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1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

The biggest issue I have with trying to wake friends up is that they often just say:

 

"I don't want to hear it, it's too depressing".

 

They don't disgaree with what I say or tell me that it's just conspiracy nonsense, they just don't seem to care. They're too hedonistic and just want pleasure. Their lives just revolve around Tinder, footy, music, and drugs. It's like talking to a brick wall at times.

 

I'm thankful that people in the past didn't just live for cheap thrills. If men can't face unpleasant truths then I don't see how society can be saved.

Its funny, because I like all those things you're friends like, but I can still see the wood for the trees and distinguish truth from falsehood. Not sure peoples interests necessarily dictate whether they can see truth or not. Id say it's more to do with the brainwashing from birth in certain belief systems and Tel-lies-vision. Either way, what ever the reason is for their hedonistic views, we're fucked if more cannot shake their incessant societal belief systems. 👍

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Its funny, because I like all those things you're friends like, but I can still see the wood for the trees and distinguish truth from falsehood. Not sure peoples interests necessarily dictate whether they can see truth or not. Id say it's more to do with the brainwashing from birth in certain belief systems and Tel-lies-vision. Either way, what ever the reason is for their hedonistic views, we're fucked if more cannot shake their incessant societal belief systems. 👍

 

Yeah it's their nature, not the vice.

 

Me and you are stoners and not asleep so I don't blame the distractions, I blame them for their lack of empathy.

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 Torsten Engelbrecht & Claus Köhnlein, MD. have juts written a piece that succinclty describes the lockdown excess deaths in tangible detail.

 

2020 Excess Deaths Due To Poor Treatments, Not COVID-19

 

"Apart from that, so-called SARS-CoV-2 tests, whose „positive“ results are being used as the rationale for the lockdowns, are in fact scientifically meaningless. This is illustrated already by the fact that there is not even a valid gold standard for these tests, as for example Australian infectious diseases specialist Sanjaya Senanayake confirmed in an ABC TV interview.

Yet, Australian government’s own website admits COVID-19 PCR tests are totally unreliable. And then studies also show that lockdowns and mask mandates do not lead to reduced COVID transmission rates or deaths.

A lockdown in Australia is all the more absurd if you consider that there „the per capita deaths are about 26 per million over a six months period,“ as David James, journalist from Down Under, stated recently in an OffGuardian article. With the best will in the world this cannot be called a virus pandemic. Especially since „The chief health officer in Victoria admitted that they were not testing for the virus, just assuming that if there were flu-like symptom it must be COVID-19; and deaths by flu in Australia, it should be added, are running unusually low,“ as James adds."

 

 

"Lancet case study from February 18, 2020

A blueprint for medication excesses

That there was a massive experimental use of medication, this became possible also due to papers such as the single-case study that was published in The Lancet on February 18th. It describes a casuistry of a 50-year-old patient who suffered from fever, chills, coughing, tiredness and shortness of breath and who has been classified as COVID-19 patient.

Thereupon he was treated with a real drug armada consisting of the antiviral drugs interferon alfa-2b, lopinavir and ritonavir, the very hard antibiotic moxifloxacin and high dose of cortisone (methylprednisolone)—substances that can have lethal side effects even when taken alone. Moreover, tissue samples were taken during the autopsy—and here the authors even concede that the observed liver damages may have been caused by the drugs. The conclusion that the patient died due to drug toxicity is inevitable."

 

The rest here https://principia-scientific.com/2020-excess-deaths-due-to-poor-treatments-not-covid-19/

 

 

Fits with the descriptions from earlier in the year!

Excess deaths during lockdown due to drug coctails 2-6 times the normal dose of HCQ, Morphine analogue use twice that of previous year,  isolation/abandonment of mentally impaired dementia sufferers resulting in vastly increased mortality.

 

 

 

 

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50 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

The biggest issue I have with trying to wake friends up is that they often just say:

 

"I don't want to hear it, it's too depressing".

 

They don't disgaree with what I say or tell me that it's just conspiracy nonsense, they just don't seem to care. They're too hedonistic and just want pleasure. Their lives just revolve around Tinder, footy, music, and drugs. It's like talking to a brick wall at times.

 

I'm thankful that people in the past didn't just live for cheap thrills. If men can't face unpleasant truths then I don't see how society can be saved.

 

To be honest I think the world was always thus, it takes a small group of people with real balls to stand up and force a change, the rest don't want to hear about it.

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12 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

To be honest I think the world was always thus, it takes a small group of people with real balls to stand up and force a change, the rest don't want to hear about it.

 

That's true. I think a person's upbringing plays a big part too. I have a Nigerian friend that is very aware of what is going on like me, but he also grew up in a pretty religious and traditional family like me, where as my other freinds didn't. I often forget that some of us have had warnings about these times drummed into us since children, so I can understand that everyone didn't start with a level playing field.

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16 hours ago, skitzorat said:

In my mind, the "TIERS" in the UK, I've been watching them constantly changing:  red, orange, green - (but still medium threat not a low threat that green usually stands for,) high, low, 3,4,6 then its different in Scotland with their own version, similar, but not the same at the same time.

