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2 hours ago, zArk said:

i agree yet these people are grown ups, they vote, they work/have worked, they have every opportunity to ask questions, use the internet, read around the issue

 

really it is their decision 

oh i did. they have been poisoning people and killing them for decades with poor treatments , malpractice and cheapest options. i say 'eff' the nhs as an institution. i think at least 15% of people i know have been scarred, maimed or left with life long medical conditons due to 'accidents'  and its all hushed up with money and agreements

 

As the day has gone on I am starting to think you are right and it’s time consuming and energy draining trying to convince people otherwise. I might just sit back and watch it unfold. 

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Just to point out the communists got a lot wrong but they had a certain edge over the current Covid outlook. The communists offered free housing and education and a Party career. Covid ideology offers nothing. You recall the old saying: You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time. However, you can't fool all of the people all of the time. So far Covid ideology has remained negative and destructive. Stalinism did use similar tactics but managed to operate in a functional society. From what I see and hear on the street most people oppose vaccination and also come across as very concerned (to put it mildly).

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4 minutes ago, Velma said:

French nationals, people living in France and those with a legitimate reason will have to be carrying a negative test," French transport minister Jean-Baptiste Djebarri said, before they can enter the country. Tests first, vaccines next!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55418565

 

Bloody hell. This will set a precedent if approved by the French Parliament.

 

We have to resist. Support the anti Vaxxers in France.

 

"People who fail to get a Covid-19 vaccination could be banned from using public transport in France, according to a draft law which has sparked angry protests from opposition politicians."

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9079739/Public-transport-ban-anti-vaxxers-France.html

 

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From the Guardian...

7m ago21:45

Eurotunnel said only pre-booked passengers who had already tested negative for Covid-19 should go to its terminal, as France reopens its borders to travellers from the UK.

“From 23:00hrs on 22/12/2020, to travel to France passengers will need:

  • A negative result from a Covid-19 test accepted by the French government
  • Taken in the last 72 hours
  • An email or SMS certificate issued by the testing facility.

“Please ensure you meet the French government’s criteria before travelling to our terminal.

“There is no Covid-19 testing facility at Eurotunnel. Go to our website to book or amend tickets. Please do not arrive without a booking as we are fully booked.”

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I think with vaccines what has me concerned is banks. I'm already expecting employment and social welfare "levering". In employment the employers will be possibly encouraged to insist upon a vaccine. The Government can then still claim vaccine is voluntary but the rest is up to employers. As to welfare this might be affected too - I tend to assume the worst case scenario to be better prepared.
Banks again is a possibility in months to come. Sure it's a depressing outlook and may well not reach such extremes. However, if it does all I can say is I was in Russia back in 1992 where there was no food in the shops and very high crime. I survived. Many people also coped with 1930s New York and the great depression. We have been programmed to think we need to follow a system to survive but the question is does that system have anything to offer? Funnily enough a bank employee questioned me about my medical past and Covid. I told her I haven't been ill for 3 years - and that was gastro-enteritis.

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There's coersion going on. "No" should suffice. Answering "why?" might cause offence so "It's my own business.". Any "I'm making it my business!" should generate a voluntary agreement by the person in your face to be your guinea pig. Have a procedure in place to provide help and assistance to those who want in on your business. If they want to take over your business, walk away, its their business. If they escalate offences, do what the ancestors always did when reason and peaceable posture failed. These are crimes so serious that nations signed treaties to bind themselves to mutually protect each other if these types of crimes began being committed by governments. Netherlans has been the genocide centre of Europe for over a decade while the media said little. This is not a theory, these are mass murderers.

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48 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Yep, it took just 9 months and not a shot was fired.

Their weapon of choice was the thickness of 95% of the populace.

It's bordering on aloof self grandeur saying things like that when all you're basing it on is your experience.

 

You heard no doubt a few times in your lifetime how back in their day people were friendlier, more sharing, smarter or at least had more common sense, had more moral integrity faith etc as I and most will have done once or twice. It seems that the older I get the more I believe it. Which may or may not have been by design all along instead of just being personal aging nostalgia - however.

 

The absolute ignorance and submission to this scary fairytale that will ultimately reduce everyone left to jellyfish, or perhaps a better analogy would be worker bees - as if we all weren't halfway there already before this grab that took less than a year - truthfully surprised and cemented it for me. So, I suppose my opening statement was critical but ultimately I agree with you. LOL

 

This ought to be played every hour on BBC hell maybe it is already not like I'd know, what do I know. Maybe there's a killer virus after all and licking your hands clean after a pack of wotsits, after pushing a shopping trolley around morrisons and NOT disenfecting it, NOT washing your hands before inbetween or after actually negates it..

 

 

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So apparently Aberdeen Royal Infirmary is filled with covid patients and ambulances are having to wait.

I waited to question this and have asked several staff who I know and they confirmed there are no beds available, it's chaotic.

 

Hmm!!

 

So sounds like folk are being hospitalised for the flu to make it look worse than it is.

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24 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

I'm out of likes. 👍

 

Thank you - it a shame words are not contemplated and comprehended in their meaning and power or how in turn meaning reflects on volition.

 

The gravity of ignorance is of such consequence that to the masses, it is unimaginable.

Hard to believe the gift of the internet was in everyones grasp and they did not understand the meaning of the word plight or ever delve into and through history.

 

Please archive what is important to you.

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What we need to be aware in the UK is that they are now trying to change the Human Rights which we are not discussing so far. Whatever changes they are making, it won't be good for us and we may not be able to say it's discrimination. One to watch out for. I'm sure there are some barristers who are looking into it though.

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1 hour ago, allymisfit said:

So apparently Aberdeen Royal Infirmary is filled with covid patients and ambulances are having to wait.

I waited to question this and have asked several staff who I know and they confirmed there are no beds available, it's chaotic.

 

Hmm!!

 

So sounds like folk are being hospitalised for the flu to make it look worse than it is.

Remember.  Beds are always short or non existent in our underfunded nhs this time of year. They've also removed 10000 beds from the system for covid spacing 'reasons.' Staff are having to isolate if they get a cough or cold having previously been forced to work unless actually dying

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2 minutes ago, kj35 said:

Remember.  Beds are always short or non existent in our underfunded nhs this time of year. They've also removed 10000 beds from the system for covid spacing 'reasons.' Staff are having to isolate if they get a cough or cold having previously been forced to work unless actually dying

Ooh that's a good point! 

The media is totally milking it here.

 

Thanks :D 

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