Orange Alert Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 4 hours ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said: 1960's technology looks shockingly cumbersome i find it very hard to believe mankind managed to travel to the moon in that awful looking tin can of a spaceship and wearing that goldfish bowl helmet spacesuit for radiation protection too makes me laugh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 5 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Reciting the Iliad in Greek is pretty cool, but Bojo probably would have screwed ancient Greece too, and they wouldn't have had Wikipedia Early Life sections back then to notice wolves in sheeps clothing. Now that I think about it, we have to be the dumbest generation ever. We have the tools to notice patterns and to see what motivates those in power, but we still don't bother. Always said that in the internet we have at our disposal the greatest learning tool in the history of the world. Apart from maybe our brain. The problem is the majority use technology to post photos of their lunch and animals in cute poses. when I was a child I would have learnt more about a subject not just liked a photo of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 14 hours ago, Not-me said: You are repeating gossip. The steps taken to limit the spread of covid-19 are fairly effective in limiting the spread of influenza. I am just amazed that you think healthcare workers are not aware of the differences between flu and covid-19, because that is your implication. Repeating gossip? What are you doing? Care to share any evidence to back up your ramblings? Flu has been eradicated because of the measures weve taken? And you have the audacity to talk about other people promoting gossip. You are so far out of your depth it's not funny. Why does masks and stuff eradicate flu but not SARS cov2? Why has countries like japan China korea not seen any statisically significant difference in their deaths even though they been wearing masks for decades? I am one of these health care professionals you referenced who has a Msc and Mpharm after their name. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 My fam thinks I'm being a scrooge because I don't want to join a Christmas Zoom call. They know I don't even like posting photos on social media because I hate my biometrics being harvested, yet they want me on video. 2020 sucks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: My fam thinks I'm being a scrooge because I don't want to join a Christmas Zoom call. They know I don't even like posting photos on social media because I hate my biometrics being harvested, yet they want me on video. 2020 sucks. Cellotape a picture of someone else in front of the camera and talk in a Bugs Bunny voice ? I'm sure that'll be fine :0) 4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: 2020 sucks Only a few more days to go... hang in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Odie Hatzcats Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: My fam thinks I'm being a scrooge because I don't want to join a Christmas Zoom call. They know I don't even like posting photos on social media because I hate my biometrics being harvested, yet they want me on video. 2020 sucks. I have the exact same problem mate. They want me to get whatsup or app or whatever it is and have a chat! Haven't said yes or no yet and time is passing and I am going to get a call asking if I have got it yet!! I don't want it on my computer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining-one Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 You should watch Interstellar. Yes, we went to the moon. The science was solid enough and, as someone stated, mostly German. The technology existed as did the drive for discovery and acceptance of risk. Gagarin also tested Einstein's Relativity with an atomic clock as he orbited the planet. Think he landed in Siberia. I once got pretty much banned from a science forum as they got mega upset by my discussion of maths related to the lunar transmission. You had to use specialised systems because normal transmissions wouldn't make it into space. If Apollo had been faked the Soviets would have known. However, they knew the science was doable. In fact, Russia had a working shuttle by the 1980s but this was grounded after the collapse of Perestroika and resulting collapse. Internet has given many opportunities but mostly it seems to have substituted "brain power". It's become a crutch. Great for storing data but science needs risk, inventiveness and drive. So, it's a paradox. In 1969 they still used CW (morse) and SSB transmitters (actually built by amateurs). However, we had industry in this country, a strong economy and some appreciation of process of law. Plus free grants to study. Would young people in the 1960s have put up with being dictated to and wearing masks? It would have sparked unrest similar to Vietnam - which eventually became too widespread to prevent. Of course I'm not ruling out Covid protests may attain that level of opposition. Especially when the economy destabilises. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining-one Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Apparently Boris's Latin is pretty good. The only snag is he lacks a connection to the real world. He was famously set-up by a Russian TV comic who phoned Boris up. He impersonated a supposedly high ranked diplomat. The funny bit was when he asked Boris if a future meeting with Putin could result in poison. Boris seemed taken in but later said he knew it was all a set-up. You can see the interview and it seems to me poor Boris was bamboozled. Educated but not street wise perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said: My fam thinks I'm being a scrooge because I don't want to join a Christmas Zoom call. They know I don't even like posting photos on social media because I hate my biometrics being harvested, yet they want me on video. 