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10 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

New strain? It sounds like a mega medical term but "somatovegetative" nervous system means nervous reaction produces physical symptoms. Simple example, phobic stress = upset stomach. Headaches, palpitations, fever, acidic reactions can definitely be caused by anxiety. 

Here's where I disagree with modern medicine: Usually the approach used is based on biology but ignores neurology. Simple example: You have an upset stomach due to anxiety. You can choose to take a tablet and focus on the physical, biological symptoms. You can also choose to address the specific cause - a neurological condition. 

In the case of the covid vaccine, all research has been based on pure biology. Abnormal somatic processes visible in a lab. What little research is available on mass psychogenic hysteria has indeed been accepted as very valid by official medical organisations. Yet it was acknowledged with a shrug. 

My point: Treating just physical symptoms can cause the symptoms to morph and surface more aggressively. Behind the covid crisis I think lies a deeper, underlying cause because there is indeed mass hysteria. Of course I don't deny the reality of basic bacterial infection which exists but many neurologists in the USSR recorded an overlap. That is, many current diagnoses of covid may be psychosomatic and often just a strain of flu. In all cases panic is the worst possible approach.

I agree.  It is an interesting area. Anxieties cause inflammation which causes the symptoms. 

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Heard on radio on way home from work, the death toll in the U.K has now reached 67,616. The infection rate in London is doubling every 6 days. All on 21/12---2+1+1+2=6. An awful lot of 6es about today. Also heard Johnson say we can look forward to a very different world in this country after Easter. Read into that what you will. To me that sounds very ominous. All on the darkest day of the year. Saturn and Jupiter in alignment. As D.I has said it's no accident Saturn sounds like Satan. And today is the day the ancients celebrated SATANalia.

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1 minute ago, Liberty said:

I agree.  It is an interesting area. Anxieties cause inflammation which causes the symptoms. 

My guess is there is an actual virus but we know symptoms can have biological or neurological cause. Or both! After some years now buried in neurology research, I tend to recognise anxiety when I see it. That is, the way people draw away from you, or fidget. Mostly I worry what damage it's doing to childrens' mental health. They are being taught to fear social contact. Likewise I see children in large groups chatting after school with no masks which shows you will never stop human beings interacting. I believe bacteria will always be part of life and impossible to eliminate. Governments can't police so many millions of people. We so need to develop our own immunity to bacteria which is why I oppose quick fix vaccines. After months of extremist, repressive measures governments so far can't boast of any actual success. They appear not to understand the most basic laws of science. Attempts to capitalise on mass fear amongst the public may well backfire. 

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54 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Dropping little seeds of information is better than lots in one go too. People like to think they came to the conclusions themselves. No one likes to have views pushed onto them.   

 

Yes I've found that too, pick your battles and if you don't think someone is completely open just ask them if they don't find certain things a little bit strange and leave it at that. 

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3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

changing your self internally doesn't change the whole of the exterior reality

 

it needs enough people to change because we create this reality in aggregate

 

if we had enough people who understood the imperative of not giving away our personal freedoms like this the world would be a very different place

 

There is always a timeline switch in a multiverse. ;)

 

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23 minutes ago, banjo dog said:

Heard on radio on way home from work, the death toll in the U.K has now reached 67,616. The infection rate in London is doubling every 6 days. All on 21/12---2+1+1+2=6. An awful lot of 6es about today. Also heard Johnson say we can look forward to a very different world in this country after Easter. Read into that what you will. To me that sounds very ominous. All on the darkest day of the year. Saturn and Jupiter in alignment. As D.I has said it's no accident Saturn sounds like Satan. And today is the day the ancients celebrated SATANalia.


What treats do you think lie in store for us post Easter? Mandatory quarantine?

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The state of affair this evening....

 

Dale Winton has been at it again. The game is ON! Has he been to your area?

All the veg has been cleared out!! Thin on pasta stock as well. Of course, I headed to the booze section first and that wasn't so bad. I know it's Christmas 'n' all but nobody is inviting anybody so where did all the veg go?

Usually it isn't like this till 23/24th.

 

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Strangely, I noticed changes amongst birds locally. Tweeting in mass at 11.00 pm. Very odd. And then tweeting as normal at 4.00 am.

On a practical level, I'm concerned over banks. Been finding it hard to access accounts with endless demands for more and more I.D. I guess what bothers me is the possibility of access to banks being tied into vaccine certificates. I already prepared for possible employment or social welfare restrictions. Guess I'd rather over-react than end up in limbo.

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7 minutes ago, BridgeBuilder said:

The state of affair this evening....

 

Dale Winton has been at it again. The game is ON! Has he been to your area?

All the veg has been cleared out!! Thin on pasta stock as well. Of course, I headed to the booze section first and that wasn't so bad. I know it's Christmas 'n' all but nobody is inviting anybody so where did all the veg go?

Usually it isn't like this till 23/24th.

 

 

The thought of where did Dale Winton's cucumber go... 

 

Sorry, I'm getting all Carry On...!

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3 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

We are now officially in an open prison.

Even an Island............Papillon revisited.

All planned long ago too.

 

You are right! They are even talking about releasing prisoners so that they won't get infected?! Think about that logic..... 🤔 May be they are considering all the peados, cereal killers and bike thieves to be released in the wild so that the lockdown breakers could be put in them?

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2 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

The Metropolitan Police's war on opinions | Case Study

 

 

 

From one of the salient YT comments:

 

John Reginald Christie

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the police pulled this stunt in communist spain 1934, but when franco retook power back by 1939, he jailed over 45,000 former officers. some senior officers were executed. dont think they will get away with it do you...

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Shining-one said:

New strain? It sounds like a mega medical term but "somatovegetative" nervous system means nervous reaction produces physical symptoms. Simple example, phobic stress = upset stomach. Headaches, palpitations, fever, acidic reactions can definitely be caused by anxiety. 

Here's where I disagree with modern medicine: Usually the approach used is based on biology but ignores neurology. Simple example: You have an upset stomach due to anxiety. You can choose to take a tablet and focus on the physical, biological symptoms. You can also choose to address the specific cause - a neurological condition. 

In the case of the covid vaccine, all research has been based on pure biology. Abnormal somatic processes visible in a lab. What little research is available on mass psychogenic hysteria has indeed been accepted as very valid by official medical organisations. Yet it was acknowledged with a shrug. 

My point: Treating just physical symptoms can cause the symptoms to morph and surface more aggressively. Behind the covid crisis I think lies a deeper, underlying cause because there is indeed mass hysteria. Of course I don't deny the reality of basic bacterial infection which exists but many neurologists in the USSR recorded an overlap. That is, many current diagnoses of covid may be psychosomatic and often just a strain of flu. In all cases panic is the worst possible approach.

Dr Hamer - German new medicine includes that approach too. Interesting area.

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54 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

Strangely, I noticed changes amongst birds locally. Tweeting in mass at 11.00 pm. Very odd. And then tweeting as normal at 4.00 am.

 

 

So weird that you wrote this, as for the last 4 nights or so, I have been woken up by birds tweeting really loudly around 1am ish. I live in the countryside and so I am used to all the normal sounds at night, but this was unusual enough for me to take note on what was happening. No idea if it means anything - probably not - but it was strange nevertheless!

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