Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[smashstuff]

Just now, Not-me said:

 

What exactly is your fear here? It's almost as though your puny responses are trying to stop me posting becase you don't like being questioned. Shut me up with argument. If you have to target me personally, try and imagine how much of the tiniest rat's bottom I could give about your opinions.

 

 

I have no fear of you.  I have a problem with obvious government shills pretending they've come to this forum just to ask questions. 

 

You're a liar who signed up just over an hour ago and goes on about 'claims'.  This thread is 679 pages long with loads of shit going on, and you're acting like a typical 'hey I'm just here to discuss and find things out', but with a strong bias towards the established narrative.  You're a fraud.

[FrankVitali]

 

 

 

This is what real men wear for protection against deadly viruses:

 

 

 

 

 

So they wear these proper virus suits for Ebola, but not for Covid, why do you think that is?

[Ziggy Sawdust]

                           

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[Not-me]

4 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

For me personally the problem is not so much wether a mask is effective or not. The main problem now is that if there is real pandemic it would be logical for 5he government to regulate the type of masks used. Clearly an enormous difference between all makes. Too much profiteering and not enough done to guarantee as much effectiveness as possible.

Also any mask is only as effective as it seal. The space around the nasal to mouth area with for example standardised paper type masks is quite large.

yet again if this is all real, the government should really be clamping down on profiteering over health protection.

 

I don't disagree with any of that. I've seen too many mask wearers wearing blue masks caked in a thousand times worn shite.

[Not-me]

Just now, Ziggy Sawdust said:

                           

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 Nope, I was talking about masks. Most of the derailing is coming from idiotic comments like yours and my stubbornness in wanting to reply. Try getting back to masks.

[smashstuff]

Just now, Ziggy Sawdust said:

                           

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yeah, I'm gonna stop replying to 'it'.

[Not-me]

3 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

 

 

 

This is what real men wear for protection against deadly viruses:

 

 

 

 

 

So they wear these proper virus suits for Ebola, but not for Covid, why do you think that is?

 

Supply and demand. Plus, that is a once wear apparel and the chance of infection is high during removal, unless done in a controlled environment. They aren't very practical for extended use.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

1 minute ago, Not-me said:

The masks

 

When damp they lessen oxygen level intake and raise CO2 levels in the blood / brain. Not good short term and very not good - long term.
 

[FrankVitali]

4 minutes ago, Not-me said:

 

Supply and demand. Plus, that is a once wear apparel and the chance of infection is high during removal, unless done in a controlled environment. They aren't very practical for extended use.

 

 

Fuck me thats your reply?

 

 

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

14 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

This is what real men wear for protection against deadly viruses:

So this isn't for kinky sexy-sexy time ?
l've been lied to.
:O(

[Not-me]

18 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

The people who wear those pathetic face coverings who are frightened of the COVID virus are not sheep, but cabbages, sheep have more sense.

 

Needlessly confrontational nonsense.

 

18 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

There is this so-called dangerous killer virus in the air, which has been stated to be 0.3 microns in size and people are wearing flimsy 50p masks made in a Chinese or Indian sweatshop. 

 

The virus is not floating around like a free-radical. It invariably bonds to something and in terms of airborne particles, usually a fine droplet of mucus or saliva. THAT is what the mask stops and that is how it is effective. 

 

18 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

If you want protection from an airbourne virus one needs a suitable respirator with proper filters.  Budget versions are around £20 to £30, a quality respirator is going to cost from £80 upwards.

 

Yeah, except it can get on your respirator and then your hands when you take it off. The small masks work to a reasonable level of effectiveness. The objective is to bring down the R number not stop it entirely.

[Not-me]

2 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

 

Fuck me thats your reply?

 

 

Well yes. That is a ridiculous and unfeasible expense. It's ok for selective localised outbreaks, but for a pandemic it won't work unless you spend enormous amounts to create safe environments for dressing/undressing/disposal. 

 

Thanks for your detailed response.

[Not-me]

7 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

When damp they lessen oxygen level intake and raise CO2 levels in the blood / brain. Not good short term and very not good - long term.
 

 

Yep. Hate the things. Short bursts when coming into contact - at the shops, on buses, trains. That works, not for extended wear. God I couldn't do a shift at the hospital wearing one!

[FrankVitali]

10 minutes ago, Not-me said:

 

I've made other posts under my previous userid. You really should just shut up and stick to debate....YOU are causing the thread flow to stifle. The masks. The blue suits. Comment or be quiet?

 

 

 

 

You should stop wearing masks. They are affecting your cognition, evidently.  Maybe you need a covfefe.

[DarianF]

3 minutes ago, Not-me said:

The objective is to bring down the R number not stop it entirely.

 

Yes, let's bring down that R number, derived from bullshit testing, for a virus that kills blokes falling off ladders and leaves the other 99%+ so perfectly healthy they don't even know they have it. I'm excited! Let's go team. Let's do this!

[Sidlittle]

55 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

How are the pay rates and benefits in the Brigade? Just curious.

