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11 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

It must have all been planned worldwide, way in advance.

 

It has been. They're sticking closely to the plan and with full speed. Now the "mutant strain" has arrived. Great excuse for the "vaccine" deaths and diseases. More fear porn. More shots. Introducing the multi-needle array. 

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Matt Hancock challenged over ‘mutant strain’

Recovery today challenged Health Secretary Matt Hancock to reveal the details of the strain of SARS COV-19 that he announced on Monday as a new and more infectious mutation, as evidence emerged that those claims may have been seriously misleading.

On Tuesday 15 December, Professor Nick Loman of the Covid-19 Genomics UK (COG UK) consortium, identified the new set of mutations as VUI – 202012/0. He confirmed that it is not new, as COG UK identified it in September, and there is no proof that it is more infectious. As Professor Sharon Peacock, COG Director, pointed out: “We are still dealing with very thin evidence at the moment about this variant.”

Dr Maria van Kerkhove, the technical lead of COVID-19 response and the head of emerging diseases and zoonosis unit at WHO, has also confirmed that the strain involved has been circulating for many months, though she referred to it as N501Y.

 

https://timeforrecovery.org/mutantstrain

 

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I think people should have a street Christmas party, of course weather permitting.

Surely if you are outside you can mingle? People already bought a whole turkey for now one or two members of the household....might as well have a jolly party outdoor. But then again, if all areas are in T4 then you can move around one place to another since we are all in it together. LOL

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2 hours ago, Liberty said:

it’s just the whole unfairness of it all! How dare they destroy peoples Xmas. We’ve all had a bad enough year as it is and to just take Xmas away well now they can do one. I’m not listening anymore. 

To be honest, there is no army at everyones door. People are willingly creating the reality 

If people wanted to celebrate christmas with their families they can

My wife and i have made it clear to our families that we want to and everyone is welcome to come over and we will pop over to theirs if invited

 

Trouble is they arent allowing themselves to celebrate

 

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If everyone ignores the "tier system" does it exist?

If everyone ignores "lockdown" is anyone locked down?

 

Some posh people in suits have made some shit up, they've told people they're in "tier 4" and made some graphs and charts with some words on. There is no "tier system" if people do what they want and live how they want to live.

 

Life is to be lived. We don't get long in these meat suits on this planet, so choose love and happiness, I have, it's great!

Go and spend Christmas with your loved ones. Hug your nan and your granddad. Enjoy the looks on your kid's faces as they open their presents. 

 

I know I'm preaching to the choir a bit in here but you know what I mean. We are free.  

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3 hours ago, Brad the lad said:

Why is everyone so upset with a tier shift? Just another day at the office for me. It only means something if your tied up in the matrix.

 

Tiers for fears!

My daughter...in London was coming home for Xmas. It will be her grandfather's last. Certainly with any sentience anyway due to his advanced dementia. And probably physically.  She's buying the whole thing...thinks it's safer for everyone if she stays there. She knows my view. Thinks I'm a conspiracy theory dick. With a few valid points.infrequently made. I told her to hole up in her house and pretend there's a zombie apocalypse...as that's what they're pretending is afoot. She nodded  .... got the crisps in. 

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3 hours ago, Liberty said:

Doxycycline is one antibiotic known for its photo sensitivity. It binds to calcium, magnesium and zinc so should not be taken with those. From what I’ve looked up it is often used in the treatment of malaria with quinine and other bacterial infections. Not to be given to pregnant women and children as prevents bones forming.  Antibiotics can make a virus worse and lower the white cell count. But if the body has pneumonia on top of it then would need antibiotics but generally makes a viral infection worse. Ivermectin is used in the treatment of worms and has nasty side effects too. Might be good for that part of the world for other things but not a virus.  My point is if people are unwell with a bacterial infection  that have been told they’ve got a virus and they take it and it works they’ll think this medication is great for the virus.  Indians are generally very clever though, even the poor ones. They have them doing mathematics at a young age that ours would struggle with. The ones I’ve met have a very holistic approach to medicine. But giving antibiotics out on this scale would lead to the gut microbiome being decimated and norovirus. So it’s not helping the population in my view. 

Ivermectin is getting excellent results

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1 hour ago, Punxsutawney said:

You know, I'm close to joining the Ziggy faction. I spent so many hours educating myself and trying to wake up others and I still feel the majority is in complete brain lockdown and continuously hypnotized by MSM propaganda. The other day I got mobbed at the supermarket by other customers when they realized I was a maskless heretic. A guy yelled at me "idiot, because of morons like you we have to go through this shit". I had some sympathy for him and his psychosis but actually I was like go get your shot and die or become an android vegetable or whatever.

It's just that I have no desire to live in Satan Klaus' post-reset society so I feel compelled to continue fighting in some way or other. 

 

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Just had a moment of inspiration and have written a new song for xmas. You will all know the tune.

 

 

Hey Boris Johnson you cunt what are you fucking like

I've always worn a mask and stayed away from those I don't like

If I wanted another bloody tier I would have bloody asked

So this P.C.R test and vaccine shite you can shove right up your arse

I've followed all your fucking rules and been furloughed twice

Boris Johnson you cunt what are you fucking like

 You've stuffed my bloody Christmas up it's enough to make you spu

But I'm not the only one pissed off, we've all had enough of you.

Hey Hancock you cunt what's your fucking plan

You're a wanker and a liar a pathetic excuse for a man

I can see right through your fucking lies

and you're not even very bright 

I'm sick of you on T.V talking all that shite

what's your fucking game man

 tell us what's really going on

Hancock you cunt what's your fucking plan   

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3 hours ago, Noctua said:

My god, we just escalated today.  The propaganda being spewed just make me think the lady doth protest too much. 

 

It reeks of desperation!

 

What are they panicking about?  Something is definitely afoot and I think it has them running scared.

 

Oddly enough, for the first time in months, I feel positive.  This huge push is a huge mistake.  Its an overstep.  Hopefully over a cliff.

 

And as for the the term tiers...

 

 

The levels in the risk hierarchy of control measures are, in order of decreasing effectiveness:

 

  • Elimination
  • Substitution
  • Engineering controls
  • Administrative controls
  • Personal protective equipment

Hierarchy of Control - 5 Key Pillars to Eliminate Risk (safeti.com)

 

It's Brexit, they want everyone only talking about Covid.

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59 minutes ago, zArk said:

To be honest, there is no army at everyones door. People are willingly creating the reality 

If people wanted to celebrate christmas with their families they can

My wife and i have made it clear to our families that we want to and everyone is welcome to come over and we will pop over to theirs if invited

 

Trouble is they arent allowing themselves to celebrate

 

True. And I’m hoping they will 

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