2020 sucks. I had the same situation a few days ago. I don't want to be on Zoom. I'm sure they can harvest facial and voice recogntion. Because I'm truly a tech dinosaur, I was able to bow out. Edited December 25, 2020 by Golden Retriever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, The Illuminator said: Repeating gossip? What are you doing? Care to share any evidence to back up your ramblings? Flu has been eradicated because of the measures weve taken? And you have the audacity to talk about other people promoting gossip. You are so far out of your depth it's not funny. Why does masks and stuff eradicate flu but not SARS cov2? Why has countries like japan China korea not seen any statisically significant difference in their deaths even though they been wearing masks for decades? I am one of these health care professionals you referenced who has a Msc and Mpharm after their name. The mask argument falls apart before you even get to efficacy. Why are they mandated but any old piece of cloth is OK? Why is nobody instructed how to actually use them rather than fumbling around with it and potentially using the same one for weeks on end? Why no biohazard bins for masks if they are potentially crawling with Covid? They're meant to demoralise you and shut you up, human muzzles. Anyway, Happy Christmas all! Think we're all entitled to at least one day off all this shite. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Thoth Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 5 hours ago, alexa said: Did you notice the logo on the box GO OD O' GOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Thoth Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Basket Case said: Cellotape a picture of someone else in front of the camera and talk in a Bugs Bunny voice ? I'm sure that'll be fine :0) A sock-puppet is the way forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fluke Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: My fam thinks I'm being a scrooge because I don't want to join a Christmas Zoom call. They know I don't even like posting photos on social media because I hate my biometrics being harvested, yet they want me on video. 2020 sucks. Yeah you sound me mate. Trying to normalise all this talking to each other through a screen. My grandad told me off the other day someone in our family brought them an Alexa and when they had it on I spoke to her with the contempt that whore deserves. "Don't talk to her like that" Merry Christmas everyone. Not going to lie it's the worst day of the year for me so I'm just gritting my teeth to get through it. On another level respect to all the Christians and people that love Christmas I am aware it's under attack along with all loving contact. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fluke said: Yeah you sound me mate. Trying to normalise all this talking to each other through a screen. My grandad told me off the other day someone in our family brought them an Alexa and when they had it on I spoke to her with the contempt that whore deserves. "Don't talk to her like that" Merry Christmas everyone. Not going to lie it's the worst day of the year for me so I'm just gritting my teeth to get through it. On another level respect to all the Christians and people that love Christmas I am aware it's under attack along with all loving contact. Appreciate it. Whether you celebrate Christmas, Yuletide, or neither. I hope everyone can find a bit of time to switch off from things. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Fluke said: Yeah you sound me mate. Trying to normalise all this talking to each other through a screen. My grandad told me off the other day someone in our family brought them an Alexa and when they had it on I spoke to her with the contempt that whore deserves. "Don't talk to her like that" Merry Christmas everyone. Not going to lie it's the worst day of the year for me so I'm just gritting my teeth to get through it. On another level respect to all the Christians and people that love Christmas I am aware it's under attack along with all loving contact. Yeah man I'm also a bit of a Grinch, can't stand the posturing and everyone showing off their "perfect" lives at the best of times. But look, it's an important day for a lot of people and it seems like the vast majority are allowing themselves a day off this shite, which can only be a positive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Good Samaritans helping the elderly, children and poor families at Christmas https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2020-12-25-good-samaritans-helping-the-elderly-children-and-poor-families-at-christmas/ “This year I’ll be happy if there is even enough to make a sandwich for every person who comes. But we are expecting a big donation of nougat which we will cut up so each child gets a piece for Christmas." “Every day we get about 30 people. We’ve had days when there have been more than 100. There are not enough donations to keep tummies full. The public don’t realise what it’s like for the truly destitute. It would be amazing if people were able to help with donations, but with businesses closing down funding has dried up. This is the most depressing Christmas ever.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 The three of us were supposed togo to my Mams for XMas dinner today. My bro, who has a daughter recovering from skull op, wanted us all to take a test, one of those home kits. Initially I said yes, well to be honest I thought he has going to give me the tests to bring home, so could stick up dogs ass or whatever. My Mam told me my bro was probly going to do tests himself on us. I told her I give zero credibility to them anyway, she responded well your opinion doesnt count. Thats it for me, woke up today and told wife we aint going. I made excuse that my son isnt feeling well but I will let them know eventually my real reason. I was just mulling over the consequences of doing a test and it actually turning out positive for any of us, chances are about 16/1 going by stats. Firstly, presuming one of my family notifies health authorities you add to the lieing stats. Then the hassle of quarantining or pretending to etc etc. I tell you what the mood in our house is great, I just loudly put on Cream, I Feel Free and had a good dance. Myself and wife are really tired of my family at this point. I feel especially sorry for my Dad, he knows how headstrong I am about all this nonsense but just refuses togo there himself. A happy Xmas to all the sane people here 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Just to add to the mask debate: https://www.britannica.com/science/byssinosis Byssinosis, also called brown lung, orbrown lung disease, respiratory disorder caused by inhalation of an endotoxin produced by bacteria in the fibres of cotton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAwakened Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Just to add to the mask debate: https://www.britannica.com/science/byssinosis Byssinosis, also called brown lung, orbrown lung disease, respiratory disorder caused by inhalation of an endotoxin produced by bacteria in the fibres of cotton. Interesting.