I hear they are ok but you might end up working Christmas Eve though  

[Golden Retriever]

2 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

This might cheer you up a bit, as usual, the po-po are playing up with their usual shit instead of looking for proper crims, but this guy (who looks a little like Morpheus out of the matrix) just plays and owns the quite polite policeman with his positive vibe with charm and confidence, great guy doing his thing!  Worth a 15 minute watch.
In his words:
"I'm just here emitting my frequency!"

 

 

 

Thanks. I only watched a few minutes, but the guy knows his stuff. He talks about the City of London Rembrancer.

 

 

The medieval, unaccountable Corporation of London is ripe for protest

It's the dark heart of Britain, the place where democracy goes to die, immensely powerful, equally unaccountable. But I doubt that one in 10 British people has any idea of what the Corporation of the City of London is and how it works.

 

As Nicholas Shaxson explains in his fascinating book Treasure Islands, the Corporation exists outside many of the laws and democratic controls which govern the rest of the United Kingdom. The City of London is the only part of Britain over which parliament has no authority. In one respect at least the Corporation acts as the superior body: it imposes on the House of Commons a figure called the remembrancer: an official lobbyist who sits behind the Speaker's chair and ensures that, whatever our elected representatives might think, the City's rights and privileges are protected. The mayor of London's mandate stops at the boundaries of the Square Mile.

 

Several governments have tried to democratise the City of London but all, threatened by its financial might, have failed. As Clement Attlee lamented, "over and over again we have seen that there is in this country another power than that which has its seat at Westminster."

 

The City has exploited this remarkable position to establish itself as a kind of offshore state, a secrecy jurisdiction which controls the network of tax havens housed in the UK's crown dependencies and overseas territories.

 

This autonomous state within our borders is in a position to launder the ill-gotten cash of oligarchs, kleptocrats, gangsters and drug barons. As the French investigating magistrate Eva Joly remarked, it "has never transmitted even the smallest piece of usable evidence to a foreign magistrate". It deprives the United Kingdom and other nations of their rightful tax receipts.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/corporation-london-city-medieval

 

[Orange Alert]

22 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

For me personally the problem is not so much wether a mask is effective or not. The main problem now is that if there is real pandemic it would be logical for 5he government to regulate the type of masks used. Clearly an enormous difference between all makes. Too much profiteering and not enough done to guarantee as much effectiveness as possible.

Also any mask is only as effective as it seal. The space around the nasal to mouth area with for example standardised paper type masks is quite large.

yet again if this is all real, the government should really be clamping down on profiteering over health protection.

 

The government/PTB don't want to end the pandemic emergency, their work on social change has not been completed. If it was a question of mask protection efficiency, we would have long since been in a situation of having respirators issued.  However, if everyone was wearing adequate PPE, even the sheep would smell a rat of cases still going up.

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

2 minutes ago, Not-me said:

That's the nature of a virus and the variance of humanity. It affects people differently.

Darian is talking about the fact that any death by any means is a Convid death if the death is within 30 or so days of a positive test...( symptomatic or asymptomatic )
Ridiculous situation and makes the whole testing / numbers / cases / deaths complete and utter nonsense..

[Bombadil]

9 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

The government/PTB don't want to end the pandemic emergency, their work on social change has not been completed. If it was a question of mask protection efficiency, we would have long since been in a situation of having respirators issued.  However, if everyone was wearing adequate PPE, even the sheep would smell a rat of cases still going up.

 

Totally agree. Just using some logic to compare why the government do and don’t do things

[Odie Hatzcats]

2 minutes ago, Not-me said:

do not expect you to suddenly alter your belief or believe one word of any of my posts, but that is exactly what the virus does. People don't die of a virus, they die of the thing it causes.

 

What the same as flu, which now doesn't cause any deaths? Actually doesn't exist anymore!

[Not-me]

2 minutes ago, Odie Hatzcats said:

 

What the same as flu, which now doesn't cause any deaths? Actually doesn't exist anymore!

 

You are repeating gossip. The steps taken to limit the spread of covid-19 are fairly effective in limiting the spread of influenza. I am just amazed that you think healthcare workers are not aware of the differences between flu and covid-19, because that is your implication. 

 

 

[Odie Hatzcats]

1 minute ago, Not-me said:

healthcare workers are not aware of the differences between flu and covid-19, because that is your implication. 

 

 

No, most of them have been told to say NOTHING and those who do get sacked!

 

[BridgeBuilder]

May be he has been released from jail for Christmas as prisoners were to be released from prison per news/hearsay. He must have been dying to visit the forum. *cough*

 

He definitely has a distinctive posting style.

[wingwang]

1 minute ago, Not-me said:

 

Blow me down with a turnip, Einstein has entered the building.

 

Truegroup/Rupert/Carlos/Comedy Time and a dozen others all banned. I'm surprised they are letting me play for a while.

Meanwhile, the actual content.....? Not-me making ad hominems. Not-me making stupid comments unless by way of reply.

 

Great screen-name huh?