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41 minutes ago, Odie Hatzcats said:

Posted 20th Dec

 

URGENT News about the Covid-19 Vaccine!!! (Dr. Vernon Coleman)

 

 

 

 

Link to the report

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf

 

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Just want to stress this part -- 3,150 out of 112,807 -->
UNABLE TO PERFORM NORMAL DAILY DUTIES, UNABLE TO WORK, REQUIRED CARE FORM DOCTOR OR HEALTH PROFESSIONAL...


 

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1. The process used for COVID testing has always been deemed “an invention”, as it was never qualified as a test. This invention is called PCR, standing for polymerase chain reaction. 2. The inventor of PCR, Kary B. Mullis, said “these PCR tests cannot detect infectious free viruses at all.” That’s direct from the inventor of PCR. 3. The PCR was invented to merely have bits of genetic material in a sample multiply until those small broken pieces were numerous enough to see under a microscope. PCR just helps scientists observe small things in greater quantity. Where those bits of genetic material came from, what they do, do they make people sick etc…..the PCR process is not involved in that determination what so ever. 4. In order to finger any virus as the cause of someone’s illness, the entire virus (the complete genetic sequence) must be isolated in its entirety. This has not yet been done with COVID 19. This is correct. No complete virus has yet to be isolated and that’s supposed to be the first step before any other steps are taken in such a process that ends with a viral declaration…let alone a pandemic declaration. 5. In order to finger any virus as the cause of someone’s illness, the entire virus (which has never been isolated for COVID) must be transferred over to another animal or human host…..and that virus MUST cause the exact same illness in the host. This has not yet been done with COVID-19. The COVID19 virus has not yet been proven to cause disease, person to person. Why are these steps being bypassed? 6. In order to finger any virus as the cause of someone’s illness, the entire virus (which has never been isolated for COVID-19) must not only infect the host with the exact same disease, you must also find the complete genetic viral sequence in the infected tissue of the host and then re-isolate the entire genetic sequence from infected tissues of the host. This has not yet been done with COVID-19. Disease transmission person to person, has not been proven for COVID-19. This is the easiest criteria to organize yet it remains undone. 7. In order to finger any virus as the cause of someone’s illness, you must also have a control group, so you can make sure that what you call a virus isn’t just regular human genetic material, shared by all humans. If you find the exact same 80% genetic material strand in the samples of HEALTHY CONTROLS, what you’re looking at CAN’T be the cause of the disease because it’s just regular genetic material found in all humans…both sick and healthy. In order to finger any virus as the cause of someone’s illness, you need to find that particular complete viral sequence IN THE SICK ONLY and not in the healthy. This has not yet been done for COVID-19. Why is the gold standard of testing (having a control group) being bypassed? 8. In the case of COVID-19, scientists have indeed found a string of genetic material (not a complete sequence) that shares 80% similarities with SARS-COVID (a sequence said to cause SARS) and therefore the original Chinese scientists have declared that this string of material reflects a COVID infection. (but also did that without testing any healthy people, to see if healthy people also have the same genetic material) Humans share 97% genetic material with chimpanzees, 80% genetic material with cats and 50% genetic material with a banana and that’s why shared genetic material IS NEVER the standard used to diagnose any disease. This is why the Tanzanian President recently found positive PCR results when he secretly tested a goat, fruit and motor oil….because most things on earth share similar genetic sequences. We share 61% genetic material with fruit flies and 85% genetic material with mice. Shared material is never good enough to declare anything as concrete in real science. To declare viral disease you always need a full 100% viral genetic match to a past 100% viral genetic sequence in the past. This so far has not been done for COVID19. Why? 9. The PCR INVENTION shouldn’t be used as a way to diagnose any disease because it’s simply designed to make small bits of genetic material more visible under a microscope. Those small bits were always designed to be studied, not to conclude disease or no disease, winners or losers, black or white, go home or go to “a camp” etc. Where that genetic material comes from (from you or from a large number of friendly organisms that live inside you) in no way reflects if that genetic material is making you sick. This is why the PCR process has already been shown (in its current misused way) to declare 8 out of 10 people positive with COVID, when they’re perfectly healthy. Out of 10 people in a COVID testing area, 8 will be told they have COVID, 2 will not…..and there’s absolutely no basis to any of those declarations what so ever. The PCR can’t test for COVID, it never could and the inventor said so. So why are we using it? 10. This is the testing process being used to remove children from their parents, remove adults from their homes, destroy the economy, shut down the food supply, enforce martial law, destroy civil liberties, criminalize normal human activity and force an untested vaccine onto the public, while government officials have inserted into mandates (which are not laws) that both govenrment officials and vaccine companies are not legally responsible for any “failures” in this system where citizens are killed or injured,…..all the while knowing that the COVID death and infection figures (and the testing) are already proven fraudulent. https://bit.ly/2ztPLj4 Are you ready to go bankrupt based on COVID death numbers proven to be fabricated by government and media? Are you ready to have a child removed from your care based on a test that’s proven completely fraudulent? Are you willing to take an untested vaccine, while giving full legal immunity for death and permanent injury (and future cancers/auto immunity diseases etc) to govenrment officials and vaccine makers, based on fabricated death and infection numbers plus a fraudulent testing process?

