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13 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

If there are no concerns and the vaccine is safe, as according to microbiologist, Dr Yager, why was Bill Gates calling for legal indemnity of drug companies producing the COVID vaccines from an early stage, as well vaccine companies themselves? Here in the UK Pfizer got legal indemnity in the last month. Is Dr Yager going to put his money where his mouth is and pay out compensation for side effects?

 

Coronavirus vaccine: Pfizer given protection from legal action by UK government

Pfizer’s UK boss refuses to explain why the business needs protection from legal action

Shaun Lintern
Health Correspondent - Wednesday 02 December 2020 22:28
 

Covid-19 vaccine makers lobby EU for legal protection

Vaccine development in covid-era has been accelerated

Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 08:03
 
As the man says, Bill Gates, back in early April, (from 3 min 15 secs)  "If we have one in 10,000 side effects that's why you know way more than 700,000 ... you know people will suffer from that. So really the decision understanding the safety at a gigantic scale across all age ranges, you know, pregnant, male, female, undernourished, exsisting comordities - it is very, very hard and that actual decision to give this vaccine to the entire world, governments will have to be involved, because there will be some risk and indemnification needed before that can be decided on"
 
 
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More like 'THE FIVE WITCHES OF EASTWICK'

 

All hail the wonder women who've put us on top of the world! Brilliant, dedicated, courageous... the inspirational story of the team behind the Oxford vaccine 

 

DAVID JONES: All hail the wonder women who've put us on top of the world!

For the brilliant Britons who wrote their names into the history books yesterday, the evening of Sunday, November 22

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23 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Was wondering if anyone has seen good examples of letters to send to schools about not giving permission for cv testing. I’m capable of writing a letter but want to make it as effective as possible. Don’t want them to try and work around my reasoning or justification.

Also does anyone know if children who are not tested will be excluded. Will their be any repercussions for parents.

Tried talking to local council, left messages for school. Conveniently no one can give me any info.

would appreciate any knowledge you have gleaned!

 

I'd be interested in one too. Maybe we can all collaborate and make a super duper one?

 

I reckon we need to concentrate on mass testing of asymptomatic kids by PCR test not necessary as no kids are dead or no body around them are dead. Or shown not to pass it on.

 

Plus how long will they want to test for? When is end date and route out?

 

Plus we should say we dont consent to the psychological effect these testing will have on our kids. Making them feel dirty or unclean.

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11 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

If only the Daily Fail would put this on their site.

"Two giant leaps to freedom" says the Daily Mail, as the paper links Wednesday's main news events - the passage of the UK-EU trade deal through Parliament and the approval of the Oxford vaccine. The "historic day" saw the Brexit legislation pass before the 23:00 GMT deadline - and the jab approval provided hope for millions, the paper adds.

 

Two giant fingers to the Daily Fail

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13 hours ago, Liberty said:

It’s just data from the previous link. These are from trials using ad26. Same stuff in the Oxford vaccine. There’s lots more than that if you go to the webpage. I chose that data because it’s using a low dose as Oxfords is. All the above are side effects from that group. I’m not saying it’s exactly the same but it has ad26 in it that has previously been used for HIV trials. As has ad5 which is used in the MRNA vaccines and participants shown to be at increased risk of hiv after having it. Group 4 does show one person out of 48 being diagnosed with acute HIV infection after vaccination. 

Adenovirus vectors are used in gene therapy as well as vaccines. Interestingly a previous HIV vaccine developed by Merck increased HIV infection in the vaccinated, trials were stopped in 2007. The reason for this was unknown at that time.

 

Adenovirus Vectors for Gene Therapy, Vaccination and Cancer Gene Therapy - (see Section 6)

 

I posted about this in another thread. But there is a chance the 'vaccines' are actually an agents for antigen specific immunosuppression. That is, they render our immune system vulnerable to an as yet unreleased agent being brewed up for release in the future, possibly another virus.

 

If you were given the vaccine then exposed to this agent your immune system would be bypassed and the results would be catastrophic, most likely fatal.

