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3 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

 

 

 

This is what real men wear for protection against deadly viruses:

 

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So they wear these proper virus suits for Ebola, but not for Covid, why do you think that is?

 

Supply and demand. Plus, that is a once wear apparel and the chance of infection is high during removal, unless done in a controlled environment. They aren't very practical for extended use.

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18 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

The people who wear those pathetic face coverings who are frightened of the COVID virus are not sheep, but cabbages, sheep have more sense.

 

Needlessly confrontational nonsense.

 

18 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

There is this so-called dangerous killer virus in the air, which has been stated to be 0.3 microns in size and people are wearing flimsy 50p masks made in a Chinese or Indian sweatshop. 

 

The virus is not floating around like a free-radical. It invariably bonds to something and in terms of airborne particles, usually a fine droplet of mucus or saliva. THAT is what the mask stops and that is how it is effective. 

 

18 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

If you want protection from an airbourne virus one needs a suitable respirator with proper filters.  Budget versions are around £20 to £30, a quality respirator is going to cost from £80 upwards.

 

Yeah, except it can get on your respirator and then your hands when you take it off. The small masks work to a reasonable level of effectiveness. The objective is to bring down the R number not stop it entirely.

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2 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

 

Fuck me thats your reply?

 

 

Well yes. That is a ridiculous and unfeasible expense. It's ok for selective localised outbreaks, but for a pandemic it won't work unless you spend enormous amounts to create safe environments for dressing/undressing/disposal. 

 

Thanks for your detailed response.

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7 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

When damp they lessen oxygen level intake and raise CO2 levels in the blood / brain. Not good short term and very not good - long term.
 

 

Yep. Hate the things. Short bursts when coming into contact - at the shops, on buses, trains. That works, not for extended wear. God I couldn't do a shift at the hospital wearing one!

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10 minutes ago, Not-me said:

 

I've made other posts under my previous userid. You really should just shut up and stick to debate....YOU are causing the thread flow to stifle. The masks. The blue suits. Comment or be quiet?

 

 

 

 

You should stop wearing masks. They are affecting your cognition, evidently.  Maybe you need a covfefe.

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3 minutes ago, Not-me said:

The objective is to bring down the R number not stop it entirely.

 

Yes, let's bring down that R number, derived from bullshit testing, for a virus that kills blokes falling off ladders and leaves the other 99%+ so perfectly healthy they don't even know they have it. I'm excited! Let's go team. Let's do this!

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2 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

This might cheer you up a bit, as usual, the po-po are playing up with their usual shit instead of looking for proper crims, but this guy (who looks a little like Morpheus out of the matrix) just plays and owns the quite polite policeman with his positive vibe with charm and confidence, great guy doing his thing!  Worth a 15 minute watch.
In his words:
"I'm just here emitting my frequency!"

 

 

 

Thanks. I only watched a few minutes, but the guy knows his stuff. He talks about the City of London Rembrancer.

 

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The medieval, unaccountable Corporation of London is ripe for protest

It's the dark heart of Britain, the place where democracy goes to die, immensely powerful, equally unaccountable. But I doubt that one in 10 British people has any idea of what the Corporation of the City of London is and how it works.

 

As Nicholas Shaxson explains in his fascinating book Treasure Islands, the Corporation exists outside many of the laws and democratic controls which govern the rest of the United Kingdom. The City of London is the only part of Britain over which parliament has no authority. In one respect at least the Corporation acts as the superior body: it imposes on the House of Commons a figure called the remembrancer: an official lobbyist who sits behind the Speaker's chair and ensures that, whatever our elected representatives might think, the City's rights and privileges are protected. The mayor of London's mandate stops at the boundaries of the Square Mile.

 

Several governments have tried to democratise the City of London but all, threatened by its financial might, have failed. As Clement Attlee lamented, "over and over again we have seen that there is in this country another power than that which has its seat at Westminster."

 

The City has exploited this remarkable position to establish itself as a kind of offshore state, a secrecy jurisdiction which controls the network of tax havens housed in the UK's crown dependencies and overseas territories.

 

This autonomous state within our borders is in a position to launder the ill-gotten cash of oligarchs, kleptocrats, gangsters and drug barons. As the French investigating magistrate Eva Joly remarked, it "has never transmitted even the smallest piece of usable evidence to a foreign magistrate". It deprives the United Kingdom and other nations of their rightful tax receipts.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/corporation-london-city-medieval

 

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22 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

For me personally the problem is not so much wether a mask is effective or not. The main problem now is that if there is real pandemic it would be logical for 5he government to regulate the type of masks used. Clearly an enormous difference between all makes. Too much profiteering and not enough done to guarantee as much effectiveness as possible.