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2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Other illness hospital admissions falling in London as covid increases.

 

https://twitter.com/C0vid0/status/1340602230777520128?s=20

I heard one commentator talk about the hospital beds situation this morning - they were saying that total number of people in hospital is the same as normal - a lot of the issues is a management issue - in the sense that hospitals are being clogged not by patient numbers which are the same - but because of additional duties and management regulations surrounding dividing the hospitals into covid and non covid secure places. Compounded by the fact that many staff are forced to stay at home because they are testing positive. So she was essentially saying that it  is covid regulations that are causing concern for hospitals in terms of the possibility of them being overwhelmed rather than them being overwhelmed because an increase in people being ill.

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My family all supposed togo around to my Mams for Xmas dinner. My bros daughter recently had a serious operation, hes asking all the family to take a test. He was one of those portable ones, something you leave up your nose for a few mins according to my Mam, would that be a lateral flow test ? Im not well up on test types. Havent told my wife yet, wont be pleased. Anyway presumably we can stage them ourselves if we are going to be "performing" them at home. Could only imagine my familys opinion of us if they knew that 

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Just now, Mr H said:

I heard one commentator talk about the hospital beds situation this morning - they were saying that total number of people in hospital is the same as normal - a lot of the issues is a management issue - in the sense that hospitals are being clogged not by patient numbers which are the same - but because of additional duties and management regulations surrounding dividing the hospitals into covid and non covid secure places. Compounded by the fact that many staff are forced to stay at home because they are testing positive. So she was essentially saying that it  is covid regulations that are causing concern for hospitals in terms of the possibility of them being overwhelmed rather than them being overwhelmed because an increase in people being ill.

 

How many of them patients were admitted for covid or tested positive for covid once admitted.

 

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3 minutes ago, owen said:

My family all supposed togo around to my Mams for Xmas dinner. My bros daughter recently had a serious operation, hes asking all the family to take a test. He was one of those portable ones, something you leave up your nose for a few mins according to my Mam, would that be a lateral flow test ? Im not well up on test types. Havent told my wife yet, wont be pleased. Anyway presumably we can stage them ourselves if we are going to be "performing" them at home. Could only imagine my familys opinion of us if they knew that 

 

The tests are a scam.

Show them this.

 

 

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Just when you think things can't get any worse, they do. We now live on a Prison Island with a deadly new “contagion” running amok! We are being quarantined like lepers.

 

The government's biggest fear is that supplies of food and even the COVID vaccine could be hit because French hauliers will not travel to the UK if they cannot return home.

 

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said the travel chaos "won't have an impact on the vaccination programme.” That must be a priority over food and other supplies..

 

Rod McKenzie, from the Road Haulage Association said, "Brexit stockpiling is one thing, the Christmas rush is another thing, but the absolute hammer blow now is to close the borders for 48 hours. That is a serious disruption of the all important supply chain.”

 

If ports shut for longer than the current two days, some foodstuffs will run out in just a couple of weeks. But the backlog of deliveries has already begun.