Then your rules of 6,5,4,3,2,1

Constantly changing day to day, week by week, area by area- Its all to constantly make normal people who 'want to abide by the rules to protect Granny' be in a state of constant total confusion as to which level/colour/rule applies to them where they are today. So eventually the normies, exhausted with the changes just give up any internal notion of sovereignty: no need to be exhausted when your on autopilot. And to make sure they crush the normies British spirit now, this year, because the war hasn't even begun yet. There's no doubt that they know  Mr and Mrs Normie's British Spirit will definitely come out to fight once the illusion of the "pandemic" game can no longer be kept up. When the mask slips from the media and there is no way blind Fredy cant see its been a huge fake, Mr and Mrs Normie will be very,very angry and the physical battles are whats needed when things really fire up. Any and all traces of Mr and Mrs Normies British Spirit has to be broken before that happens.

 

-(It breaks my heart the amount of psychological warfare Ive seen being driven into the psyche of Britain. I'm a Kiwi, but I have direct British/Scottish ancestry, have a passport, and lived in London for many years over a decade ago so even though I'm so far away, I'm still damaged by it)

Yeah - we're getting it hard here in britain, they've literally just raised the tier system here for many areas that were in tier 2 - are now in tier 3.
Just in time for NYE celebrations.
I don't give a fuck anymore - never have to be honest - there's no lockdown been existent for me.
The masses are still wearing their masks in shops like obediant slaves.

But, as far as I can see it, and feel it, (talking with people, the vibes here) somethings brewing, January is going to be interesting, the bubble of patience is about to burst here.

 

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8 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

Yes, they have a financial incentive to diagnose "probable" Covid in anyone with a slight cough, which is then included as a "confirmed case" even with no test.

 

This is the perverse system they have set up to keep us in permanent crisis.

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3 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Yeah - we're getting it hard here in britain, they've literally just raised the tier system here for many areas that were in tier 2 - are now in tier 3.
Just in time for NYE celebrations.
I don't give a fuck anymore - never have to be honest - there's no lockdown been existent for me.
The masses are still wearing their masks in shops like obediant slaves.

But, as far as I can see it, and feel it, (talking with people, the vibes here) somethings brewing, January is going to be interesting, the bubble of patience is about to burst here.

 

 

I hope so, but dissatisfaction and frustration has been high probably since the beginning of the second lockdown and yet we go on and on with nothing but a couple of small and heavily policed protests. Part of the problem is trying to organise something when the normal channels are not an option any more.

 

People are going to have had enough eventually, but I just hope it's before we are all on the grid and our every move is watched and policed, because it's going to be damn all use at that stage.

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4 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Yes, they have a financial incentive to diagnose "probable" Covid in anyone with a slight cough, which is then included as a "confirmed case" even with no test.

 

This is the perverse system they have set up to keep us in permanent crisis.

 

sounds like when they used to get a bonus for putting people on lcp the nhs where bumping people off all the time.

 

 

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Yeah it's their nature, not the vice.

 

Me and you are stoners and not asleep so I don't blame the distractions, I blame them for their lack of empathy.

I work with improving people's lives, and I've learned one thing: people don't want to get better. They want someone else to do the shit for them, so that they can improve. They don't realize that they have to go through shit, and most people don't want to. That's it basically🤷‍♀️.

 

I believe we all have different levels of consciousness, and we can't force someone to be something they aren't. If their time comes, fine, if not, it doesn't. And we must accept it. Each one in their own time.

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Yeah it's their nature, not the vice.

 

Me and you are stoners and not asleep so I don't blame the distractions, I blame them for their lack of empathy.

I don't even think it's that, i believe it is basic logic, reasoning and comprehension. 

 

Clearly people aren't using any logic at present and are just hysterical. Thereafter, due to their core coerced hysteria are unable to reason and comprehend the situation they find themselves in and are in denial about what is truly going on. It's like what Bam said, fingers in the ears because they don't want to believe that they have been duped to such a massive scale and this in the end is egotism. Too bullish to admit they're wrong. My mother in law is exactly this, she's right, you're wrong and that's it. Dealing with children mate, unable to act like adults and take responsibility for their own shit.  

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2 minutes ago, atenea said:

I work with improving people's lives, and I've learned one thing: people don't want to get better. They want someone else to do the shit for them, so that they can improve. They don't realize that they have to go through shit, and most people don't want to. That's it basically🤷‍♀️.

 

I believe we all have different levels of consciousness, and we can't force someone to be something they aren't. If their time comes, fine, if not, it doesn't. And we must accept it. Each one in their own time.

 

Agreed.

 

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Looks like schools will effectively be closed for normal education for the foreseeable future...

 

There is absolutely no chance that parents will be sending kids in with mass testing when results will come back with all of the false positives. Attendance figures are down below what is considered acceptable standards as it is (below 80-85%) and EWO's get involved.

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24 minutes ago, atenea said:

exactly what a friend also said 🤦‍♀️😂

 

Spoke to my dad today. He's received shielding letters each time we have been put in lockdown.  Today, upon the news of hearing we were going into Tier 4 he said they could shove the inevitable new letter up their arse.  As a side note, he has continued his normal life (to the extent possible) through all of this and maintained a dignified silence when confronted with the mindless masked over the last few months but he had a good old rant which made me smile. 

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2 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

i dropped a load of kill gates video quote bombs to programmed family to watch.

can you guess the first thing they did before i even pressed play?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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no word of a lie.

got them to watch it then cognitive dissonance set in and you have never heard such stupid

excuses to explain away what they had just seen.

 

 I totally sympathise and kudos to you for trying! I had the same response with my family.

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