Do I have to even explain?

 

They will use these as the concentration/extermination camps.  Why else would they be sitting empty?  Why spend millions building them.  Why have they never been used?   Why have they moved all equipment, partitions, ventilators, everything out of them huh.  Why are they there sitting empty doing nothing?? The globalists are not stupid.

 

 

I thought they were dismantling them 😕

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BBC backtracking on their fakenews.

 

'Simply untrue': London children's hospital consultant blasts 'irresponsible' nurse who gave BBC radio interview claiming she saw 'a whole ward of children' with coronavirus

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9106509/Coronavirus-London-childrens-hospital-consultant-says-wards-NOT-youngsters-Covid.html

 

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I agree that control is always the name of the game. What you stick people with can be controlled down to the hair on a nats bollocks. The body will be thrown into a total inbalance and over time the people that are not already in homeostasis will suffer the most. This is the ones they are touting for the most (the old and vuneralble).

The jab is the trigger on the gun and not the bullet.

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9 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

I'd just been reading this article. I feel like they are openly taking the piss.

 

The other week they were setting up the spectre of a new, more easily transmissible strain just in time to cock Christmas up... and despite resolving to finally leave my brother and mum to their fear driven yearning for vaccination, when they relayed that the existing vaccines will protect against both strains, I just couldn't help pointing out, "Well then now you KNOW they're lying!" (to no avail).

 

Now it's just any old cocktail of shite administered on any old timescale between doses.

 

They are laughing at our gullibility.

 

I really just cannot believe this. It's crazy.

 

Even phizer are saying it's not effective after 21 days, and the government want to miss and match with another vaccine. You just can't make this shit up.

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33 minutes ago, Brad the lad said:

 

 

Don't forget that if all that fails they have the trump card (pun intended).......Mask shortages!

 

Can you imagine the panic? It will make the bog roll rush look like childs play.

 

LOL -  they would go nuts,  if it is possible to enter into a more disillusioned state of mind than they are presently.

At least the supermarkets might be empty of people but then again they might be empty.

 

 

57 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

There are so many possibilities though with the duplicitous cowards running the show.

 

The current vaccine may protect against a disease to be released at a later date for the purpose of wiping out all the dissidents who refused the vaccine.

 

It isn't possible to know what they've got up their sleeves, so even the knowledge that evil lies and manipulation are taking place on a global scale does not really give us much advantage over the brainwashed. 

I think they would like that but I am not sure they are clever enough for it. (biologically)  

Chemically or EM imho, but I do agree that if they could they definitely would.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I speculated about this before and got shot to pieces, so here I go again...

 

If this is all about a fake virus and fake pandemic, maybe the vaccines are fake as well?

 

Maybe further down the line there are some really noxious vaccines in store for us all. Perhaps this 'first wave' of vaccines are completely non-toxic and harmless, after all this is all about getting people used to the idea. Yes, there are reports of adverse reactions and people dying, but there could be any number of reasons for this, perhaps to fuel the 'anti-vax' conspiracies, but maybe not as a direct result of taking a 'placebo' vaccine, I really don't know.

 

When governments turn round and state that 'mixing' two unproven vaccines is "probably safe", that leads me to think that we have two vaccines that are nothing more than 'placebos', and under normal circumstances will do no harm to most people.

 

"Take the vaccine!" "Just get jabbed!"

 

At this stage, it would make no sense to me for people to be willingly injected with poison that will kill them.

 

Save all that bad stuff for a later date, once people have adjusted and acclimatised to having to have to 'have a jab' every year in order to 'keep them safe'.

 

Give it a couple of years, the 'pro-vaxxers' will be boldly stating "see you had nothing to worry about" whille the 'hesitant anti-vaxxers' will be made to look "a bit silly".

 

At that point, unleash the 'real deal' and any new deaths or 'adverse effects' can be brushed off as some 'new virus'.

 

For which we all need a 'new vaccine', which our world governments will pump ever more public money into developing.

 

Please note my use of the words "maybe" and "perhaps" before anyone decides to try and shoot me down again.

 

I am not convinced that the controllers want sufficient numbers of people to have the vaccines - at least not yet. I think the primary goal is to destroy all the small businesses and create complete economic dependence first. Then they really have the leverage they need for mass vaccination programmes and other bio-technology.

 

I think they are being far too open about the rush to develop the vaccine and adverse reactions. They are also making themselves look desperate with pitiful performaces from Matt Hancock and obvious set ups in who was administered the vaccine first. It has also been made clear that having the vaccines won't mean that social distancing and masks etc will end therefore making the jab pointless. And there is now the UK government's departure from recommendations that the different types of vaccines should not be mixed.

 

If insufficient numbers of people have the vaccination, this gives the controllers the excuse they need to continue to keep us locked down - particularly with the WHO changing the definition of herd immunity which is now specifically achieved via vaccination. They are stalling and dragging this out I think - the longer they keep us locked down, the more small businesses will go under and the greater their chances of bringing in their great reset and global governance. If there was mass vaccine take up now, it would be harder to justify the other restrictions.

 

Big Pharma are already raking in the profits as the UK government has committed to buying millions upon millions of doses, and the pharmaceutical companies are not going to care what is going to happen with the jabs afterwards and if they actually get used. So any money wasted will fall on the government along with any blame for mismanagement.

 

I think another part of bringing in the new global technocracy involves a complete loss of trust in, and destruction of, our national governments - and poor handling of the pandemic underpins this. They want us to think that our governments are failing us through incompetence, hence the laughable performances from our politicians. The solution, once our economies have been destroyed, will be globalisation.