 

Shadow international trade minister Bill Esterson added: "Flights stopped. Ferry ports closed. Eurotunnel shut. If anyone was in any doubt about how serious this crisis was, then wake up."

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Whether or not there is a new variant is open to debate. I personally doubt it.

 

But if there is, then I wonder if there a possible correlation between many of the vaccine trial participants for Pfizer taking place in Brazil and this article in the Telegraph today ...........

 

"The Covid mutation feared to have "supercharged" the new strain of the virus first emerged in Brazil more than eight months ago, scientists have revealed.

 

Studies show that the mutation, called N501Y, was spotted in the South American country in April, before later rearing its head again in Australia and the US"

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/supercharged-covid-mutation-spotted-brazil-last-spring/

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4 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Whether or not there is a new variant is open to debate. I personally doubt it.

 

But if there is, then I wonder if there a possible correlation between many of the vaccine trial participants for Pfizer taking place in Brazil and this article in the Telegraph today ...........

 

"The Covid mutation feared to have "supercharged" the new strain of the virus first emerged in Brazil more than eight months ago, scientists have revealed.

 

Studies show that the mutation, called N501Y, was spotted in the South American country in April, before later rearing its head again in Australia and the US"

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/supercharged-covid-mutation-spotted-brazil-last-spring/

 

Not once this whole year did the all powerful government close the borders and yet they have destroyed the lives of millions of people, while allowing all these variants from around the world allowed in? 

 

No evidence variants are more contagious than any other variant. This is nothing more than a new scare tactic. 

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19818-2

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29 minutes ago, Velma said:

Shadow international trade minister Bill Esterson added: "Flights stopped. Ferry ports closed. Eurotunnel shut. If anyone was in any doubt about how serious this crisis was, then wake up."

What about the illegals crossing the channel in dinghies and what have you? Will they be denied entry? Somehow, I doubt it.

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52 minutes ago, Velma said:

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said the travel chaos "won't have an impact on the vaccination programme.” That must be a priority over food and other supplies..

 

The COVID vaccine trumps everything, even food. It does not matter if you starve to death as long as you can get the jab.

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2 hours ago, Mr H said:

Meeting minutes from the nervetag meeting which lead up to the tier 4. Ol friend Neil Ferguson on the board!

 

NERVTAG meeting minutes on SARS-CoV-2 variant under investigation. 18 December (khub.net)

 

The man who gets all the projections wrong and twice broke HIS OWN RULES, WHEN

HE ALLOWED HIS MISTRESS TO VISIT HIM DURING LOCKDOWN.

 

He resigned from Sage rather than being sacked, but is still working for Government. Bastards.

 

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3 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

The man who gets all the projections wrong and twice broke HIS OWN RULES, WHEN

HE ALLOWED HIS MISTRESS TO VISIT HIM DURING LOCKDOWN.

 

He resigned from Sage rather than being sacked, but is still working for Government. Bastards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my opinion, Professor Neil Ferguson is a paid computer modelling forger of merit, blinding with science, to show whatever the PTB want.  Ferguson knew there was no danger and that is why he allowed his mistress to visit at least twice, who was married and living with her family in another part of London.

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2 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Government looks at vaccinating secondary school pupils to control Covid spread

Sage has asked for the UK vaccines authority to start working on a plan for teenage immunisation programme

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/government-looks-at-vaccinating-secondary-school-pupils-to-control-covid-spread-802282

 

Anybody who allows their child to be injected with the poison should be hung, drawn and quartered.

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I study psychology and neurology very seriously and that includes access I have to Soviet research. Few people realise how "real" psychosomatic illness is. Even the familiar panic attacks are often mistaken for actual heart attacks by medics. In 2012 in Sri Lanka, there was also a huge wave of symptoms pretty identical to Covid. At least 2000 hospitalised. It was finally put down to psychogenic mass hysteria. That is, physical symptoms of flu caused by hysteria. In the same way, symptoms such as rashes, temperature and internal pain can be caused by neurotic hysteria. I believe part of the Covid symptom phenomenon is real but a huge part of it is psychosomatic, hysterical reaction.

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