Also any mask is only as effective as it seal. The space around the nasal to mouth area with for example standardised paper type masks is quite large.

yet again if this is all real, the government should really be clamping down on profiteering over health protection.

 

The government/PTB don't want to end the pandemic emergency, their work on social change has not been completed. If it was a question of mask protection efficiency, we would have long since been in a situation of having respirators issued.  However, if everyone was wearing adequate PPE, even the sheep would smell a rat of cases still going up.

 

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2 minutes ago, Not-me said:

That's the nature of a virus and the variance of humanity. It affects people differently.


Darian is talking about the fact that any death by any means is a Convid death if the death is within 30 or so days of a positive test...( symptomatic or asymptomatic )
Ridiculous situation and makes the whole testing / numbers / cases / deaths complete and utter nonsense..

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9 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

The government/PTB don't want to end the pandemic emergency, their work on social change has not been completed. If it was a question of mask protection efficiency, we would have long since been in a situation of having respirators issued.  However, if everyone was wearing adequate PPE, even the sheep would smell a rat of cases still going up.

 

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Totally agree. Just using some logic to compare why the government do and don’t do things

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2 minutes ago, Not-me said:

do not expect you to suddenly alter your belief or believe one word of any of my posts, but that is exactly what the virus does. People don't die of a virus, they die of the thing it causes.

 

What the same as flu, which now doesn't cause any deaths? Actually doesn't exist anymore!

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2 minutes ago, Odie Hatzcats said:

 

What the same as flu, which now doesn't cause any deaths? Actually doesn't exist anymore!

 

You are repeating gossip. The steps taken to limit the spread of covid-19 are fairly effective in limiting the spread of influenza. I am just amazed that you think healthcare workers are not aware of the differences between flu and covid-19, because that is your implication. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Not-me said:

 

Blow me down with a turnip, Einstein has entered the building.

 

Truegroup/Rupert/Carlos/Comedy Time and a dozen others all banned. I'm surprised they are letting me play for a while.

Meanwhile, the actual content.....? Not-me making ad hominems. Not-me making stupid comments unless by way of reply.

 

Great screen-name huh?

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Not-me said:

 

You are repeating gossip. The steps taken to limit the spread of covid-19 are fairly effective in limiting the spread of influenza. I am just amazed that you think healthcare workers are not aware of the differences between flu and covid-19, because that is your implication. 

 

 

 

Wrong.

 

"Because some of the symptoms of flu and COVID-19 are similar, it may be hard to tell the difference between them based on symptoms alone, and testing may be needed to help confirm a diagnosis. Flu and COVID-19 share many characteristics, but there are some key differences between the two"

 

And the unreliable tests?

Similarities:

Both COVID-19 and flu can have varying degrees of signs and symptoms, ranging from no symptoms (asymptomatic) to severe symptoms. Common symptoms that COVID-19 and flu share include:

  • Fever or feeling feverish/chills
  • Cough
  • Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
  • Fatigue (tiredness)
  • Sore throat
  • Runny or stuffy nose
  • Muscle pain or body aches
  • Headache
  • Some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Not-me said:

 

Old Mactruther had a farm, e i e i o.

With an ad hominem here, an ad hominem there, here a sodding ad hominem, there yet another one....blah blah.

 

You people must really be afraid to have your views challenged. Shut me up with argument.

Insults and stuff just make me laugh.

 

Have you run out of a medication by any chance? Are you on whizz?

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My whole gripe about masks is based on the approach. Democracies where freedom is valued "explain" and try to encourage measures where a crisis is assumed. Personally I respect the obvious fear some people have so I avoid causing upset to them. Many are terrified. However, what's wrong is the actual contempt shown by governments for personal choice and freedom. Trying to force untested vaccinations as well as fining people for meeting with others. Dictating our life and even censoring views of those who disagree with obligatory vaccination. Apparently this goes as far as removal of arguments that oppose orthodox ideology - it targets many highly qualified researchers as well as worried parents. As I say, democracies recommend and seek public co-operation. Democracies don't fine, intimidate or force people into submission by fear. My grandad before he died fought in WW2 to save future generations from what people now appear to accept as "normal". I think it's saddening to see so many people losing what former generations fought to secure them.

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