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My conclusion or 2020

 

1) People do not genuinely care about other people. That is, to take the time to step back, analyse and process information - then decide on actions. Actions or "caring" or others is top down - they say you care about x you care about x, tomorrow you have to care about y you care about y. So there is no genuine care amongst peoples for other peoples.

 

2) You cannot trust the government. Even if you are a staunch covid believer, nobody can deny government lies purported during this crisis.

 

3) We do not live in a democracy. No pretend anymore about this, MPs are no longer consulted about policy, even when they are, it can be overturned the next week by the PM.

 

4) The NHS is shite, doesn't work and a new system needs to be created immediately preferably offering genuine alternatives to people that includes traditional medicine rather than only offering new age medicine.

 

5) Freedom of speech has been eradicated on main stream media platforms - you are not allowed to say what you think anymore.

 

 

(sure I could list a few more :)

 

I see 2021> going one of two ways, either complete compliance or complete defiance. Power to the big corps, banks and gov or power to the people. This has been an ongoing issue for many years and it's coming to a crossroads now. Just which road will you be riding along? 

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'Anyone who doesn't wear their mask - they have blood on their hands': Intensive care doctor blames 'badly behaved' public for Covid hospitals crisis after UK suffered deadliest day since April with 981 deaths

By Martin Robinson, Chief Reporter For Mailonline09:40, 31 Dec 2020 , updated 10:57, 31 Dec 2020

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https://youtu.be/-WuGCtNIUPo

Is this the same guy who has been preaching about climate change and took his begging bowl to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation? They look the same and have same name. 
 

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Mr H said:

My conclusion or 2020

 

1) People do not genuinely care about other people. That is, to take the time to step back, analyse and process information - then decide on actions. Actions or "caring" or others is top down - they say you care about x you care about x, tomorrow you have to care about y you care about y. So there is no genuine care amongst peoples for other peoples.

 

2) You cannot trust the government. Even if you are a staunch covid believer, nobody can deny government lies purported during this crisis.

 

3) We do not live in a democracy. No pretend anymore about this, MPs are no longer consulted about policy, even when they are, it can be overturned the next week by the PM.

 

4) The NHS is shite, doesn't work and a new system needs to be created immediately preferably offering genuine alternatives to people that includes traditional medicine rather than only offering new age medicine.

 

5) Freedom of speech has been eradicated on main stream media platforms - you are not allowed to say what you think anymore.

 

 

(sure I could list a few more :)

 

I see 2021> going one of two ways, either complete compliance or complete defiance. Power to the big corps, banks and gov or power to the people. This has been an ongoing issue for many years and it's coming to a crossroads now. Just which road will you be riding along? 

Agree. In the meantime we could experience what really does feel like a pandemic with some of those side effects like influenza and influenza like illnesses and respiratory infections being very high. If 6 people in 49 around us had that we would know about it. 

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Anyone who thinks 2021 is going to be better. Anyone full of hope for a better new year.

Just remember they only need one signature to lock you up now.

Unfortunately but unsurprisingly I think 2021 is pretty much going to be everyone for themselves. Unless people who object to this tyranny unite behind a decent, articulate, charismatic leader who has no hidden agenda.

We need people now prepared to go all in in, in the fight for freedom.

Dont need to be a “conspiracy theorist” to realise something is not right.

There have been enough books written on dystopian subjects. Written many years ago by acclaimed authors. People who are respected in the literary world.

Their are enough examples of how to peacefully push back against tyranny.

The problem is I don’t know how many sparks are needed to light the fires of resistance underneath enough people to realistically have a chance.

 

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12 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

https://www.ft.com/content/04f4120f-fa5f-4e79-93d6-55170057980f?fbclid=IwAR3RYFubrnfK0CsVVy3OZwFk7zuuqwBKQoq6bJ4f5GnXi9ndqdfBi7-Gq3g

 

Today it came out as so obviously predictable the new mutation is no more deadlier atall..not that I believe it exists apart form what they pulled out their arse, to gaslight you some more.