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, owen said: The three of us were supposed togo to my Mams for XMas dinner today. My bro, who has a daughter recovering from skull op, wanted us all to take a test, one of those home kits. Initially I said yes, well to be honest I thought he has going to give me the tests to bring home, so could stick up dogs ass or whatever. My Mam told me my bro was probly going to do tests himself on us. I told her I give zero credibility to them anyway, she responded well your opinion doesnt count. Thats it for me, woke up today and told wife we aint going. I made excuse that my son isnt feeling well but I will let them know eventually my real reason. I was just mulling over the consequences of doing a test and it actually turning out positive for any of us, chances are about 16/1 going by stats. Firstly, presuming one of my family notifies health authorities you add to the lieing stats. Then the hassle of quarantining or pretending to etc etc. I tell you what the mood in our house is great, I just loudly put on Cream, I Feel Free and had a good dance. Myself and wife are really tired of my family at this point. I feel especially sorry for my Dad, he knows how headstrong I am about all this nonsense but just refuses togo there himself. A happy Xmas to all the sane people here Sorry to hear that, its putting massive strain on people's relationships, be it family, friends or partners, and it's only going to get more difficult when we're made pick sides and claim to be a "vaxxer/anti-vaxxer". Really glad you've been able to enjoy the day regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 9 hours ago, alexa said: Weren't they also off loading Guillotines at about the same time, also ? Here is a link but I think it has been removed. http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/Archives/19951996/leg/fulltext/hb1274.htm Link to that is unsupported. No idea what happened with the dots and this info is from around 2014. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I recall watching the towers collapse at 911. The year following this we posted the evidence that the event was a false flag ad nauseum. This was in the days of Libertyforum. Views to these threads were very numerous and one could easily be forgiven for thinking the masses would rise up and bring the perps to justice. The years passed and that agenda plowed ahead as if no one had ever had a dissenting opinion on this matter. I remember thinking how royally screwed we would all be if they got away with that. Now, here we are experiencing the logical conclusions of our failure to act. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odie Hatzcats Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Here is a link but I think it has been removed. http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/Archives/19951996/leg/fulltext/hb1274.htm Well it would seem to have been a 'thing'? A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT 1- 1 To amend Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official 1- 2 Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty 1- 3 generally, so as to provide a statement of legislative 1- 4 policy; to provide for death by guillotine; to provide for 1- 5 applicability; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other 1- 6 purposes. 1- 7 BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF GEORGIA: SECTION 1. 1- 8 The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to 1- 9 death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for 1-10 transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that 1-11 electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for 1-12 transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting 1-13 this legislation is to provide for a method of execution 1-14 which is compatible with the donation of organs by a 1-15 condemned prisoner. SECTION 2. 1-16 Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official Code of 1-17 Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty generally, 1-18 is amended by striking in its entirety Code Section 1-19 17-10-38, relating to death sentences generally, and 1-20 inserting in lieu thereof the following: 1-21 "17-10-38. 1-22 (a) All persons who have been convicted of a capital 1-23 offense and have had imposed upon them a sentence of death 1-24 shall, at the election of the condemned, suffer such 1-25 punishment either by electrocution or by guillotine. If 1-26 the condemned fails to make an election by the thirtieth 1-27 day preceding the date scheduled for execution, punishment 1-28 shall be by electrocution. 1-29 (b) In all cases in which the defendant is sentenced to be 1-30 electrocuted executed, it shall be the duty of the trial 1-31 judge in passing sentence to direct that the defendant be -1- LC 21 3643 2- 1 delivered to the Department of Corrections for 2- 2 electrocution execution at a state correctional 2- 3 institution designated by the department." SECTION 3. 2- 4 Said article is further amended by striking in its entirety 2- 5 Code Section 17-10-44, relating to death chamber apparatus 2- 6 and related matters, and inserting in lieu thereof the 2- 7 following: 2- 8 "17-10-44. 2- 9 The Department of Corrections shall provide a death 2-10 chamber and all necessary apparatus, machinery, and 2-11 appliances for inflicting the penalty of death by 2-12 electrocution or by guillotine." SECTION 4. 2-13 This Act shall be applicable to all executions occurring on 2-14 or after August 31, 1996. SECTION 5. 2-15 All laws and parts of laws in conflict with this Act are 2-16 repealed. https://web.archive.org/web/20130725032901/http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/Archives/19951996/leg/fulltext/hb1274.htm#p1 The fact that to donate organs the body MUST be alive seems either lost on them or is the reason why it was doesn't seem to be in force (although I may be incorrect on that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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