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You wont believe this.   I just went down Lidls to get some steak.   Security guard calls me out as I walk past & I ignore him. Gets my steak walks to the credit only till

Some images of today's demonstration in London (not taken by me personally).                

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3 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

Wrong.

 

"Because some of the symptoms of flu and COVID-19 are similar, it may be hard to tell the difference between them based on symptoms alone, and testing may be needed to help confirm a diagnosis. Flu and COVID-19 share many characteristics, but there are some key differences between the two"

 

And the unreliable tests?

Similarities:

Both COVID-19 and flu can have varying degrees of signs and symptoms, ranging from no symptoms (asymptomatic) to severe symptoms. Common symptoms that COVID-19 and flu share include:

  • Fever or feeling feverish/chills
  • Cough
  • Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
  • Fatigue (tiredness)
  • Sore throat
  • Runny or stuffy nose
  • Muscle pain or body aches
  • Headache
  • Some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

 

 

Absolutely spot on GR!

 

The folk I know who "tested positive" only had the sniffles of all things.

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3 hours ago, Basket Case said:


Chill dude..
lt's nothing in the bigger picture.

BC

But it does deflect attention from why we are all here. Surely that isn’t to counter respond to conscientious objectors? There’s enough of those wankers out there in the day to day. 

This forum is for truthers to share info not do battle in house. 

I say gag him, but who am I to judge?! 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

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Bit weird saying this. But, Merry Christmas to my friends/family on here, even though I know none of you personally. Good riddance to the sheeples. Here we stand together. So Merry Xmas & A Happy New Year to you all.  x

 

You love people like me, and I love people like you  💗

 

2021 is going to be shit. It'll be one hell of a ride. I certainly won't be submitting to anyone; even if it means arrest or fines. Went to an Aldi tonight, it was packed. Absolutely no-one else without a mask.  I felt like I was walking around naked. 

 

Made me really anxious to be fair -- but out of principal I walked through bear-faced. That's the way it's gotta be guys!

 

Nice guys finish last!

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On 12/22/2020 at 5:07 PM, numnuts said:

And, by the same token, the more emboldened and heavy-handed they will become.

WHO Deletes Naturally Acquired Immunity from Its Website

by Tyler Durden
Thursday, Dec 24, 2020 - 7:50

Authored by Jeffrey Tucker via The American Institute for Economic Research,

 

  • Coronavirus lived on surfaces until it didn’t.

  • Masks didn’t work until they did, then they did not.

  • There is asymptomatic transmission, except there isn’t.

  • Lockdowns work to control the virus except they do not.

  • All these people are sick without symptoms until, whoops, PCR tests are wildly inaccurate because they were never intended to be diagnostic tools.

  • Everyone is in danger of the virus except they aren’t.

  • It spreads in schools except it doesn’t. 

The World Health Organization, for reasons unknown, has suddenly changed its definition of a core conception of immunology: herd immunity.

 

Here is the website from June 9, 2020. You can see it here on Archive.org. You have to move down the page and click on the question about herd immunity. You see the following. 

Screen-Shot-2020-12-23-at-4.42.43-PM-800

 

However, in a screenshot dated November 13, 2020, we read the following note that somehow pretends as if human beings do not have immune systems at all but rather rely entirely on big pharma to inject things into our blood. 

 

Screen-Shot-2020-12-23-at-5.20.39-PM-800

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who-deletes-naturally-acquired-immunity-its-website

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2 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Bit weird saying this. But, Merry Christmas to my friends/family on here, even though I know none of you personally. Good riddance to the sheeples. Here we stand together. So Merry Xmas & A Happy New Year to you all.  x

 

You love people like me, and I love people like you  💗

 

2021 is going to be shit. It'll be one hell of a ride. I certainly won't be submitting to anyone; even if it means arrest or fines. Went to an Aldi tonight, it was packed. Absolutely no-one else without a mask.  I felt like I was walking around naked. 

 

Made me really anxious to be fair -- but out of principal I walked through bear-faced. That's the way it's gotta be guys!

 

Nice guys finish last!

Merry Xmas back at ya. 

I have a lanyard - previously went to supermarket with mask under chin in case a granny got close - didn’t want to stress her out. Then last Sunday I got abused by two shoppers in two separate incidence in the same Tesco’s. One followed me round having a go. The other had a go a few mins after and as he saw me in another isle he smacked his basket into my trolly. I lost it and shouted abuse and threatened to but him lol. I’m never aggressive but I think he was the straw from a very heavy bale. This tine with a lanyard - nada! It’s now my force shield. Like you I was the only unmasked in the whole store.  

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3 hours ago, alexa said:

 

If I’m ever in a situation like this I’m afraid I will just lose it! I can’t see me being rational when cops are so irrational. 

The fines they issue are paid to a private co run by cops! Maybe there’s less cars on the road for fines so their policeman’s ball is in jeopardy of falling over next year, so they have to raise funds via this?! Wankers! 

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Merry christmas my free friends

 

Has anyone made a list of all the foreknowledge events of this scam?

 

Event 201

Rothschild patent

JP Morgan banker warning in Jan 2020 on 4chan of economic down turn

Handcock working with pharma in February for sars-cov vaccine

jews stock piling ppe in early March, busted by FBI

 

What else?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:


lt's good to have something/someone to bounce off now and again IMO  :O)
 

 Myself, and plenty of other members I suspect, come here to get away from clowns like the two that joined earlier today.......We have nothing to do with their sort offline but because they are allowed to spout their nonsense here we are forced to engage in confrontational conversations with them.

And yes, I know there's an ignore button.

Mine's been working overtime for the last week.......we seem to be suddenly attracting more and more shills lately.