The Covidians wont read or care.

Along with the hospitals overflowing bollocks, they are all in fight or flight as always, demanding even more draconian shite.

They throw emotional arguments at you.

I swear nobody can be this dumb. 

They organise mass crowd spams on twatter to push the stay at fear.

ORGANISED!🐀

Desmond sounds legit with great articulate speeches, but I cant help but feel hes part of the theatre of course mocking us, or maybe he is partially credible unlike the rest of the commons.

Nobody is that credible, or they couldnt bare be around that den of vipers.

No hes playing his part, blackmailed like the rest.

Giving the illusion.
Whilst the remembrancer keeps an eye.

 

 

What an actor Swayne is.

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4 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

If there are no concerns and the vaccine is safe, as according to microbiologist, Dr Yager, why was Bill Gates calling for legal indemnity of drug companies producing the COVID vaccines from an early stage, as well vaccine companies themselves? Here in the UK Pfizer got legal indemnity in the last month. Is Dr Yager going to put his money where his money is and pay out compensation for side effects?

 

Coronavirus vaccine: Pfizer given protection from legal action by UK government

Pfizer’s UK boss refuses to explain why the business needs protection from legal action

Shaun Lintern
Health Correspondent - Wednesday 02 December 2020 22:28
 

Covid-19 vaccine makers lobby EU for legal protection

Vaccine development in covid-era has been accelerated

Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 08:03
 
As the man says, Bill Gates, back in early April, (from 3 min 15 secs)  "If we have one in 10,000 side effects that's why you know way more than 700,000 ... you know people will suffer from that. So really the decision understanding the safety at a gigantic scale across all age ranges, you know, pregnant, male, female, undernourished, exsisting comordities - it is very, very hard and that actual decision to give this vaccine to the entire world, governments will have to be involved, because there will be some risk and indemnification needed before that can be decided on"
 
 

 

Now I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but....

 

"In the US, the Department of Health and Human Services issued a declaration that retroactively provides “liability immunity for activities related to medical countermeasures against COVID-19,” including manufacturers, distributors and program planners of “any vaccine, used to treat, diagnose, cure, prevent, or mitigate COVID-19.” The declaration was issued on March 17th but retroactively covers any activity back to February 4th, 2020, the day before the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation announced an emergency $100 million to fund treatment efforts and to develop new vaccines for COVID-19."

 

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Media-Center/Press-Releases/2020/02/Bill-and-Melinda-Gates-Foundation-Dedicates-Additional-Funding-to-the-Novel-Coronavirus-Response

 

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/03/17/2020-05484/declaration-under-the-public-readiness-and-emergency-preparedness-act-for-medical-countermeasures

 

c/- https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/#part3

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39 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

The problem is I don’t know how many sparks are needed to light the fires of resistance underneath enough people to realistically have a chance.

 

This world domination game has lots of shock and awe but keeping people under their spell beyond covid is uncharted territory and they are fighting on an unprecedented number of fronts in rotation patterns. Tough here..lenient there. Chipping away. They may suffer battle fatigue prematurely given the scale of these operations. Any failure in AI and the whole circus falls apart. People may not need to rise up or do anything, just let the plan implode. Like when in court the prosecuter has not made a case its pointless mounting a defence because his petition will fail on its own. We can hope that the computer models that predicted the outcome of the agenda are as well thought out as the covid models have been. Also there are legions waiting to sue them when the chance arises. There is also the assumption that military cyber experts are better than civilian. Lots of assumptions fuelling this ransacking effort.

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More on the woman arrested who filmed the empty hospital wards

https://summit.news/2020/12/30/uk-woman-arrested-for-filming-inside-empty-hospital/

UK Woman Arrested For Filming Inside Empty Hospital

Video contradicts government assertion of overrun wards.

 

According to reports, a 46-year-old woman was subsequently arrested by police for filming the video and has been charged on suspicion of a public order offence.