 

I am not advocating for people to have the vaccines - of course not. Non-compliance in all forms needs to be implemented now but, in particular, small businesses need to reopen and stay open.

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In case people here aren't already aware of him, Andy Nowicki, an American dissident Right commenter, has produced some interesting YouTube videos on Covid-19:

 

 

 

 

YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDFMuRPjyGo25j81EQyVVcA

 

Website: https://affirmativeright.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-lockdown-is-psyop-part-11-that.html

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18 hours ago, alexa said:

OK you get arrested, fair enough, but my argument is why has the DM reported on this, also showing the 8 min vid that Debbie Hicks made of these empty hospitals? which you can't dispute against.

 

it doesn't matter that you know the truth about the hospitals being empty. It only matters that you are too afraid to do anything about it

 

So if you are already aware of the government lies then they are saying to you that yes the hospitals are empty but if you go out and record that and show it to others then you will be arrested and if you aren't aware that the government is lying by this point then frankly a video in the daily mail won't persuade you otherwise because you are already not thinking critically and will simply rationalise it away just as you have rationalised everything else away upto this point

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4 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

I speculated about this before and got shot to pieces, so here I go again...

 

If this is all about a fake virus and fake pandemic, maybe the vaccines are fake as well?

 

Maybe further down the line there are some really noxious vaccines in store for us all. Perhaps this 'first wave' of vaccines are completely non-toxic and harmless, after all this is all about getting people used to the idea.

 

I think they'll strike while the iron is hot and the adverse reactions from these vaccines will simply be labelled 'covid' and then used to justify a wider vaccine roll out and deeper restrictions on those that have refused the vaccine

 

As the populations health declines due to the damage caused by this wave of injections they will claim that more potent strains have developed and that more vaccine roll outs will be required

 

When they experimented with mRNA injections in the past they caused the immune systems of the test subjects to turn on them which is called 'immune enhancement'.

 

That's what i believe will happen but when it happens it won't be blamed on the vaccines, it will be blamed on a mutated strain of covid

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2 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

How do they put a halt on this casedemic then, suddenly stop testing?

 

they put a halt to the casedemic by not cycling the PCR tests at above 35 cycles which is what is creating all the false positives

 

Lower the cycles and there will be less 'positives'. Raise the cycles and you get more positives

 

Up the cycles and create a casedemic.....lower the cycles and casedemic goes away

 

So if you want to create a perception of infection you up the cycles to fear monger everyone into accepting the vaccines and then if you want to make it look like the vaccines are lowering infections you simply start lowering the cycles of the PCR tests and as if by magic there will be less people testing 'positive'

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6 hours ago, serpentine said:

Over the last few weeks the msm has gradually stopped referring to the type of testing that is taking place and is just talking about the number of cases without any referrence as to the real statistical significance of the numbers.

The game is almost up.

 

yes so they are going to need to accelerate the roll out of the harmful injections before people get wise:

New jab policy will save MANY lives: Jonathan Van Tam says waiting 12 weeks rather than original three is the best way to save most vulnerable from dying of Covid as first boxes of Oxford vaccine arrive

  • Deploying second vaccine is another achievement for science and public health in effort to tackle Covid-19
  • Hard work of researchers and scientists, and selflessness of volunteers in trials will soon begin to save lives
  • Priority is to deliver first vaccine doses to as many people on  Phase 1 priority list in shortest timeframe 

By Jonathan Van-tam, Deputy Chief Medical Officer For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 22:02, 2 January 2021 | Updated: 22:37, 2 January 2021

Last week, the UK became the first country in the world to authorise the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and this week we'll be the first to start using it to inoculate people against Covid-19 – having already given more than a million people an initial first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

Simply put, every time we vaccinate someone a second time, we are not vaccinating someone else for the first time. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9107097/New-12-week-jab-policy-save-lives-says-deputy-chief-medical-officer-Jonathan-Van-Tam.html

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1 minute ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

All saline.

 

I think that the conspirators would simply pretend to have got the jab whilst they would most definately have all the politicians, police, GP's and corporate and media types who are not conspirators injected

 

All you need is one of your people in a doctors surgery to falsely attest to having administered the jab to you and you are home and dry

 

But i don't think the cabal give a shit about rank and file police and most definately want them all injected too

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1 hour ago, bamboozooka said:

 

 

 

In all fairness, being devil's advocate here, and I really don't want to be, @ 20 seconds into that video shows the entrance to CCU. I know because I was in that very ward for two months. There was a point where all the tubes and etc were pulled out of me and that night I sat outside the ward in the corridor on seats that are now removed. I just wanted some peace and quiet in hospital down time. And I got it. I was the only person in that very corridor circa 2009.

 

Be very careful here. There are quiet periods in hospitals. In the Covid context and with allegations flying abound there needs to be absolutely no obfuscation as to what is going on.

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5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

But i don't think the cabal give a shit about rank and file police and most definately want them all injected too

 

they'll replace rank and file police with combat robots just as soon as they are able to

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3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Yeah but you theory I find naive, as we are talking about parasitical psychopaths & plus they have to prove this vaccine will stop people getting tested positive.

Which is already clear it doesnt.

How do they put a halt on this casedemic then, suddenly stop testing?

Im calling your bluff of bluffs Grumps & state the second vaccine will take a heavy toll.

My evidence is swine flu vaccine.

These people dont play.

 

 

One thing I will agree, as these vaccines effects will not be instant, but MRNA vaccine will create immune disease & yes you will need regular jab&go's or you will be dead.

 

From 2012

 

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