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What the latest news now proclaims is what I told friends weeks ago. The idea that microorganisms can be somehow "beaten off" by walking around with masks appears to ignore basic science. It would lead to mutations of bacteria in general. I also warned (as did others) that natural immunity would be weakened. The most basic biology I studied as far back as 1990 taught us bacteria is integral to life itself, as are flu viruses. Any biological system needs challenge in order to "adapt" at evolve (Darwin). Also, in reality, the idea microscopic bacteria can't adapt and bypass surgical masks is fantasy. The bottom line too is the authorities simply can't enforce the policy. Due to human nature, many of us will still contact other human beings, and animals. And bacteria. Clearly what this will lead to in the longer term is more virulent bacteria and societies with reduced immunity. As well as psychological deviations which time will unveil. Therefore, I maintain what we are witnessing is a global cult, masquerading behind a facade of State funded eco-science, pushed upon societies. It may sound harsh (much as I admired M.J) but wearing a face mask didn't do much good for Michael Jackson. After some years doing this he degraded physically and died prematurely.

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41 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

Merry christmas my free friends

 

Has anyone made a list of all the foreknowledge events of this scam?

 

Event 201

Rothschild patent

JP Morgan banker warning in Jan 2020 on 4chan of economic down turn

Handcock working with pharma in February for sars-cov vaccine

jews stock piling ppe in early March, busted by FBI

 

What else?

 

 

 

Preparations for a big extermination event to come was hinted at when back in the early 2000s they were stockpiling and storing hundreds of thousands of plastic containers big enough to hold 3 bodies each. At a loss to understand what other purpose they might serve it was assumed by many that these were to be used as caskets. This, as far as I'm concerned was my first evidence of a great horror to come.

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What I have no answer for is how to reverse the overall decline of education that finally provided fertile ground for pseudo-science. Personally, I believe the erosion of free education sent us backwards. So, 20 years ago, people would have challenged what's accepted today as gospel. It could prove very difficult to reverse the processes now taking place because younger people became conditioned to the way society now is. That is, they suffer high unemployment, no welfare system and pretty poor labour rights. Uni education isn't what it used to be and lagging in science. We have a very fertile ground for extremist ideology and third world dictatorship. Possibly to reverse the situation would require turning back the clock. Sadly history appears to show social and technological progress isn't a straight upward line, but a variable curve. We live in a new Dark Age where labour and money are the primary social pillars. Also worth considering how social media added to the decline in personal initiative and industry.

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5 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

What I have no answer for is how to reverse the overall decline of education that finally provided fertile ground for pseudo-science. Personally, I believe the erosion of free education sent us backwards. So, 20 years ago, people would have challenged what's accepted today as gospel. It could prove very difficult to reverse the processes now taking place because younger people became conditioned to the way society now is. That is, they suffer high unemployment, no welfare system and pretty poor labour rights. Uni education isn't what it used to be and lagging in science. We have a very fertile ground for extremist ideology and third world dictatorship. Possibly to reverse the situation would require turning back the clock. Sadly history appears to show social and technological progress isn't a straight upward line, but a variable curve. We live in a new Dark Age where labour and money are the primary social pillars. Also worth considering how social media added to the decline in personal initiative and industry.

As corrosion rusts away metal censorship in education has eroded the ability of those indoctrinated to consider all possibilities before making choices.

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49 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 Myself, and plenty of other members I suspect, come here to get away from clowns like the two that joined earlier today.......We have nothing to do with their sort offline but because they are allowed to spout their nonsense here we are forced to engage in confrontational conversations with them.

And yes, I know there's an ignore button.

Mine's been working overtime for the last week.......we seem to be suddenly attracting more and more shills lately.

Honestly I think these people have little chance of prevailing given the extraordinary amount of solid evidence and reasoning members to counter such attempts at subterfuge to be found here.

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6 hours ago, Not-me said:

 

You are repeating gossip. The steps taken to limit the spread of covid-19 are fairly effective in limiting the spread of influenza. I am just amazed that you think healthcare workers are not aware of the differences between flu and covid-19, because that is your implication. 

 

 

 

Between dancing in empty hospitals, and making TikTok videos, I don't know how they find the time.

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31 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

What I have no answer for is how to reverse the overall decline of education that finally provided fertile ground for pseudo-science. Personally, I believe the erosion of free education sent us backwards. So, 20 years ago, people would have challenged what's accepted today as gospel. It could prove very difficult to reverse the processes now taking place because younger people became conditioned to the way society now is. That is, they suffer high unemployment, no welfare system and pretty poor labour rights. Uni education isn't what it used to be and lagging in science. We have a very fertile ground for extremist ideology and third world dictatorship. Possibly to reverse the situation would require turning back the clock. Sadly history appears to show social and technological progress isn't a straight upward line, but a variable curve. We live in a new Dark Age where labour and money are the primary social pillars. Also worth considering how social media added to the decline in personal initiative and industry.

 

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On 12/23/2020 at 4:06 AM, Rolandson said:

Why does this vaccine not freeze? -70 degrees Celsius,it has to be frozen when it is a liquid. What is actually in it. 

http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=5889

 

I read this...it mentions Mercury, Carbon Dioxide and Ammonia. At the bottom it mention liquid Nitrogen for freezing cells. I am not a chemist but maybe someone has some suggestions?

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Interesting JRE podcast with two LA restaurant owners. They know something is wrong, but they're not quite grasping the full appalling nature of what's happening yet. Good to see people stirring though and good to see questions being asked on a show this big. Certainly seems like the Yanks are doing a bit better than us here in Europe, despite stereotypes about dumb Americans.

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