“The woman has been bailed to return to police on 21 January, with conditions that she cannot enter any NHS premises or the grounds of any such premises, unless in the case of an emergency or to attend a pre-arranged NHS appointment,” said a statement by Gloucestershire Police.

While the footage shows the inside of the hospital to be virtually empty, UK health authorities have continually asserted that the NHS is at risk of being “overwhelmed” as a result of rising COVID-19 infections.

NHS England says that there are now more COVID-19 patients in hospitals than there were during the April peak of the first wave.

However, public data shows that hospitals are indeed emptier than at this time last year, with beds being at 89% occupancy compared to 95% occupancy in December 2019.

In regions across the country, critical care occupancy rates are also lower than the 3 year average.

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— Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) December 29, 2020

Almost all of the emergency Nightingale hospitals that were built at a cost of £220million to handle overflow COVID patients were never used and are now being dismantled.

Many have also questioned why nurses have had time to perform carefully rehearsed and choreographed dances for social media clout, with family members of cancer victims who have been denied treatment complaining about their insensitivity.

twitter video link:

 

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37 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Anyone who thinks 2021 is going to be better. Anyone full of hope for a better new year.

Just remember they only need one signature to lock you up now.

Unfortunately but unsurprisingly I think 2021 is pretty much going to be everyone for themselves. Unless people who object to this tyranny unite behind a decent, articulate, charismatic leader who has no hidden agenda.

We need people now prepared to go all in in, in the fight for freedom.

Dont need to be a “conspiracy theorist” to realise something is not right.

There have been enough books written on dystopian subjects. Written many years ago by acclaimed authors. People who are respected in the literary world.

Their are enough examples of how to peacefully push back against tyranny.

The problem is I don’t know how many sparks are needed to light the fires of resistance underneath enough people to realistically have a chance.

 

I agree. But would also say best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Should be very apparent to anyone aware what could happen in the future, restriction of movements, money confiscations the whole shebang. All sounds terrifying and it would be prudent to put at least some care into preparing for these scenarios.

 

At the same time, although all the dangers should be made aware of, they should not be at the forefront of people's minds. If you look at the process of manifestation it all starts, consciously with thought - which then leads to actions and words. So let not the predominant feature of thought be on the negative, let it be on the future you do want -  whilst at the same time having the maturity to be fully prepared for any government tomofoolery - but have that more as the background thought/something to be aware of, rather than constantly focusing on it making it more likely to come true. Just my 2 cents.

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8 minutes ago, Mr H said:

I agree. But would also say best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Should be very apparent to anyone aware what could happen in the future, restriction of movements, money confiscations the whole shebang. All sounds terrifying and it would be prudent to put at least some care into preparing for these scenarios.

 

At the same time, although all the dangers should be made aware of, they should not be at the forefront of people's minds. If you look at the process of manifestation it all starts, consciously with thought - which then leads to actions and words. So let not the predominant feature of thought be on the negative, let it be on the future you do want -  whilst at the same time having the maturity to be fully prepared for any government tomofoolery - but have that more as the background thought/something to be aware of, rather than constantly focusing on it making it more likely to come true. Just my 2 cents.

 

My partner has been saying this to me for weeks as I talk with such woe.

 

I dismissed him...but now I see it really does come down to the thought process.

The world does change when we do..

 

I noticed this years ago when I was a whippersnapper in the 90's.

I had such a love for the 60's and desperately wanted my own poncho.

Lo and behold, a few weeks later they were everywhere.

Now, that could be coincidence...but I no longer believe in coincidences after a life full of synchronicities. Now I get them on a daily basis..sometimes 20 odd times a day.

 

This just tells me we are more tapped in to change than we realise, just with the vibration we emit.

 

I know, it sounds odd to many..but once you experience years of synchronicity, it kinda gives you your own proof I guess.

 

There are times I reflect on all of this and cry. It gets to me..then something happens.

 

When I don't let it get to me, everything changes.

 

Life is so complex, there is no doubt we are powerful beings.

Now..how to tap in to our true potential... that's something I'd love to work on :)

 

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